Best Kind of Protein Shake

Hey everyone!!!
Im 16 years old, 5'8' and a 142 lbs. I've been workin out ever since i was 12 years old. Recently, I've been tryin to put on some weight naturally. Damn it hard. :banghead: . Im pissed off cuz i spent all summer workin out tryin to get bigger for football season. Now, i'm considering taken protein shakes. Particularly whey protein. I've heard from the older football players from my H.S. that i should take creatine or weight gainer. I've never taken any kinda of performance drug (i wouldnt say protein is a drug). From wat i heard, weight gainer is just protein, but with a bigger dose and Creatine is something for like the serious guys. Im all new to this stuff. People say 100% Whey Protein from GNC is pretty good. Wat type of protein is good for a beginner like me? How big of a dose should i take? Wats the best brand or something? Please help.

weight gain is all sugar and fat, forget tht stuff its no good. Take whey it will help a little, but working hard in the weight room is what you really have to do.

whey protein ISOLATE is what you need to comsume. weight gainer is crap for your system. i believe that it is mainly corn starch.

work hard, maintain a proper sleep schedule, and you gotta eat well.

Best way to absorb protein is naturally through your food. Eat plenty of lean meat - skinless chicken and most seafood are particularly good.

Can I suggest you work on overall fitness before you do a lot of lifting? Lifting since the age of 12 and you're still only 16 can do bad things to your body. Wait until your nearly at the end of puberty before lifting a lot.

you can start lifting around 15, but 12 is way too early, but yes you should work on overall fitness along with lifting, i mean like aerobic stuff, but keep lifting as part of your "overall fitness" it is very important to include weight bearing exercises in your workout up untill at least the age of 30, after that is is purely optional, but still a good idea. Calcium alone will not build stronger bones, it will only do so along with weight bearing exercises. Lifting (and getting hit/hitting) causes tine fractures in your bones, and when your body repairs then it makes them even stronger then they were originally, as long as you give them the calcium they need. (This is also why martial artists tend to have incredibly strong bones, they are constantly hitting, so their bodys are constantly repairing/strengthening these tiny fractures.) But around the age of 30 this process stops, and however strong your bones are then is what you will have to work with for the rest of your life, and your bones will only get weaker, so you had better build then up as much as possible up untill that point.

Thanks guys. Should i consult my Dr. about taking protein first?

nope dont worry about it if your just taking protien, its the same stuff that is in food, just isolated, for creo etc yeah u prolly should

Thanks bro.

Can any of you guys give me a link to a place to buy protein? I'm lookin for good quality stuff. Not the crap that will get you sick.

Can any of you guys give me a link to a place to buy protein? I'm lookin for good quality stuff. Not the crap that will get you sick.

i dont know of anything that will get you sick. could you elaborate please? i am deadly serious.

bodybuilding.com seems to have great deals so i am told.

i get my supplies from GNC since i know the manager and all. 30% off! oh yeah.

thats kewl

why should u not start to work out until your 15? my parents asked my doctor and he just said keep it easy on the wrist since your wrists take longer to strengthen or something, so i wear those gloves that wraps arround a couple times... but i started a month after i turned 13 and have been going pretty heavy lifting... ive been doing it for ~ 1 year 8 1/2 months

ive been taking proteen for about a month an 1/2 and my bench has increased 15 lbs within that time but i havent gained any weight... im not sure if it is the proteen or i just reached the end of a plateau?? :screwy:

you can stunt your groth by lifting too early, even cause deformities ( ie one arm worked harder, groth not stunted evenly, one arw longer than other, etc) its just not necissary so i dont think its worth the risk. i started lifting at 15 and i have seen no problems, although i did probly lose about an inch, a little shorter than the rest of my fam, donegrowing at 16 but w/e 6'4 is tall enough i think anything more would just get in the way all of the time :p

my mom and my dad asked their doctors... they both said that it was just a mothers tail and that nothing indicates a stunt of growth from working out too early

it is possible, in some cases that weight lifting can stunt your growth. Researchers have shown there is a link between weight lifting & stunted growth. Lifting heavy weights could speed up the closing of growth plates before they had a chance to fully develop. By stopping the growth process prematurely, you stunt your growth.

-TeenHealthFX

Why Weightlifting Can Stunt Our Height


This interesting study was done to show the relation to slow and underdeveloped bone growth resulting from the mechanical stresses put on our bones. These stresses are from various forms of exercise and strength training such as moderate weightlifting - (bench presses, squats, etc.), and leg extension exercises which can damage our sensitive growth plates in our bones.


Biomechanics of Bone Growth
Correlations between Mechanical Stresses and Bone Growth in Normal Development Our initial approach was to investigate the relationship between mechanical stresses and strains in the normally growing bone. The model selected was the developing distal femur due to the dramatic curvature of the growth plate caused by significant variations in bone growth rates. A finite element analysis was generated to quantify the stresses for comparison to measured bone growth rates. The complex geometry of the distal femur was captured using micro-computed tomography as shown below. This analysis indicates a significant correlation between compressive mechanical stresses and slow bone growth rates, however it is impossible to infer any cause and effect from this study.




Growth Plate Mechanical Properties
The above finite element analysis models the cartilaginous growth plate tissue as a linear elastic material as a first approximation of its complex mechanical properties. Current investigations include combined experimental and computational studies to characterize the anisotropic poro-elastic tension/compression mechanical properties of the growth plate tissue. This characterization will allow study of the variations in fluid flow as well as stresses in the extracellular matrix during normal loading.


Bone Growth in Altered Mechanical Loading
Our current investigations involve the development of an in vivo experimental model of altered mechanical loading. A tibial osteotomy will alter knee joint loading in the growing rabbit. The effect on bone growth and chondrocyte morphometry will be measured and compared to estimates of mechanical parameters from a finite element analysis. The finite element model is based on Magnetic resonance images such as those shown in the figure (left) of a 6 wk. rabbit proximal tibia. Shown are four slices of the 25 slices used to create a three-dimensional model of the growth plate for finite element analysis (below). Although relatively flat, the proximal tibia growth plate has contours which are likely to create variations in stress and strain, and allow fluid to become trapped during rapid loading. For clarity, elements of surrounding bone are not displayed.




Growth Plate Microstructure
Several previous studies have shown correlations between bone growth rates and the volume or height of the hypertrophic chondrocyte. Suprisingly, our study did not find this correlation in the normally developing distal femur. Instead, the rapidly growing regions at the peaks of the growth plate (left) exhibited greater volumes of matrix for each chondrocyte. The slower growth in the central region (right) shows the typical tightly packed columnar arrangement. This artist's rendering of the growing distal femur indicates the possible variations in the local three-dimensional environments of chondrocytes in different regions of the growth plate. Variations in this microstructure could lead to dramatic differences in the transduction of mechanical signals by the chondrocytes.

-www.growtall.com




bottom line there is absloutly research linking stunted groth and weight lifting, it does not happen to everyone by any means, but it is a real possibility.

Is creatine worth it too?

depends on the person/their situation. define "worth it"

Is it worth taking.......is it better than protein?? Do u have to drink a lot of water?

yes, it gives much better gains than protien, all protien really does is allow you to get the most out of your regular workout/recover a little faster, where as creatine would allow you to work out longer. It rebuilds and allows you to reuse Adenosine Triphosphate, which is where you get most of your energy during anerobic workouts.

OoO.......

When taking creatine its good to drink plenty of water, if you dont it can cause cramps. And its recommended to intake 1 gram of protein per pound of body weight a day, including food and supplements.Also good to get it in many small meals throughout the day, even though my schedule doesnt really allow it.

Is 100% Whey from GNC good protein for a beginner taking protein. Cuz i dont wanna get the wrong stuff when im new to taking protein. Any recommendations for protein?

Which is better: soy or protein?