Eclipse GSX sux?!

ive been getting really close to buying a 97 gsx but the other day im talkign to this guy and he tells me that GSXes are sh!t. he said that they go after 150 thou miles and now im starting to think twice about buying one. someone please tell me different because i love this CAR!!!!

why do you love the car? if you lim,e it cuz its fast than any car taht you make fast will have problems over 150k. if you take care of it and dont drive it like a dumbass it will for more than 150k. dsms are cheap to make fast but they are heavy. the only other car i would consider getting other than my dsm is a crx. but it will never happen because my gsx is to0 sick

dont look at milage its about how hard you drive it how much you care for the car how much maintenance you put in to it. Ive seen GSX's with 220 k miles on them and still going strong. Its all about that and how hondas are reliable cars not really ive seen GSR messed up from racing in need of a new engine at 50k miles and all that. If you keep it as a dailiy driver and take care of it your shit will last for a hella long time.

^I agree, it all depends on how you take care of your car. Just do your normal maintenance and dont anything stupid to it.

heavy???? last time i checked dsms werent all that heavy

You want heavy, look at VR-4s. For awd cars, GSXs are extremely light.

4 thousand pound sports compact is damn heavy.

only thing heavy here are your bitches..

Come for a ride in my GSX. You wont remember what the word "unreliable" means.

You can break down and destroy a car within a thousand miles of it coming out of the factory. Or you can make it last over 200,000 miles with oil changes and belts... mileage isnt really a useable yardstick as to how well a car has been taken care of... all it means is that a car with more mileage has had greater opportunity to be misused as opposed to one with lower miles.

After 150,000, a valve job can't hurt. My valve seals were shot at 112K miles (oil collected in the spark plug area plus around the gasket and manifold)...I pick up my car today (YAY! no more driving the accord!) so I had a gasket and seal job done. Mechanic says its almost brand spankin new.

Remembers one thing... almost always, know where these opinions are coming from. People say a lot of stuff about a car, but have almost never owned that car, instead, remotely knew someone who had a friend whose brother's best bud's older brother's father uncle who had it with some minor problems...

well heres a story my dad bought a 88 chevy pickup. at 105 thous the cam lifters went bad, so my dad took it to a well known mechanic, the mechanic rebuilt the engen and put top of line mains, pistons, mollypiston rings. The truck was sold to my brother, and now it has 404 thous the body needs work, the trans never was rebuilt and still sifts excelent, the only thing that might make a differnce is this truck is mostly highway miles.

The Pont is that past history will make a differnce, I am eyeing a 98 gsx with 83 thous miles I plan on rebuilding when she goes caput if I get it.
cars are just like people, take good care of it, it will last along time and take of you including your pocket book thats my 2 cent

dude dsms are heavy compared to crx. seroiusly i wish they made more carbon fiber shit for our cars. horsepower is good but you can only get so much out of a 4banger before you start to blow shit up. so lighter for sport compacts is better. crx are lighter but hard to get good hp out of but thier weight compensates for their hp. an awd dsm that weight 2500-2800 pounds with about 400 hp. fuck man that would smoke alot of shit

crx's arent awd

if its what you like and really want get it!!do what makes you happy dont let someone spoil what you want by talking shit on it.i bet he wishes he had a 2g gsx!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!




MAINTENANCE IS THE MOST IMPORTANT THING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I bet ya alot of the dsm's are unrelyable came from the fast and furious movie. Where he uses to much nitrus and blows out his ¿¿¿floor board???

So now when most people think about eclipses they think about that.

yea i know a few people who will talk shit about them, but never owned one. cant wait till my BDAY. hopefully get a tsi or gsx. awd baby!!! :D to shut some people up over here.

i own a 2g gsx. and i know crxs arent awd. all im saying is they could have made the 2g eclipse A LOT lighter. i know for a fact that a crx door for example weights probably half of what my 2g door weights. i kno the body styles of the cars are different but still there is no excuse for how fucking heavy my door is (and other shit as well) and i think its smarter to lose weight than to gain hp. the reason is weight wont blow up anything like hp will. any car with lots of hp is gonn ahve problems

i can agree with you on them being heavy, but if we were to get into an accident we wont fly off as much as a crx would. they would go into orbit, how light they are. :D lol

My car stock with no spare tire and jack was 3350 with me in it. I weighed 180 at the time. So ~ 3170? Heavy for an import, good thing they make good power

yea good thing they make more power. i just hope they make some carbon fiber shit soon like fenders, rear hatch (that sucker has to weight a lot) and maby even quarterpannels.

Already out there ;)

yeah, how can you not know that they already make that stuff? you can put eclipse into ebay search and fenders pop up...more the likely Z3 ones, but CF are out there. Just gotta look

yea i kno there are fenders out there for like 500 bills... i woud probably pay 1000 bucks for a hatch. are there any cb hatchs out ther for a 2g??? importfan.com has the fenders

well maby not 1000...

im not even trying ot compare a honda to a dsm. totally different cars. iron block vs aluminum. ect. turbocharging a honda is like 3 grand and then to run more than liek 5 psi is like another 3 grand...

is good but you can only get so much out of a 4banger before you start to blow shit up.

Only because the law of averages exists...

plenty of 4 cylinders going stupid fast and not blowing up... 8.76 being a number I recall.

Ever hear of NOPI? they have cars on stock blocks doing 6sec 1/4 miles. They have some dsms making over 1000hp.

Yeah, so does Jon Shepherd, the fastest DSM in the world I think.

dsmmodder....do you just like making consecutive posts or what? pretty sure you could have just made that all one post instead of 3 short ones...

yeah just because it goes fast doesnt mean its gonna blow up. maybe if your doing stupid shit and going fast that will affect it, but as long as you take care of your car it will take care of you.

dude, any car can be reliable, its just how you drive it. Oh yeah! whats the weight of the GSXs? and weight distribution? all i know is that the GSXs arent heavy at all....but i forgot how much they weigh?!

There usually lacks facts in these kinds of threads. I'll address any issues someone has that makes them not want to drive/own a DSM. In my case, the benefits that a GSX has over a honda civic outweigh the downsides, which I won't try to hide.

I you ask any one about any sports car weather its a GSX or a skyline people say that they're unreliable because the fact is most people who get sports cars run them like sports cars and beat them, so they become unreliable because things break when you drive them hard, and not take care of them.

"Ever hear of NOPI? they have cars on stock blocks doing 6sec 1/4 miles. They have some dsms making over 1000hp." stock blocks doing 6 sec? thats bullshit. if they do it they are only doing it once before it blows up and they have the money to rebuild them. be reasonable here. more 4bangers blow up than run 6 sec on a stock block. and yes the benefits of owning a gsx are far greater than owning a honda. tahts why i have a gsx and a 86 honda accord which i get my groceries in. theres a lot more to racing than what you read in magazines or online. funny how the "6 sec" 4bangers dont say how much money its costing them to do 1 pass.

and yes i do like postin a few times in a row.

Nothing becomes "unreliable". If you drive hard as fck, BUT keep up regular maintenece and then some, and replace parts more often, your car will remain in perfect condition. Unreliability usually pretains straight from the factory. The "Delorean" DMC was unreliable. Doors wouldnt open, windows used to get stuck, and over heating problems plagued new owners with just a few thousand miles on the ode.

You drive a sports car like a nice polite college boy with a 4.0 GPA and a center parted hairstyle wearing a checked shirt and a tie and glasses engaged to Mary Jane, it'll obviously last you way longer than if you drive like Kevin at the races :ylsuper: .

Mine was 3350 with me in it and no spare/jack. Pretty heavy for an import, but ont terrible compared to old muscle cars.

If you had a Civic and a GSX each running the same low 1/4 mile with the same maintenance history and the Civic wasnt just stripped down, the Eclipse would be hands down more reliable. Then factor in the cost of making each car that fast. A civic just does't make sense for cheap speed.

They are running 6's on stock blocks. Like the celica it has its stock block. But it is bored over, stroked, and does have built internals.

Look at the top fuel dragsters, 500cubic inch engines. They run 4's but they have to replace things after every race. So of course the 4 bangers running 6's are also going to have to replace things after every race...and i dont think they have to be rebuilt as often. Most of the nopi people dont have all that much money.

It costs $10,000 a sec, to run a top fuel dragster.

and yes i do like postin a few times in a row.

Well if you don't stop you're not going to be posting at all...postwhoring is not allowed, and mods will enforce it.

You have a GSX bro, so I don't even understand what you're arguing about. DSMs run 12s cheaper than any other vehicle. They also have the potential to run sub-10s, as fast as you're willing to build them. There is a case to be made for old Mustang 5.0s being as cheap, maybe cheaper, but other than that, there is no competition.

what are we arguing about? bottom line is my dsm is pretty reliable. it pisses me off just like all my cars. a lot of shit rattle but that all can be fixes in a weekend. also losing weight is better than building hp but when it comes to fiber is better just to build hp so you get your moneys worth. at least for our dsms. also think if you got in an accidnet with like 3k in carbon fiber shit

Hi guys...
I was thinking of importing a GSX to Norway were I live. But I was thinking of having an automatic transmission, cause I'm sick n tired of changing gears all the time(probably sounds weird to you guys).
But when I told the guys at work about it with the automatic transmission they said I was stupid.(probably right too)
Never buy a sports car with automatic transmission they said. But I do understand them, but still I want that it that way. Now to the point...
How much difference is it actually with automatic than manual?(I dont know much about cars so don't judge me to hard)
They say there is a small delay with automatic than with manual, but I also heard many Mercedes and BMWs have automatics that shift gears faster than with manual.
Pls enlighten me so I can decide what to buy:)

You can compare the auto shifting to any non-50,000 car out there. It's the same as every automatic, except the expensive ones that shift fast. If you want one.. get it! Who cares what your coworkers say? It's not their car.

If you have questions that aren't answered in the sticky thread at the top, make a new thread instead of bringing back old ones.