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Fully prepped Civic vs fully prepped GTI


LostBoyScout
01-14-2001, 11:39 PM
Woudl you rather build up a VR6 GTI, or a Civic (B18C swap allowed)?

You could use JUN, Spoon, Mugen, or Toda parts to build up your B18C, or you could build up the VR6 with a low boost turbo, or any Schrick etc parts you like.. which would you choose?

Point of interest: I priced out the cost of doing a 5th gen Civic hatch with B18C fully NA built and a mkIII GTI VR6 with low boost turbo/SC setup, and they both ended up within a grand of each other.. and would run similar 1/4 mile times (around 14 flat)

carman
01-15-2001, 10:05 AM
I'd have to go with the GTI, I think the modded Civics are way too common :)

JD@af
01-30-2001, 09:35 PM
It probably comes down to what brand you like better. I am surprised that the Civic and GTI turned in similar performance for about the same amount of cash. I would imagine that with the same amounts of cash, you could get a lot more torque and probably en edge in horsepower as well from a VR6-powered GTI over a Civic, even with a B18C1.

But yes, I would definitely take the Civic.

LostBoyScout
01-31-2001, 12:22 AM
JD.. you'd probably be right if I didn't splurge on some ultra-expensive peices for the Civ, like a full JUN N/A package (stage III) :D

krisR33
02-05-2001, 12:33 AM
Splurge on the GTi VR6..All time torque monster VR6 with a 10 Psi EIP Stage 1 with Stage 2 Fueling system..That thing will make a tremendous amount of power,and be able to rip most H cars a new asshole..Just my choice!!

igor@af
02-05-2001, 08:12 AM
GTI, as carman has already noted, Civics are just too common.... I don't like common things. :D

GOD
02-11-2001, 11:08 PM
i gotta go with the civic with a b-18 swap . I like civics but if u put a b-18 in one i'll love one hehehe

VTEC V6
03-24-2001, 06:34 PM
what about an H22a swap that allowed :D

i would do that wit the civic and then turbo it

flylwsi
04-14-2001, 04:37 PM
id go vw...
they are so cool...
and yeah, the civic is overdone...
and the civic looks kinda entrylevel to me...
whereas the vw just looks badass...

not to put the civic down, but how many well modded gti's have you seen?
vs civics...
civics are a dime a dozen, and 3/4 of em are more show than go...
vw's are rarely like that
and i just love german shit
i used to have a 2dr jetta and it was quick for a 4cyl auto...
tell me how many 2dr jettas you have EVER seen... then tell me how many 2dr civics you have seen...
get what im sayin???


:licker:

Vr6racer
12-26-2003, 11:46 PM
Def VR6 man, A civic! are you kinding rice boy, A garret to4b turbo kit rods cams and pistons and that gti would be as nasty as a porsche 996 i garantee it man and plus 14 sec 1/4mile times that not right man i just have a mk3 gti with cams, rods, vavle springs, n je pistons and i rran a high 12 at english town and plus youd be a poser in the street racing secen with a civic anyway just like all the other civic kids and i know you dont wana be one of them so defently a gti

flylwsi
12-27-2003, 12:07 PM
did you also say that you're talking only 14 seconds with a built b18 civic? right.
or the gti with a boosted vr6? only 14 seconds for these cars?
what are you doing, putting auto trannies in them?

you'll easily be in the 13's with both cars.

and i can't believe that this thread, over 2 years old, just got resurrected. dayum.

Twyzz
12-27-2003, 02:48 PM
hmm with jun internals and a turbo, as much as i hate to say it the civic should win. And i hate civics...

flylwsi
12-27-2003, 03:10 PM
since he said it would be NA... oh yeah... that...

jun internals? why jun?
just b/c you like the name?
what's wrong with toda's cams and headwork? or JE pistons? get off the JDM trip and go for what works best... not what sounds best.

the civic should win... why?
what's your reasoning? do you know how fast the vr6 is with a turbo on it?
what's your reasoning for why it'd win?

Ground Rat
12-27-2003, 06:59 PM
IMO the VR6s look better, are more unique, are better engineered, and will require less work to go fast. Shoot for at least 13s, anything slower than that isn't really fast. Anyway, the VR6 can handle a decent amount of extra boost on the stock internals. Also, why build a n/a 4 banger? You won't go anywhere fast unless you have an ass load of money.

Twyzz
12-28-2003, 12:52 AM
since he said it would be NA... oh yeah... that...

jun internals? why jun?
just b/c you like the name?
what's wrong with toda's cams and headwork? or JE pistons? get off the JDM trip and go for what works best... not what sounds best.

the civic should win... why?
what's your reasoning? do you know how fast the vr6 is with a turbo on it?
what's your reasoning for why it'd win?

Way to flip a nut over nothing. I like JUN. My friend has Jun internals on his H22 perlude and that thing screams. I didn't see the n/a part, fucking sue me.. in that case spoon is probably the best option, or a combonation. reasoning for why'd it win, civics are light as hell and i think that you'd get quicker times with it for the money invested. Geez fucking shoot me for giving what i would think was best. You need to chill.

flylwsi
12-29-2003, 12:35 PM
fucking sue you?
you didn't back up anything you said.
all i asked was why that company?
geez.
soo.... all those question marks, and you've got no real reply.
spend the same money, turbo a vr6 golf, and turbo a b18 swapped civic. you're going to be faster in the golf if you strip it. end of story.
i need to chill? you don't know anything about the power potential of the vr6 or the vw cars in general...
check out some info on it, find out how many stock body vw's are running 10s and 9s and then come back and tell me they're not going to be faster...

Polygon
12-29-2003, 02:51 PM
GTI, as carman has already noted, Civics are just too common.... I don't like common things. :D

I'll second that.

MexSiR
12-30-2003, 11:48 PM
I would probably go with the vr6 also...

crayzayjay
01-02-2004, 10:53 AM
Are you guys f*cking kidding me????

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