Newbie car dilemma

Hi ,I'm new to this forum and I'm somewhat stuck in a dilemma in buying a new car in August '05. It's kinda a bit early to ask, but I'd prefer to decide early and research it thoroughly then choose not too long before I buy the car. Oh, and I may sound quite a bit spoiled but this is a deal my parents are willing to make for getting accepted into uni.
I live in Ontario, and I have 6k to work with (planning for a 240sx), but when I brought the idea of buying a used car to my parents, they gave me a deal. The deal was, I can buy whatever car I wanted with my own money but they won't help with anything (such as insurance, repairs, maintenance, etc) but, if I let them buy the car (my car of choice), they will take care of insurance, certain repairs, maintenance, and I will pay them back in monthly installments (something like a finance with 0% interest). If I let my parents pay, the limitations are that the car has to be a brand new model and so far they havn't given me a suggestion the most that they are willing to invest, but they keep pushing me into getting a Tiburon.
Now regardless of the car I get, I am planning to drift occasionally (if I can find a place to do it). I do somewhat do lowspeed e-brake drifts with my elantra (usually 60-80km/h but even then I don't think with my driving ability is considered a drift, prolly just some fishtail :/ or a powerslide). Since I'm planning to drift, I'd like to know some suggestions on the newer cars, since I've already decided on the 240sx if I buy. From what I have learned, MR's and FR's are ideal at drifting, and seeing what cars Ontario has to offer, nothing fits witin the pricerange. I guess that means I'm going to have to invest a bit into changing that. And even though they are willing to invest in a car as expencive as the Tiburon, I don't think I'd drift in it, as it is quite possible for me to crash, and fixing a Tiburon is probably way out of my price range. I have crashed my elantra a few times, nothing serious though, mostly curb and garbage. Anyways, if you don't mind, please suggest a few possible cars that are under let's say... 25k (enormous amount but can't really overule the possibility of a tiburon) and an estimate on the price to make it more ideal to drift with.
Thanks and Sorry for the trouble (especially since my post is so large)

One question: Are you buying this car as a drift car or daily driver?

Well, I plan to use the car as a daily driver but, I'd like to drift in it when I have some spare time on my hands (if I'm lucky enough to find a place to drift).

Don't bother with drifting especially if its going to be a new car(and given your price range, almost certainly an FF).

get a miata..light and oyu can do a 13b swap or turbo it

Or take it to Monster Miata for the Ford 5.0L swap. :biggrin:

http://www.scottkeen.com/miata/images/megamonster1.jpg

WOW, I had no idea the Miata was FR, thanks so much. Anyways, I've read the forums a bit, and I see that it may be possible to switch FR to 4WD. Is it possible to make an FF into FR?

Anything can be done with $$..

get a miata..light and oyu can do a 13b swap or turbo it

If you didin't read his post, he's from canada, meaning 25k is in canadian. A new miata runs for 25k+ american.

lol i didn't read his post..

any idea how much it would cost to switch an FF to FR???
yea the miata is a bit out of my pricerange, I guess I can work a bit more to compensate for it though

The cost to switch from ff to fr?
Well, for one thing, its not like it hasnt been done before, theres the Focus rs8, a ford focus with a rwd v8 (a stroked 4.6 i think),i saw a rallye lookalike one at IAS east.

Focus RS8
http://www.ultimatecarpage.com/large/1796-1.jpg
http://www.ultimatecarpage.com/large/1796-6.jpg

Heres a sample of what the conversion would cost for a V8 focus such as this (gotten from http://www.ford-v8-focus.com/):
Q: How much would it cost for JD Motorsports to build and furnish everything?
A: If we furnish used car, new motor, new transmission- 5 speed or automatic, front & rear disc brakes, 8.8 mustang rear, the Kugel kit and do the installation the price will be $30,000.00 US . This does not include optional: leather interior, wheels, tires, ground fx body kit etc.

for your reference, 30k us is approx. $39,400 canadian.
This with the price of a new focus (about 14k) brings to a grand total of 44K or 58k canadian.

In my opinion, thats just not worth it.

I'm not sure of what special cars you get in canada that are not availiable in the us but maybe you should look elsewhere. Basically, if you want fr your options are basically going to be either the miata, mustang, some big/lux cars (crown vic, some bmws, mercs, lexus, etc), or trucks. Most of the sporty/sports car that are fr are older cars since they were phased out b/c ff is less expensive to produce.

Oh, and sorry wrinting a novel.

Whats awesome is how the Focus has the "hole" in the rear to fit in a differential... Pure Rallye sytlez, yo.

You can buy WRC stuff from Ford Racing now, bodykits, wheels, whatever. :bigthumbs:

don't they have an integra converted to rwd thats competing in formula d? they said its difficult to drift because the original set up was ff and by having the power coming out of the rear it upsets the balance...something like that...

i would have to agree w/ some on this forum if you get a USED miata it won't cost you that much for the earlier gens maybe (2-7k i got my 97 for 7k). plus there are TONS of parts for the miata

whoa thats way too expencive then, would the price be that high for switching an FF into AWD?

FF to FR? Geeeezus... just buy a freaking 240sx or an AE86 or something cheap! Tiburon? Ugh...! As for a new car... there are not any FR's that are cheap (not sure on your budget) and why would you wanna bang up a perfectly new car trying to learn how to drift...? Buy a beater.... then you can graduate to whatever brand spanking new car your parents can afford to buy (you snot nosed brat! JK! LoL).


PS-FORD SUCKS!!!!!!

Even if my parents are the ones who buy it, I am still the one paying off the 0% finance. So in other words, I'm buying the car. It's just the dealership would probably increase the price if I bought it.

and I did say that if there was no other choice, I would just buy a 240sx (if I can find one anyways). Seems to me repairing/upgrading a 240sx is cheaper then buying a new car altogether.

still one year away maybe by that time you will want something else...i just say save your money and cross that bridge when you come to it

i cant read any of this without shaking my head. for one thing, please dont talk about "switching" drive types (like ur FF to FR or AWD), this isnt lego... u cant just click and "switch" it doesnt work that way. and no, gran turismo is NOT tuning experience.

some people may disagree with me, but a tiburon is not a respectable sports car, nothing from korea is. you are obviously a sport compact/import guy... why do your parents want you to get a new car? tell them this, the moment a car is driven 1 mile and is no longer new, it depreciates heavily, depending on car i would say 10-25%... which means u wont be seeing much of your money back...

i dont actually have a suggestion for what you should buy, i dont live in america and am not completely informed about what cars u have and dont have.... i know a lot but not all. but i will say this... u may be an import/ sport compact fan ( i am 2), but with little money and those conditions by your parents, the best way for you to get a car you can tune and learn to drive better in would definately be a cheap RWD domestic. trust me, you are 15, you will sell it when your 18 and get whatever you want and that will be a mad ride but for now with ur budget and ur parents willing to support you only if you buy a new car, the only decent thing you could get would be domestic. think about it.

actually I am 18 now and I live in Canada, but thanks for the tip. Canada has a couple less car models then the States. As for domestic, I'm not really too sure about them. I've never actually looked any up, but my driving school did give me a 5k cheque which can be cashed if I buy a Ford car.
I think to my best interest, decling my parents offer would be the best solution. Since nothing new comes cheap anyways.