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carbed or injected?


burly94gt
08-22-2004, 11:22 PM
im undecided now, carbed or injected? how efficient is carbed to injected for everyday driving. and i know that there are two parts to the fuel injected intakes(upper and lower) but how many pieces are there to the carbed, from intake to air filter? can some one please educate me? also i would need help choosing a size carb. how would a 650cfm compare to lets say a performer upper lower. sorry if youd dont understand some of my questions but carbed is a whole nother world to me.. :confused:

wildstringer
08-24-2004, 10:28 PM
pretty much thers the air cleaner ,carb, and the intake. couple things to think about are do you have to worry about emmisions . will your heads still work with carb and as far as cfm's of the carb that depends on the rest of the engine. too much and its just a waste of fuel too little and you might as well have a milk jug on top of the intake and gravity feed the fuel in LOL. Carbs are much simpler . no computer some vac lines and some wires thats about it .

burly94gt
08-24-2004, 10:43 PM
well down here in florida we dont have squat for emision laws so i dont think i have too much to worry about there...is carbed reliable enough for evveryday driving?

351wStang
08-25-2004, 11:39 AM
Yes if properly tuned.

boosted331
08-25-2004, 03:54 PM
well down here in florida we dont have squat for emision laws so i dont think i have too much to worry about there...is carbed reliable enough for evveryday driving?

Yes, but if you have fuel injection why bother changing?

duplox
08-25-2004, 06:49 PM
Carbs are cooler. Nothin like a spider intake with a carb on top. Especially in a 94gt. Its different than what most others have, kinda has a nostalgia thing goin for it. I personally run EFI because I don't think a blow thru turbo is a good system for me.

burly94gt
08-25-2004, 11:05 PM
why change?... cuz with the plans that i have goin for now id ehave to change out everything to begin w/ (cai,mas,tb,upper,lower,injectors,intake elbow) its just so darn expensive and waffle house just doesnt pay that well...hah, at all. if i did swap to carb, i would ahve to get rid of my computer right?? correct me if im wrong or retarded. and now im really confused, if i am right and i do have to get rid of my computer, how will my tranny konw when to shift considering its electronically controlled by my computer...guys i need help

fordforlife
08-26-2004, 04:17 PM
i take it you have an AOD tranny.....automatic overdrive....i dont think you have a place for the kickdown bar....you might have to get a 5 speed or earlier tranny....as far as computer, im not sure if it controls your spark or not. If it doesnt, you can get rid of it and your wiring harness (as far as the unnecesary stuff goes) if it does control it, i know you can remove it and get what they call a brain box, which is what cars used when they had carbs. If you do that, you have to change distributors, which you might have to do anyways to run the vacuum advance to your carb. (on the pulling wire harness, make sure you dont pull the stuff you still need, like ignition wires and your gauges, etc) You have to change your fuel lines, i dont know about the ones coming from your tank, but when they get to your engine bay, youll have to run a rubber (one meant for gas) hose to the carb, (also get rid of the return line) You'll have to get rid of your high pressure fuel pump, its meant for FI. You might have to rig something up with your tank when you remove your fuel pump, not sure there. You'll need a low pressure carb fuel pump, and you'll have to run that to your ignition or a toggle switch, and then reuse your enertia switch. On the carb fuel pump, put it as close to your tank as possible, since they push better than they suck, or so ive heard. You might also need a fuel pressure regulator, im not sure there either, not yours though, one meant for carbs also. You can either rig up something where you reuse your air intake going to your fender, or just run a reg breather, up to you.

Basically, fuel injected gets better gas mileage and is more reliable until it breaks down. If a carb'd car breaks down, you can usually fix it on the side on highway, where as FI you usually cant. But like 351wstang said, if you keep the carb tuned and clean, its very reliable also. I have one on my bronco. One other thing to consider is the "wow" factor, like what duplox was talking about.

I personally think the deciding factor is the tranny. You can get an edelbrock or gt-40 or whatever upper and lower intake if you need to beef it up. A chip for your comp if you wanna go that way. Your stock intake will take some changes, what all are you wanting to do to it anyways??

Hope i helped!

fordforlife
08-26-2004, 04:23 PM
by the way, the brain box i was talking about might not be enough if you do major changes, you might have to spend more money and get an msd igntion control module, just depends on mods your doin. But these are a good idea if you can afford it anyways. You'll have to do some research there.

Rod&Custom
08-26-2004, 05:45 PM
I could talk forever, but simply put, don't do it. It is easy enough to put an EFI setup in a carbed car(theres nothing there really) but it is a whole different story putting carb on a meant-to-be fuel injected car.

fordforlife
08-26-2004, 05:57 PM
rod&custom when putting a FI in a carb vehicle, do you need to make a new wiring harness, or can u just put the comp in and run something to the igntion, and put your fuel pump and lines, etc.

boosted331
08-26-2004, 06:48 PM
Carbs are cooler. Nothin like a spider intake with a carb on top. Especially in a 94gt. Its different than what most others have, kinda has a nostalgia thing goin for it. I personally run EFI because I don't think a blow thru turbo is a good system for me.

FYI a spider or spyder intake is the word used for when somebody takes a single plane carb intake, puts on a 90 degree TB elbow, and welds some fuel rails on it. I don't know who actually started using the phraise spyder, but it was a few years ago.

Burly94GT: Have you tallied up the costs of switch to a carb setup? You need a different fuel pump since carbs run at much lower fuel pressures, a different FPR, new fuel rails for the carb, the new intake, and lots of other little shit that nickle and dimes you to death. Assuming you are staying naturally aspirated it is not going to save you a whole lot of cash to switch to carb vs. buying a new intake, getting some cheap and readily available injectors (shit high imp. 42 pounders are easy to find for cheap) spending a couple hundred on a new maf if you want, along with 10 bucks to make a PVC CAI.

burly94gt
08-27-2004, 01:51 PM
well this is why i asked you guys what i should do... i wasnt aware of all the changes i would have to make to go carbd. i think im gonna stick to FI. im plannen on heads cam intakes, maybe a small shot but thats just a side thought for now. i appreciate it guys, now all i need to figure out is what i want to do w/ my tranny

duplox
08-27-2004, 02:05 PM
Hmm, I always heard of a 'spider intake' simply as an intake that, well, looks like a spider. Pretty much any Ford single plane. SBCs have the runners siamesed together, so it doesnt really work.
http://www.madhatterracing.com/funnelwebs/funnel4vlowres.JPG
Kinda like that.

burly94gt
08-27-2004, 10:47 PM
what my dream set up right now is afr 165's, edel. perf. intakes, w/ an FTI custom cam....do you guys think that this tranny will be able to stand up to this and does it seem like a pretty good price?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=7918350645&category=33727

burly94gt
08-31-2004, 12:07 PM
bump!!

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