Skylines Drifting

I've seen videos of Skylines drifting. From what I understand Skylines are awd cars. Do they make a 2wd Skyline for it or do they drift with the awd Skylines?

I think most (or all other) models of skyline besides GTR are RWD.

You can still drift an awd vehicle though.

Wouldn't it be harder to drift with a AWD car?

much harder.

think about it. in a RWD car, the power to the rear wheels causes the rear to oversteer and step out.

in an FF, you yank the e-brake causing the back wheels to lock up and step out.

in an AWD car...all 4 wheels are powered, so the rears can't very easily over-power the fronts...and e-braking doesn't really do much either...

it's possible, but takes a bit more skill.

and yes, GT-R's are the only AWD Skylines. anything below that is RWD.

Well thank you both for the info. Very informative.

Theres only one drifting technique for 4wd cars. Full throttle. The less you gas the worse the understeer gets. Scary concept. But skyline did make a Rear Wheel skyline. Its the GT-S Type M or something like that. Im pretty sure there s a newer year.

and yes, GT-R's are the only AWD Skylines. anything below that is RWD.

R32 GTS4 - below a GT-R but is an awd Skyline.

Skylines are a tricky thing though, theyre not like other full time awd like a evo or impreza; their awd system only works in low grip situations and in lower gears.

R32 GTS4 - below a GT-R but is an awd Skyline. Yes We've covered that.


Skylines are a tricky thing though, theyre not like other full time awd like a evo or impreza; their awd system only works in low grip situations and in lower gears.


Do you have a Skyline? Have you driven one? How do you know they're all that tricky? Don't mean to give you a hard time, just tired of 'fanboi's' who think they know all from reading about them in magazines.

And, if you say the Attessa AWD system only works in low grip situations and lower gears unlike EVO's and WRX's which are full time AWD. Wouldn't drifting be considered low grip situations? And are usually done in lower gears... thus, it'd always be in AWD mode during drifting?

So, as far as I see it... your point is moot.

Yes We've covered that.





Do you have a Skyline? Have you driven one? How do you know they're all that tricky? Don't mean to give you a hard time, just tired of 'fanboi's' who think they know all from reading about them in magazines.

And, if you say the Attessa AWD system only works in low grip situations and lower gears unlike EVO's and WRX's which are full time AWD. Wouldn't drifting be considered low grip situations? And are usually done in lower gears... thus, it'd always be in AWD mode during drifting?

So, as far as I see it... your point is moot.

I guess you misunderstood the post. What i meant by "tricky" is understanding the concept behind the awd system; i was trying to explain its differences from other, more comman awd systems. To answer your questions, no i dont have a skyline, and the closest thing to driving in one was riding in one. Besides, ever since the rotary bug bit me, i've been off the skyline's cock. But call me fanboy or whatever you want, doesnt bother me.

Besides, ever since the rotary bug bit me, i've been off the skyline's cock.


Which rotary car you got? and is Mazda the only company with rotary engines?

I own an 87 Mazda RX-7. To my current knowledge, mazda is the only company utilizing the rotary engine, however, other companies have experimented using them in the past.

I do recall one of GM's concept cars back in the 50's useing rotary engines. It was a cancept for the firebird III. I belive that was the name of it. Looked really spacemanish. Strap a few rockets to that thing and send it to space, thats how it looked and thats the look they were going for. I'm gonna try to find a pic of it :D

http://speed.supercars.net/IMG?viewPic=y&source=car&id=2540&i=0&p=1956_gm_firebird_ii-1.jpg&y=1958&m=GM&o=Firebird%20III%20Concept


http://www.aaca.org/siraaca/images/firebi2.jpg


http://www.aaca.org/siraaca/images/firebi19.jpg

Wow, i dont think any company on earth could actually put that into production even if they tried lol.

GM has 3 diffrent versions of that car. On the last car they made of them both the driver and the passanger can drive it, using a joy stick in the center console.

In a AWD GTR, the special AWD system is going to make it harder to drift in it. Even if you have enough power to spin all 4 wheels in a AWD GTR, its still going to be hard.

I would like to get my hands on a R34. Unless I hit the lottary I wont. :(

I think most (or all other) models of skyline besides GTR are RWD.

You can still drift an awd vehicle though.

yes r34 gt-ts are atleast. In the gtr's case the Attesa system comes into play!

In a AWD GTR, the special AWD system is going to make it harder to drift in it. Even if you have enough power to spin all 4 wheels in a AWD GTR, its still going to be hard.

Thats what you call breaking parts when u spin all four wheels that means youve crackd something...

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I do recall one of GM's concept cars back in the 50's useing rotary engines. It was a cancept for the firebird III. I belive that was the name of it. Looked really spacemanish. Strap a few rockets to that thing and send it to space, thats how it looked and thats the look they were going for. I'm gonna try to find a pic of it :D


GM Bought the rights to the rotary way back then.. never could use it to make power and be fuel effecient at all... so being the smart guys the japs are at re-engineering things to make them better, GM sold Mazda the rotary design and they tinkered with it and made it better.... to other standards tho the modern rotary really isn't that fuel effecient, especially for its displacement. BUt it makes decent power when done up right--what car doesn't tho.

I also believe Datsun had a rotary.

Thats what GM said when I saw a show on speed channel about there concepts and rare cars. Thats how I found out about the FirebirdIII

Most skylines are 4wd, the ER32 is rwd...
and actually.. even though its 4wd, its a good drift car, its got lots of power so the back kicks out really easily, -power to rear- is just a a tiny bit of methods to make the rear kick out, you can make it kick out on a 4wd by making a feint motion as well, skylines will still drift with its FRness and steer through with its FFness, so AWD has an advantage over FR drifts by giving more drift control, even though its harder to master...

Sounds like a challenge. I'm up for a good challenge. But the ultimete challlenge is getting my hands on a Skyline

As much as I hate to say it the best drift car now is the srt-10 comp coupe it OWNS!

That is sarcasm, right? LoL

No look at the standings...

HuH?

Jeeez. The SRT-10 is getting into everything. I was watching speed channel. They got them in Rally races. Whats next for them, the 24 Le Mans?? LOL

They are in le mans ???? :eek7: (team orica) :eek7: U mean whats next rally dont you not gt class they are already in that.

I knew they were in Rally races, but are they in the Le Mans??

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HAVE FUN~

Don't I feel like a retart. I thought it said SRT-4. Gah I feel stupid. Weres my dunce cap. But seriously the viper is a good drift car. Wow, who'd da thunk. They are an RWD.

Im sure as hell there will be some srt-4's in light series with the rsx,is 300 etc or they will be some in the scca.

Go figure. Do you have any videos of the SRT-10 drifting?

No lol only the srt-10 :grinno:

Skylines come three different ways.

GTS non turbo usually a rb20 or rb25
GTS~T meens turbo and same engines
GT~R if you dont know ya betta aks somebody

The GR~R is a awd system that can be disingaged or completely removed. Its the cheepest way to drift with the least amount of mods.

A r32 cost lest than 10g here and only needs the front disingaged to drift like a fool. The GTS T M is a ready to go with the rb25 and bigger turbo its rwd and packs a punch.

I for the life of me cant see what the facination is with the GTR I meen like 12 years ago nobody state side new what it was and wasnt willing to pay the 20g plus rego. Yes Motorx aint done nothin special folks any one of us could have done the same thing. For that kind of money I could think of a few cars more worth while.

And yes Ive drove a few and tuned a few and they still dont turn my crank

Dont the Gtr spec M have more luxury features. They dont look as hardcore as a bonestock V spec.

Well I think they are nice cars. But you can get a Skyline for less then 10gs. Get the Infiniti G35. There is your skyline. I went to the nissan page for Japan and the G35 looks like the new Skylines. And I want to see a vid of the SRT-10 drifting, please.

Shit... for some reason I was thinking you guys were talking about the SRT-4... not the SRT-10! Duh! :screwy: I was like WTF? My misunderstanding.... sorry. But I still hate those cars! :iceslolan

Well I think they are nice cars. But you can get a Skyline for less then 10gs. Get the Infiniti G35. There is your skyline. I went to the nissan page for Japan and the G35 looks like the new Skylines. And I want to see a vid of the SRT-10 drifting, please.

Im tryn to find 1 give me a sec.

Shit... for some reason I was thinking you guys were talking about the SRT-4... not the SRT-10! Duh! :screwy: I was like WTF? My misunderstanding.... sorry. But I still hate those cars! :iceslolan

Thats what I thought to, until I went back and read it. No big rush with the vid, but thanks in advance.

No look at the standings...

Formula D. Hubinette. SRT-10. Google.

*cough* *cough* http://www.drifting.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?forumid=36 :-D

Since someone already filled in the information on the Skyline GTR and the whole Attesa-est thing.

So to answer on the rotary question yes companies other than GM tried to and some successfully did, at least in their own country, produced rotary engines. For example in the 1960s and into the 70s both not only was GM tinkering around with the rotary for its Corvette concept, which did not work since each time they revved the 6 rotary engine a rotary busted out of the ceil and hood, but Volkswagen as well made rotary powered beatles which some people today mod to extreme drag racers.

Also a formal government owned car company in the former Soviet Union called Lada. If you have not heard of this company, people usually relate their cars second cheapest only to the Yugo, but thats only because of their older 110 models. Anywho, they have been tinkering with rotaries since 1978, they have that information and more at this website: http://cp_www.tripod.com/rotary/pg07.htm.

You know Lada made a performance rotary in 1998 that produced 240hp out of two rotaries, and N/A too. And that is like 2-3 years before Mazda ever announced their Renesis. It would be cool if we heard more info on those rotaries to see if Lada is a viable option for them. Even though it does not seem clear whether the site stated as a rumor or fact.

Thanx for the great sites.