So...
zebrathree
08-19-2004, 09:41 PM
What's everyones opinions on oppressive and fascist dictatorships?
Hyatus
08-19-2004, 09:58 PM
they work but only when the leader has no flaws and does nothing wrong. So yea they will never work.
zebrathree
08-19-2004, 09:59 PM
What about in regards to, say, an internet message board?
Thoughts?
Thoughts?
dayna240sx
08-19-2004, 10:06 PM
who are we talking about and I will give my opinion...
PM me if you must
PM me if you must
zebrathree
08-19-2004, 10:10 PM
Whoever said I was talking about AF? ;) ;)
Hyatus
08-19-2004, 10:12 PM
we say and post what the mods like and want? and our own thoughts have to be sensored first? so in effect we can say what ever we want, just as long as its not what they want?
These are all in question form dont ban me!!!(looks over shoulder for mod, then runs)
These are all in question form dont ban me!!!(looks over shoulder for mod, then runs)
zebrathree
08-19-2004, 10:14 PM
So what you're asking is, we can have freedom of speech, as long as it's along the lines of what those in power want us to think?
pind
08-19-2004, 10:15 PM
all animals are created equal, but some are more equal than others. Remember that line?
Hyatus
08-19-2004, 10:16 PM
AHHHHHHHHHH this was just pm'ed to me with a note reading "Shut up if u know whats good for you"
It was sent anonomously!!! is that possible!!!
http://files.automotiveforums.com/gallery/uploads/82015/baning1.jpg
j/k
It was sent anonomously!!! is that possible!!!
http://files.automotiveforums.com/gallery/uploads/82015/baning1.jpg
j/k
zebrathree
08-19-2004, 10:18 PM
all animals are created equal, but some are more equal than others. Remember that line?
It's a version of that old anti communist slogan, "In Communism, everyone is equal. Some, however, are more equal than others."
I believe that to be true of some message boards.
It's a version of that old anti communist slogan, "In Communism, everyone is equal. Some, however, are more equal than others."
I believe that to be true of some message boards.
zebrathree
08-19-2004, 10:32 PM
So how could the general population of a message board make a stand against the oppressiveness?
Comments, please.
Comments, please.
taranaki
08-19-2004, 10:38 PM
Depends I guess.Those who support, say, the oppresive dictatorship currently in place in Iraq would argue that it is necessaray and desirable for the safety and stability of the wider community.They would argue that without large numbers of snarly men waving guns around and offing the occasional stroppy civilian,anarchy and chaos would be the norm.
No doubt if the population of Iraq settles down and does as it's told,the snarly guys with guns will relax a little and might even share some of their chocolate with the locals.
No doubt if the population of Iraq settles down and does as it's told,the snarly guys with guns will relax a little and might even share some of their chocolate with the locals.
zebrathree
08-19-2004, 10:40 PM
Perhaps if the order were reversed, with the soldiers giving out the chocolate first, then we might see some real and profound change.
dayna240sx
08-19-2004, 10:45 PM
you are such a genius z3
zebrathree
08-19-2004, 10:49 PM
What I find interesting is that as soon as I mention "message board" (and not a specific one), people immediatly think of AF.
How could this be? I'm shocked.
How could this be? I'm shocked.
taranaki
08-19-2004, 10:57 PM
Iraq has a message board called AF?
zebrathree
08-19-2004, 10:59 PM
Arabia Forums.
Chavez408
08-19-2004, 11:02 PM
this thread topic is waaaaaaaaaay to advance for moi! too many big words in here! *steps away*
You may now continue.
You may now continue.
zebrathree
08-19-2004, 11:07 PM
Should Mods even be allowed banning rights? In all other forums I go to, ADMIN have ban rights, not mods.
Thoughts? Comments?
Thoughts? Comments?
Chavez408
08-19-2004, 11:11 PM
then what do the mods do?
zebrathree
08-19-2004, 11:12 PM
Edit, delete, report.
Chavez408
08-19-2004, 11:15 PM
ah, gotcha! so are we saying that OUR mods are gettin' out of control or what?
*im trying to catch on to this, i just came from football practice and I have a huge headache, so play along with me :D*
*im trying to catch on to this, i just came from football practice and I have a huge headache, so play along with me :D*
zebrathree
08-19-2004, 11:18 PM
Am I saying that? That's something you'd need to decide for yourself, since my comments are very subjective.
Jimster
08-19-2004, 11:24 PM
Should Mods even be allowed banning rights? In all other forums I go to, ADMIN have ban rights, not mods.
Thoughts? Comments?
Ever seen Igor around the place? thought not.....
Arabia Forums rock......
Thoughts? Comments?
Ever seen Igor around the place? thought not.....
Arabia Forums rock......
zebrathree
08-19-2004, 11:27 PM
Make more admin. Have an election type thing, where the people who actually MAKE THE FORUMS decide who should be admins. Make it the candidates have to be mods. This way, only the GOOD people become admin.
xviciousx
08-19-2004, 11:31 PM
The ruling class is there for a reason. Humans need to be controlled by humans. We are not able to sustain society without a higher power. We all need a certain level of control that can only be granted by the ruling class. Therefore, though sometimes irritating, we'd be lost in a horrible state of anarchy without some form of control, dictatorship or no. :2cents:
zebrathree
08-19-2004, 11:33 PM
I never said that there should be anarchy.
I am mearly after a discussion about dictatorships.
I am mearly after a discussion about dictatorships.
Hyatus
08-19-2004, 11:44 PM
Make more admin. Have an election type thing, where the people who actually MAKE THE FORUMS decide who should be admins. Make it the candidates have to be mods. This way, only the GOOD people become admin.
with saying this then, you might imply that one or more of the leaders of the opressive dictatorship may be corrupt, and or just plain bad and not liked?
with saying this then, you might imply that one or more of the leaders of the opressive dictatorship may be corrupt, and or just plain bad and not liked?
matada
08-19-2004, 11:55 PM
I never said that there should be anarchy.
I am mearly after a discussion about dictatorships.
Which means this belongs in either the Political Forum, or at best website discussion.
Since it is pertaining to opression and such, I will move it to the Political.
I am mearly after a discussion about dictatorships.
Which means this belongs in either the Political Forum, or at best website discussion.
Since it is pertaining to opression and such, I will move it to the Political.
carrrnuttt
08-20-2004, 12:54 AM
zebrathree: whatever "intelligence agency" informed you that the "Arabia Forums" is open to becoming a democracy, needs to get its head out of its ass.
Just like how a Police Officer (at least in my neck of the woods) can't give any tickets to anyone involved in an accident that occurs in a private street or parking lot, neither does whatever you deem as "justice" apply in here, except for maybe a sense of community, and whatever the administrator, and his chosen moderators deem appropriate within the bounds of decency.
Now if you think the community is becoming too overpowered by moderators who are over-stepping their bounds (from YOUR point-of-view), then PM the administrator.
See the only "bounds" the moderators are held to, are the ones imposed by the admin, and owner of the site, and the ones agreed-upon by the moderators as a group. THAT'S THE WAY IT IS.
This is a privately-owned site.
If the admin doesn't reply, then tough on you.
Feel-free to either a) leave, and start your own community, where your own personal sense of justice can roam free, or b) leave temporarily, until the admin responds to your direct contact, or c) just simply, leave.
I'd personally go with d) live with it, but that's just me. I certainly won't go around starting threads that are thin attempts to get a rise out of other, self-righteous, not to mention, pompous, asses like you.
What are you going to do? Start a spamming campaign? Attempt to hijack the server? Hold general elections?
Whether you want to admit it or not, it's shit-stirring jackasses like you that tend to destroy the sense of community that this place tries to hold up.
On the other hand, if you do have a legitimate beef with a moderator, this thread is definitely the wrong way of going about it. You're one of those creeps that think because one moderator is doing whatever, then ALL must be either in on it, or is condoning it, whatever "it" is. How about you talk to a moderator that is not the one you have problems with?
The only thing you are accomplishing with this thread is making most of the mods go against you, irregardless of the offense that prompted this.
Now if you feel offended by any of the above, judging from your past posts, I am going to assume that you are man enough to take it, without crying over it, and/or starting another thread about how I am oppressing you, right? Mr. SF/spook/whatever-you-are guy?
Just like how a Police Officer (at least in my neck of the woods) can't give any tickets to anyone involved in an accident that occurs in a private street or parking lot, neither does whatever you deem as "justice" apply in here, except for maybe a sense of community, and whatever the administrator, and his chosen moderators deem appropriate within the bounds of decency.
Now if you think the community is becoming too overpowered by moderators who are over-stepping their bounds (from YOUR point-of-view), then PM the administrator.
See the only "bounds" the moderators are held to, are the ones imposed by the admin, and owner of the site, and the ones agreed-upon by the moderators as a group. THAT'S THE WAY IT IS.
This is a privately-owned site.
If the admin doesn't reply, then tough on you.
Feel-free to either a) leave, and start your own community, where your own personal sense of justice can roam free, or b) leave temporarily, until the admin responds to your direct contact, or c) just simply, leave.
I'd personally go with d) live with it, but that's just me. I certainly won't go around starting threads that are thin attempts to get a rise out of other, self-righteous, not to mention, pompous, asses like you.
What are you going to do? Start a spamming campaign? Attempt to hijack the server? Hold general elections?
Whether you want to admit it or not, it's shit-stirring jackasses like you that tend to destroy the sense of community that this place tries to hold up.
On the other hand, if you do have a legitimate beef with a moderator, this thread is definitely the wrong way of going about it. You're one of those creeps that think because one moderator is doing whatever, then ALL must be either in on it, or is condoning it, whatever "it" is. How about you talk to a moderator that is not the one you have problems with?
The only thing you are accomplishing with this thread is making most of the mods go against you, irregardless of the offense that prompted this.
Now if you feel offended by any of the above, judging from your past posts, I am going to assume that you are man enough to take it, without crying over it, and/or starting another thread about how I am oppressing you, right? Mr. SF/spook/whatever-you-are guy?
Ssom
08-20-2004, 01:45 AM
Arabia Forums.
AF is :gay:
AF is :gay:
taranaki
08-20-2004, 01:53 AM
What I find interesting is that as soon as I mention "message board" (and not a specific one), people immediatly think of AF.
How could this be? I'm shocked.
Hmmm.
You are standing on the pavement at Oriental Bay.
You turn to the guy next to you,and say,"Fuck,it's windy today."
Why does he assume that you mean it's windy in Oriental Bay?
Weird.
How could this be? I'm shocked.
Hmmm.
You are standing on the pavement at Oriental Bay.
You turn to the guy next to you,and say,"Fuck,it's windy today."
Why does he assume that you mean it's windy in Oriental Bay?
Weird.
Suislide
08-20-2004, 02:32 AM
Hmmm.
You are standing on the pavement at Oriental Bay.
You turn to the guy next to you,and say,"Fuck,it's windy today."
Why does he assume that you mean it's windy in Oriental Bay?
Weird.
ROFL!
point and match.
You are standing on the pavement at Oriental Bay.
You turn to the guy next to you,and say,"Fuck,it's windy today."
Why does he assume that you mean it's windy in Oriental Bay?
Weird.
ROFL!
point and match.
zebrathree
08-20-2004, 03:29 AM
zebrathree:
Did I hit a sore spot by any chance? This is a general thread on dicatatorships. Message boards in paticular. I never mentioned AF.
Perhaps if YOU don't like it, you could ask me to leave.
Did I hit a sore spot by any chance? This is a general thread on dicatatorships. Message boards in paticular. I never mentioned AF.
Perhaps if YOU don't like it, you could ask me to leave.
zebrathree
08-20-2004, 03:40 AM
Hmmm.
You are standing on the pavement at Oriental Bay.
You turn to the guy next to you,and say,"Fuck,it's windy today."
Why does he assume that you mean it's windy in Oriental Bay?
Weird.
Incorrect and fairly crap analogy.
I have seen the type of behaviour I mention on other boards. If somebody takes it to mean that I mean AF, then they're all the more foolish for it.
You are standing on the pavement at Oriental Bay.
You turn to the guy next to you,and say,"Fuck,it's windy today."
Why does he assume that you mean it's windy in Oriental Bay?
Weird.
Incorrect and fairly crap analogy.
I have seen the type of behaviour I mention on other boards. If somebody takes it to mean that I mean AF, then they're all the more foolish for it.
Moppie
08-20-2004, 04:24 AM
Incorrect and fairly crap analogy.
I have seen the type of behaviour I mention on other boards. If somebody takes it to mean that I mean AF, then they're all the more foolish for it.
Please don't try and think your clever, most of us have been around forums longer than have probobly had internet access.
Iv seen many forums come and go, all have been dictatorships of some form or another, all have been aurthoratian and all have had members who tried in some form or another to rebel against it.
Some are just out right thick, easy to spot and quickly delt with. Others are more subtle, being indirect and often skirting around the issue useing only vauge refernces, and others have even succeded in becoming admins on the forum, leading it to a complete and total collapse.
But all have one thing in common, they are insecure attention seekers and thier behaviour is always destructive to the comunity spirit that forums need to survive.
The very nature of forums require a dictorial approach from the admin and very strict and heavily enforced set of rules for the members.
If you believe otherwise then please start your own forum and prove otherwise.
But don't become one of those people who feels a need to rebel against a system that dosn't need it. You will not win.
I have seen the type of behaviour I mention on other boards. If somebody takes it to mean that I mean AF, then they're all the more foolish for it.
Please don't try and think your clever, most of us have been around forums longer than have probobly had internet access.
Iv seen many forums come and go, all have been dictatorships of some form or another, all have been aurthoratian and all have had members who tried in some form or another to rebel against it.
Some are just out right thick, easy to spot and quickly delt with. Others are more subtle, being indirect and often skirting around the issue useing only vauge refernces, and others have even succeded in becoming admins on the forum, leading it to a complete and total collapse.
But all have one thing in common, they are insecure attention seekers and thier behaviour is always destructive to the comunity spirit that forums need to survive.
The very nature of forums require a dictorial approach from the admin and very strict and heavily enforced set of rules for the members.
If you believe otherwise then please start your own forum and prove otherwise.
But don't become one of those people who feels a need to rebel against a system that dosn't need it. You will not win.
zebrathree
08-20-2004, 04:36 AM
As you wish. Any transgressions by moderators will now be taken through any official channels.
taranaki
08-20-2004, 05:08 AM
We are the official channels.Get over it,or go away.
zebrathree
08-20-2004, 05:10 AM
It's been sorted. Please leave it alone.
Jimster
08-20-2004, 05:18 AM
So is everyone alright if I lock this?
taranaki
08-20-2004, 05:21 AM
WTF? you've been bitching all day you clown.Your last stupid threat clearly warranted an answer,and you got one.
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