Civic Or Wrx??

Ok me and my friend always argue about car stuff :-) I told him a WRX weighs more then a civic and he said it didnt, i come to find out there is a 1500 lb difference and the WRX is heavier. WRX=4,000lbs SI=2,800

OK so here's the question:

We are wondering if a civic si (97-00) with a turbo charger, exaust, intake, and boost controller would beat a stock Impreza WRX!?!?! ANYONE KNOW Help would be great :-)

Thanks,
-Aaron

its possible, but it would cost a ton. id take the wrx

Yes but isnt there a good price difference in the 2 cars?? all that is about 2g's total. I think there's more then a 2,000$ price difference in the 2 cars. Anyone know ???!!??!!??!

Yes i told him the WRX is better but he wouldnt look good in one haha

Well if you compare a 2002 wrx and a 2000 Si... There is about a $5000 price difference but only a 4-500lb weight difference (wrx 3090lbs civic 2600lbs). Then stock hp...wrx 227hp and civic 160hp (the Si was only made in '99 and '00 of those years you listed and not in '97 and '98). So say 7psi of boost on a good turbo that would make 10hp per 1psi of boost; they'd be about even in hp... But the WRX would still win because of the awd; being able to put that power to the ground more easily.

wrx has awd so better traction and an engine designed for turbo. the wrx sti also has 3.0 liters or regular wrx 2.5l i think might be 2.0. so if u compare those the si is a completely differnent car than a wrx and a wrx has alot better advantages. u wouldnt beat a wrx unless u had a completely buildt built b16 but still then the wrx has alot more potential when u start modding it. thats what i think

b16 with boost > WRX stock. civics newer then 95 are portly mofos sexy light 1ton 4 and 5 gens. I would much rather the civic not too much a fan of th WRX even with all that power they feel slow and dont handle anything specil next to a nice SI but AWD does have nice point in the winter

if the impreza were stock and not an STi, i'd vote for the Civic. but as said earlier, the impreza would murder the Civic off the line...

My buddy's 2003 WRX that cost him $24K and change, whooped the ever loving piss out of my 2000 GS-R that cost me $16k ( I paid too much). So there's a top end Honda versus a low end Suby, with a $8K and 8 second difference. Basically $1k per second in the 1/4. For all the money and trouble and work you'd go through to tune a boosted b16 correctly to keep up with, or on occaision beat, a WRX, shoulda just bought the WRX.

also, for all the time and effort you would take putting all that orange dye and citric acid into an apple, you should've just bought the apple. (get it?)

with a $8K and 8 second difference. Basically $1k per second in the 1/4. 8 Second difference in the ¼??? What the hell are you :smokin:? A GSR would do around (rough guesstimation only) a 15.5; and you're saying a WRX will do 7.5 in the ¼?! :screwy: It's more of a 2 or 3 second difference.

Hi. I am a Civic Si without limited slip differential, but i have a turbo, boost controller, exhaust. My indian name is "OneWheel-Spinning."

As you lower your quarter mile time by seconds, the cost of the parts needed to get you from 15 seconds to 14 seconds is as least 3 times as much as 16 seconds to 15 seconds. When i had my v6 mustang, it cost me 1000 to go from 15.5 to 14.8. It cost me about 5000 to go from 14.8 to 14 flat. I can't imagine what it would have cost to go beyond that.

im not sure what kind of turbo Si's you guys have seen or what kind of wrx's youve seen for that matter, but a turboed stock b16 would beat a stock wrx. you forget that subaru claims 227 at the crank. they dyno at around 180hp at the wheels stock. a well setup turbo b16 would put down 220hp to the wheels if not more. there is no question that the wrx would rip off the line but by third gear the Si would be pulling much harder. hell my friends lsvtec integra caught a wrx in third gear and it doesnt put out anywhere near 220hp. you guys think too much of the wrx. it goies back to the old arguement "if you bought a $20,000 car and i bought a $10,000 car and put $10,000 in mods into it, i would beat you every time."

Hi. I am a Civic Si without limited slip differential, but i have a turbo, boost controller, exhaust. My indian name is "OneWheel-Spinning."
LMAO that is a good one

Yes but it's also only a $5,000 difference in the comparison between the 2 cars he was asking about. So say around $3500 for a turbo and all the gadgets (gauges, engine managment, etc). The you have to spend the $ to get better suspension to be able to put that new added power to the ground; so say another $1200 for springs, shocks, traction bars, rims and tires. Of course those are rough estimates on pricing, so basically you'd have around 300-900 left over depending on what you buy. But still I've personally seen friends of mine race; one with a WRX and one with a turbo'd b16a. The WRX still won. Of course this is because the kid was still getting used to driving his turbo'd b16a, but that's what happens when you first do the kit (to anyone I've ever talked to anyways, maybe some people get used to it the first day). And everyone I've seen at the track with a turbo'd car (other than one with awd) spins it's tires changing gears all the way to 3rd. So basically it'd have to come down to the driver. Sure a great driver could kill a wrx with a b16a turbo; but if the driver of the wrx is the better driver chances are the wrx will win. But that's just my opinion; but I don't think you can say that no one else knows what they're talking about.

wrx.

WRX STi thought they claimed 280hp at the wheels mmmmm. right here in motor week it confirms it 280hp at wheels maby im talking about somethiing different cause i dint feel like reading all the bs of it being a close race WRX better bang for the buck plus u wont be embarrest to drive it

P.S. yes i do know i cant spell stay in school

WRX STi thought they claimed 280hp at the wheels mmmmm. right here in motor week it confirms it 280hp at wheels maby im talking about somethiing different cause i dint feel like reading all the bs of it being a close race WRX better bang for the buck plus u wont be embarrest to drive it

P.S. yes i do know i cant spell stay in school
No one was talking about the Sti's we were all talking about the regular wrx's that have 220-227hp stock.
And incase you didn't know none of us Civic drivers here are embarrassed to be driving our cars. It's ignorant jackasses like you who look down on Civic drivers because you have no clue about them and their potential. Maybe you should take the time to learn to go back to school and learn to read and learn some more info on Civics before you make stupid comments like that. Guarentee more than half the Civics people on this board drive will smoke your car any day of the week. Take your flames else where.

LoL thought i saw STi somewhere so anyway heres a story my Aunt has a SVX it has 230hp stock and weighs the same about the WRX she beat plenty of turbo Civics with a lot more work than what ur talking about but when she test drove a WRX she said the WRX was a lot faster think about that one when they named the SI they forgot the HT

And as for half the Civics beating me i'm running 11's with my TSi

it goies back to the old arguement "if you bought a $20,000 car and i bought a $10,000 car and put $10,000 in mods into it, i would beat you every time."

That isnt the old arguement, the old arguement is, if you take a cheap underpowered FWD car, and it costs the price difference between it and a Corvette to run Corvette times, is the just as fast car just as good?

And the short answer is no.

the old arguement is, if you take a cheap underpowered FWD car, and it costs the price difference between it and a Corvette to run Corvette times, is the just as fast car just as good?

And the short answer is no.


uhh it wont take nearly the difference between prices in the cars to make the civic as fast if not faster than any corvette. and when you say that its a better car, thats like comparing apples and oranges. a civic is a civic no matter what you do to it and should never be compared to a sports car like a corvette.

i don't understand how you can compare the Si to a WRX. they are two totally different cars designed for two totally different purposes. it's like comparing a ferrari to a geo metro.

i don't understand how you can compare the Si to a WRX. they are two totally different cars designed for two totally different purposes. it's like comparing a ferrari to a geo metro.

maybe you missed my post right above yours :grinno:

LoL thought i saw STi somewhere so anyway heres a story my Aunt has a SVX it has 230hp stock and weighs the same about the WRX she beat plenty of turbo Civics with a lot more work than what ur talking about but when she test drove a WRX she said the WRX was a lot faster think about that one when they named the SI they forgot the HT

ENGLISH MOTHERFUCKER, DO YOU SPEAK IT?!

Lol whats funny is, you aren't thinking. You act like any civic its slower then a WRX. God damn, your a moron. I hate to tell you this, but any tuned b18 with a turbo would kill your aunts 230 hp SVX. I also really doubt, unless she goes to the track, that your aunt has raced a turbo civic.

[QUOTE=Ajax]ENGLISH MOTHERFUCKER, DO YOU SPEAK IT?!

"SAY WHAT AGAIN...SAY WHAT A-MOTHERFUCKING-GAIN"
:rofl: it never gets old

About the actual issue of this post it seems that every post along these lines comes down to someone bashing civics and civic owners trying to make them understand- but it usually doesn't work. My friend has a wrx (non sti so its the right car) I have a 95 civic ex coupe w/ minor mods. One day going to another friends house I sped off down the street just for fun. My friend said he couldn't catch back up to me. We didn't race and I started before him. All this shit just to say I don't think the suby would kick the hell out of a turbo charged SI w/ mild boost.IMO And I do agree w/ projectsilvia97 about the comparison issues. Threads like this start to get old. :2cents:

ENGLISH MOTHERFUCKER, DO YOU SPEAK IT?!

"SAY WHAT AGAIN...SAY WHAT A-MOTHERFUCKING-GAIN"
:rofl: it never gets old


"Do they speak english in What?"

These threads are kind of pointless without knowing exactly what kind of condition the cars are in, or other variables like that. The WRX could be running really badly, but we don't know that. Same with the Si, or it could be tuned as well as possible. Who knows? You'll only ever find out at the track if these two types of cars were to race. Otherwise, it's all just pointless speculation.

:sleep:

Exactly.

OK, time for my 2 cents! If you’re the kind of guy that keeps their car for years and years the civic is the way to go. If you’re the type who changes cars like their bloomers (and has the money to blow) then the WRX is for you.

a civic with boost and good tires will kill a wrx hands down, might get caught off the line but a walk down is inevitable...hell a civic with a decent amount of spray (70 or 80 shot) will give a wrx a run for its money (seen it before)...i respect the sti but a standard wrx really doesnt impress me that much...the sti is a beast and ull need plenty work for that one...so i would go with the civic to me u have much more potential, and a civic is a lot cheaper to mod than a suby

i say the wrx would win being for powerful but even if you did mod the civc cant forget the wrx awd

lol so basically u guys dont know...

there is alot of mixed answers :-)

-Aaron

WRX even with all that power they feel slow and dont handle anything specil next to a nice SI but AWD does have nice point in the winter

Lol, you're joking right? You just made 2 contradictory statements. Test drive both cars, take a few fast turns and tell me if a fwd car handles better than an AWD car. The WRX will hug the road.

I own a civic and I'd much rather have a 2002 wrx. With bolt ons it's in high to mid 13s + plus awd advantage and without it's in low to flat 14s. So even in a straight line it would beat MOST Sis.

Please think before you post something stupid like "WRX don't handle anything special next to a nice SI."

wrx has awd so better traction and an engine designed for turbo. the wrx sti also has 3.0 liters or regular wrx 2.5l i think might be 2.0. so if u compare those the si is a completely differnent car than a wrx and a wrx has alot better advantages. u wouldnt beat a wrx unless u had a completely buildt built b16 but still then the wrx has alot more potential when u start modding it. thats what i think
STI's arent 3.0 its 2.5 so is the wrx for the 06 but under that its 2.0 all around

This thread is from almost 3 years ago, please look at post dates before responding.

CRX :bloated:

LOL i started it...

The new WRX Limited starts at $27,495 and is the only WRX you can get with an automatic transmission. Also available as a sedan or wagon, this model offers upscale content that was previously unavailable in a WRX, like leather heated seats, a sunroof and heated mirrors.

Thanks for bringing back this old ass thread again.

rofl... i can't believe this shits still getting random replies... i made this thread FOUR YEARS AGO... jesus.. The civic with the mods i listed is faster than the WRX, i answered my own question finally, thanks.. I've learned a lot about cars and v@g1nA since then lawlz..