2003 Mustang Cobra

Anyone else see the article in the new Car & Driver about the 2003 Cobra? Eaton supercharged, 32 valve, pushing 7lbs. of boost. Supposedly putting out around 390 hp, and 390 lb/ft of torque. Now I have to try and pay mine off so I can order one this May. I have to wonder now if the Terminator Cobra is still in the works, and if so, what kind of power can be expected out of it?

That horsepower number seems pretty weak, especially for 7# of boost. What engine is in it?

4.6 liter 32-valve, the same that is in my Cobra, only with the addition of the Eaton Supercharger. It is a roots style supercharger, and personally I thought 7 lbs. was a modest level of boost. HP sounds about right to me. Who knows...I will believe it when I see it on the showroom floor.

Ford's too late.
They introduced it after the F-Body is already gone...
Now they're going to try and compete with the Vette, and 390hp isn't gonna cut it.

Ford claims it will trap around 110mph in the 1/4 which is about a 12.8-12.9 sec. MPH. Sure that's fairly quick, and much faster then any past Fords (other then the Cobra R), but they're not going to do much against a bolt on LS1 or a '04 Vette. Especially since it's a $35k car. Not only that, but its a FATASS!

I think Fords certainly heading in the right direction, and I'm sure this Cobras going to be very easy to mod. Throw a smaller pulley on it, exhaust, few other bolt ons and then even spray on top of it.

Originally posted by Tuarus SHO
That horsepower number seems pretty weak, especially for 7# of boost. What engine is in it?

The numbers seem low because they dropped from 9.85:1 compression to 8.5:1 to be safe for the blower. If they actually spent a little more time on tuning issues and only dropped the compression ratio half a point it would probably be 30 - 40 hp higher.

I can't wait till they come out.
I am thinking about putting my stock catback on the car again just so I can surprise an unsuspectnig '03 Cobra owner. :D

The look on their face....HAH.
Maybe not as good as the time I first smacked a Viper around at the track, but damn close! :smoker2:

i have the press kit on the 2003 cobra on my website

http://www.fordfans1.homestead.com/FORDFAN1.html

I don't like the idea of a supercharger on the cobra. It should at least be an option. An s-trim on a 99+ gt will get you more than 400hp. They should have kept the price the same and made it n/a 350-360hp.

I too have become more and more impressed with the ford product. I think that the mustang has become more and more aesthetically pleasing over the years.

I think chevy keeps shooting themselves in the foot.

I dont like how ford is going with forced induction though. It seems that they are trying anything to keep up with the vette. Give the vette a blower too and there no contest.

From I what I hear from some family members in the biz are that the numbers are pretty low. They said its really like 365-375 hp @ the wheels. Smart move by Ford to say that its 390 to keep it under the magic 400 mark for insurance purposes (jacks it way up). Oh, and it runs 8 lbs of boost. :)

$36,000 for a 2003 Cobra.
It weights a STOUT 3,600 lbs and will cross the traps at 110mph.
That's on par with a high 12 sec. run in a 6 speed.
Not bad, BUT...
I know bolt-on LS1's that are faster then that...
Much faster.

I'll stick with my LS1, but Ford's getting better.
When the C6 comes out, THEN we'll see who's boss
:D

the new 2003 cobra is beast! I'm not sure if guys are aware, but that Eaton roots type supercharger is capable of 16psi! Thats insane. Even more insane is that the cast iron block----can easily handle that boost-----especially since the engine has an intercooler. Hell, I'd buy the Vortech intercooler and scrap the stock one just to be on the safe side. But you get a 6 pound pulley, a chip burned by a guy who knows what he's doing, plus a bassani x-pipe, headers, an fr500 exhaust and a nice power pipe for the intake--------and forget about fellas-------that thing will plant over 500hp-----just to the rear tires!!!! The corvettes are done------at $50k for only 405? you gotta be kidding me------this is the best damn thing Ford could have done---------Chevy Corvette---------you are now on the clock-------and I don't think you will be getting a supercharger any time soon lol

how many of you saw the MM&FF artical where the got the cobra to run an 11.6 with slicks and a throw away lightning pulley??:eek: :flipa: :devil:

that was an insane article-----that car that Svinicki road-------wasn't even fully modded------and they didn't even swap the gears-------lol------Christ--------what a east

Last weekend I went to the NMRA World Finals in Bowling Green, KY and they had a '03 Cobra shootout. Paul Svinicki won that class with a 10.82 @ 132. The fastest '03 Cobra on street tires ran a 12.00 @ 117.

this is what so funny about the Viper owners who cream their drawers over the 03 Viper-----the Cobra is just as powerful and I thought definetely more---because of the 15 pounds of boost. Hell------if you wanted to even prove a better point-----you could chuck the stock Eaton------slap on an intercooled ProCharger with 22 lbs of boost----(cause the iron block could hold) and watch that bad boy make a smooth 700hp:frog:

het Viper and vette owners,
why don't you :flipa: suck it!:silly2:

i have driven an 03 cobra and i'll have to tell you, chevy has some work to do if they want to compete. I saw an 03 on the dyno and it made 412 rwhp from the show room. I think ford cut themselves short with there rating.

to everyone that says that the 03 cobra is no contest ofr a vette. 1st, wrong. it'll smoke em'. 2nd, i would hope that a vette would beat an 03 cobra if you put a blower on it. hello, you guys have 79 more cubes. i hope you'd be faster. build a chevy with less than 300 cid amd then we'll see who's king. so, when a camaro or vette beats a mustang thats stock, who are you kidding. if you didn't win with 79 more cubes, chevy would be out of business.

Nobody cares, it's been beat to death, everybody knows this info already.

Who gives a crap whether or not there 79 more CI, race what you've brought. Sounds like you're just sore that they didn't put the 5.4L in the new Cobra :rolleyes: ...

Originally posted by BlkCamaroSS
Nobody cares, it's been beat to death, everybody knows this info already.

Who gives a crap whether or not there 79 more CI, race what you've brought. Sounds like you're just sore that they didn't put the 5.4L in the new Cobra :rolleyes: ...



Hmmm sounds like another disgruntled sore gm owner.

guy would be the 'who cares guy'------why would you care-------your car is gone for 3 years----and will still sell about the same number of vehicles as you have now-----pathetic-----they could slap on a stock supercharger on a camaro ss------and you know what------no one would care----know why? Camaros, z28s, SSs----are absolutely ugly------ford didn't just slaughter your itty bitty muscle car------it killed it------the V6 sales alone blew away the Camaro sales-------sounds to me like the mustang is not just about power-----but APPEARANCE------take a hike you Cobra basher------go join your has been, ugly----underserving muscle car titled car.

Originally posted by 94svt5.0




Hmmm sounds like another disgruntled sore gm owner.

Sounds like you're jumping on the band wagon too. Easy to point fingers at GM when your competition bails. I don't need a supercharger to compete with the Cobra, just a cam and some headers. Who cares?? There will always be a better car out there. It's these chump newbies that are bringing up very dated threads. You should know better than most that I'm not one to bash other cars. Seems though lately though you've been having problems with many on the board...

Originally posted by robslob
guy would be the 'who cares guy'------why would you care-------your car is gone for 3 years----and will still sell about the same number of vehicles as you have now-----pathetic-----they could slap on a stock supercharger on a camaro ss------and you know what------no one would care----know why? Camaros, z28s, SSs----are absolutely ugly------ford didn't just slaughter your itty bitty muscle car------it killed it------the V6 sales alone blew away the Camaro sales-------sounds to me like the mustang is not just about power-----but APPEARANCE------take a hike you Cobra basher------go join your has been, ugly----underserving muscle car titled car.

Too bad your muscle car can't fit me, cool guy. Can't even get my damn knees in the door because they hit the underside of the dash. FYI, that's you're opinion. And here's mine: F-bodies have always has a better design than the Mustangs, doesn't matter what the sales are. They always remained more true to their heritage of bang-for-the-buck performance than going econo to sell more cars.

Originally posted by BlkCamaroSS


Sounds like you're jumping on the band wagon too. Easy to point fingers at GM when your competition bails. I don't need a supercharger to compete with the Cobra, just a cam and some headers. Who cares?? There will always be a better car out there. It's these chump newbies that are bringing up very dated threads. You should know better than most that I'm not one to bash other cars. Seems though lately though you've been having problems with many on the board...

The bandwagon? I have never liked camaros, and still dont. Have I ever said otherwise? I have driven them and its like scooting around in a barge, good acceleration though, but handleing and looks, bah! Arnt you the one who always says not to go on the honda board and bash hondas? But, its okay to go on the ford board and bash fords? Do you see me on the chevy boards? Do us a favour and go away to the chevy boards, need the link?

That was not the bandwagon I was referring to. I was referring to the fact that since the 03 Cobra is out, every mustang owner has a newly restored faith in the car that all f-bodies/competition are toast, when 95 percent of the Mustangs/cars on the road still can't take mine (this would obviously exclude heavily modded vehicles and stock vehicles like the new Cobra, Z06, GT40, etc.). Like I'm supposed to go and cringe because the 03 Cobra is so high and mighty.

I would love for you to find me a post where I'm bashing on a specific car, rather than a specific newbie. That I have done, I have not stuck to my guns brandwise unless someone made a blatantly retarded, uneducated comment. By that I mean that they're only thinking of their likes, not seeing the true picture. Yes, I challenge you to find that post where I'm bashing a particular vehicle, much less a ford. I still haven't bashed the 03 Cobra, just stated the fact that I'm tired of the endless rants between people trying to one up each other about which is better. I'm perfectly entitled to present a view in opposition to yours.

You not going to Chevy boards is your thing. If that makes you more of a blue oval fan, I'm proud of you. There is nothing wrong with knowing the competition. There is something fundamentally wrong with not knowing of what you speak...

the 03 has 8 psi stock and does NOT put out 390 hp:rolleyes: more like 425:D they dyno at abnput 370RWHP stock:ylsuper

13.5 in the 1/4 mile----3.42 gears? or what?----a cam & headers-----won't do squat in a head to head with 03 as you claim------not unless you have a blower-----you have pretty good dyno numbers-----and with 4.10 gears-----depending on your clutch/shift capabilities----I'm sure you can get that easily in the 12s------but still not a match on the stock cobra-----see ya later time sucka

3.23's are in my tranny, the only things I have done are in my sig. I have a friend with a TA w/ a hotcam, LT, catback, MT's, torque converter, minor bolt-ons (like the free-ram air mod), and 4.10's and he has done 12.01 @ 114.63 with that setup. I think that would best your stock cobra arguement. Or are we changing that now to "I could put a lightning wheel on my supercharger and beat that" type of discussion. Another rant that's already been done.

I never said I was a champion 1/4 mile God. More practice would produce better number. If the local track let me launch in the groove, I would get better numbers.

Wait a second, you're on that Cobra bandwagon I referred to earlier, enough with that....

the head to head match up of the 03 Cobra vs. the 02 camaro ss-----the cobra easily gets in the mid 12s in stock form. Notice I said 'stock form'------stock form being------tremendous restriction in the intake-----as well as the runners------and whole exhuast system-------oh and yea-----restriction on the pulley used on the blower------this car was absolutely RESTRICTED in every way-----in order for it to pass standard emmissions and Fed regulations. The 03 Cobra comes 8psi-----and dynos about 380rwhp & 377rwt---not because the boys at SVT can't build a better car------but because the Fed says-----you need to put 'some reigns and that bad boy'------you can say what you will-----but I would love to see how fast your precious SS would be stock-----if it had the same restricted intake, complete exhaust restriction, as well as conservative chip program-----all of which the 03 had to undergo--------For a mere $600-----you get an additional 110rwhp--------and we aren't even talkin about the headers & catback-----your argument-----is just so weak bro:smoka:

Dude, you're weaksauce man, tell me something I didn't already know. All you're doing is magazine racing...

I knew I would find somebody talking about this big bad 03 Cobra. I got news for you, it's weak.

I just got my N20 tank filled for free thanks to some jackass named Todd. He bet me a cool crisp 100 dollar bill that his new 03 Cobra could take my sorry little 4 banger.

Well, like I said, I just got my tank filled thanks to him and he's on his way to get a Flowmaster or K&N or something.

Thanks Ford, my car and I appreciate it.

I know what u want, mods:

94 Silvia K
T60 Garret
150 N20 Shot
All forged internals
Cams, ignition, blah blah blah
any ?'s, just ask

lol-----pathetic----I love guys like you --that get on a board----list silly little mods in their signature----and announce to the world----that they are bonafide experts on a subject they know nothing about-----I speak about facts-----you understand------I'm an 01 Cobra owner-----with a Pro Charger------don't tell me I'm a magazine racer------when come into a thread----speaking foolishness----and making idiot remarks---that show you eat and breath crap. Your the magazine racer---with your cam & header remark------learn a thing or 2 about blowers, gears, and what makes one car go faster than the other . . . also----go take a night course in reading----so you can actually figure out how to read the article I posted-----if you knew car tech-----you wouldn't make blatant remarks-----that show you can't look at performance objectively. Love guys like you who buy an hour of track time ---- and think you've graduated to actually being knowledgeable on a car subject.

so you can see who the jackass is------you have Nos in your wimpy car----and think an 03 cobra-----can't run with you------take away the nos-----see what you have left ------fully tune the 03 cobra---and slap on some Nos------oh---I see you ain't such a bad ass no more-----you talk like an idiot

Originally posted by BlkCamaroSS
That was not the bandwagon I was referring to. I was referring to the fact that since the 03 Cobra is out, every mustang owner has a newly restored faith in the car that all f-bodies/competition are toast, when 95 percent of the Mustangs/cars on the road still can't take mine (this would obviously exclude heavily modded vehicles and stock vehicles like the new Cobra, Z06, GT40, etc.). Like I'm supposed to go and cringe because the 03 Cobra is so high and mighty.

I would love for you to find me a post where I'm bashing on a specific car, rather than a specific newbie. That I have done, I have not stuck to my guns brandwise unless someone made a blatantly retarded, uneducated comment. By that I mean that they're only thinking of their likes, not seeing the true picture. Yes, I challenge you to find that post where I'm bashing a particular vehicle, much less a ford. I still haven't bashed the 03 Cobra, just stated the fact that I'm tired of the endless rants between people trying to one up each other about which is better. I'm perfectly entitled to present a view in opposition to yours.

You not going to Chevy boards is your thing. If that makes you more of a blue oval fan, I'm proud of you. There is nothing wrong with knowing the competition. There is something fundamentally wrong with not knowing of what you speak...



You know your really lame dont ya? Coming on here and telling people they cant jump on the bandwagon, whatever that is, like its something you tow around behind your car. I see the true picture, beside the fact that your a moron, yes the camaro had the mustang from 94-00 on, in straight line acceleration, that goes hand in hand with there bigger engine and higher hp rating, though handling and looks fell to the mustang. But who cares, that is stock, who on either side of the fence leaves the car stock? So go away troll and pick on hondas, er.. I mean honda newbies:rolleyes:

Whatever y'all say fellas. I don't expect to gain anything from conversations with a bunch of blue blooded mustang owners. I'm more openminded than either of you could ever begin to conceive to be. Mustang owners should be ashamed of having you two claiming their brand. Go and hide behind your procharger, slob, it doesn't make you any more knowledgeable than I. You can't even type in a complete sentence. And SVT, it's only a matter of time before your comments aren't even allowed on this board, coherent or not.

Peace out fellas, and thanks for proving every thought ever put forth in my mind of the typical "I'm holier than thou" rustang owner.:flipa:

Why would you expect to gain anything or prove a different view point aginst mustangs on a mustang site. Thats like me on the Honda racing board:D And if I ever do get banned, which I dont think I will, it would be because carnutt cant cope with any opinions other thn his own. So, get rid of your " Im mr open mind, see the big picture, walking on mustangs" additude. Its really kind of lame, an no one is buying it.

has picked the wrong fight------because now he aludes to this bullshit about the mustangs that are not Cobras------the talk of the mustangs on this thread--was strictly about the Cobra----not a fricken GT, or a V6-----why would Ford be embarrassed of of two Cobra owners---who know fully well that a worthy investment is placed in the top of the line model----the Cobra. Nothing was claimed about the Gt performance or the V6---because you why Camaro-chump/dummy---they are nothing special. The 03 is special in every way, just like the the 493hp Sl55 AMG is-----in that its supercharged. The only supercharger Chevy offers----is in the trailblazer----and its a weak supercharger------not even close to an Eaton. Our 'bandwagon car' comes blown---with a monster supercharger-----that makes more torque and horsepower than a big block Viper Engine on a stock 03 Viper-----so tell me----what the fuck are you talking about that we can't be proud of our company------the 03 is reveolutionary----where's a stock camaro with a supercharger----or any other car for that matter. Only AMG has learned that if you want to build more horespower--you can do it cheaper with a blower---and safer with a cast iron block---as all their supercharged engines are. The 4.6L can be built up to 500hp naturally aspirated with a cast iron block------there are FR500 cylinder heads out there and aggressive cams----but you don't get it bro-----a blown cobra----builds its own reputation. Chevy is on the clock now------since the Cobra is now more powerful thatn their Z06----Ford isn't competing with your chump Camaro or Pontiac firebird----you two gave up----and your sales vs. the Mustang are easily measured. Talk all you want buddy---but as far as king of the road--remember this------more mustangs have been sold since they came into production-----THAN CAMARO SSs, Z28s, V6s-------end of argument----stick your camaro remarks up your :devil:

The reason for being on this site is to learn about cars? What is the purpose of being on here besides that? Neither of you have listend to a word I said, and have chosen to twist what I have said to prove your own points. Neither of you have tried to learn anything about anyone, just impose your view points upon others. Last I checked, this was not a mustang site, but just a forum encompassed within the automotive community of af. Quote me all of the stuff you feel like, that's more stuff for me to know in the future, if I don't know it already. Unlike you, I'm here to learn, not spout mindless drivel about who's vehicle is better.

It's painfully obvious that we're not going to change each other's views on cars. I'm sure we can agree to that, if nothing else. If I could fit in a mustang, I might like them more. Unfortunately, I can't even take one for a test drive, so it makes it very difficult for me to enjoy anything about them.

True, GM is definately on the clock, but it is of little consequence when they have their all-mighty Corvette. They're not ever gonna let a new F-body/replacement vehicle come as close as the Camaro/Firebirds have come to it in the more recent years. That leaves little hope in my eyes for the upcoming future of the platform.

Anyhow, if you choose to continue this further, feel free. Otherwise, we can let this topic go back to it's intended course. PM me further...

To the pm then.

I have always been curious about why people are so passionate about a certain brand of vehicle. I mean, who wouldn't love to own a classic Shelby Mustang GT 350?, or be proud to own a '69 SS Camaro with a 454? I love cars for several reasons; however, I personally have never loved a car simply based on who makes them. I have owned both Fords and Chevys and I have to say that I have been happy with them both (this entire statement reflects my feelings about sports cars and not their average production of shit cars, i.e. Taurus, Explorers, Jimmys, Luminas, etc...)

I wish Chevy would make a more attractive car (in my opinion the camaro is a very plain looking car). If they would give it more curves to make it look more like the original camaro, I would buy one in a heartbeat.

I am eager to buy the new 2003 Cobra simply because it, in my opinion is a continuance of a line of an American classic. When the Fox body style was introduced in the '80's I wouldn't go near one. That Fox body style was an abomination to the Mustang name.

So, to sum up what I just said; I think it is the design team for a particular vehicle that sells me on it, not particularly the company logo behind the vehicle.

Steve.

"Unlike you, I'm here to learn, not spout mindless drivel about who's vehicle is better."---take your own advice, because you sent the thread in this direction, with the talk about how your 01 Camaro with a simple cam swap and headers could outrun an 03 stock Cobra. Which is not accurate at all . . . so lets not try to deceive others on the thread as to how we got on this topic. You said GM doesn't have to worry about the Cobra because of the Vette----let me tell you---the 03 is faster when you spend under a thousand bucks to open up all the restrictions-----its faster without a doubt thanks to the blower-----but tough crap for GM----add a blower-----the vette has been caught up to with the 03 cobra-----and PLease do us all a favor and don't give me this crap about how the Z06 can outrun the full blown cobra----because then-----you should slap yourself for your statements on your last reply. I personally don't give a crap about proving to anyone which car is better off the floor---because the aftermarket 'cleanup' of a car----shows the potential of any true car------and there is no question that the Cobra's intake design is superior to even that of the Z06----and that is clearly proven by every aftermarket supoercharger's tests with their blowers---Lastly, its good that you are here to learn about cars, but its not cool to blatanly mislead people with rediculous claims that you can't back up with test articles. I don't magazine race----but I don't make up performance numbers---thats why I post articles on this here thread for the people who really want to read the truth and actually learn about cars and what makes one better, or have more potential than the other. If the 01 Camaro SS had an Eaton blower on it-----I wouldn't be blowing smoke about how the Cobra kills that car-----because the performance numbers would run neck and neck---thats all.:frog:

(in my opinion the camaro is a very plain looking car).

The Z28 I agree was pretty plain for a while. It didn't look too bad for the latest model, but I have to say the SS looked pretty sharp. The hood scoop made quite a bit of difference as far as looks in my eyes. Thing is though because of Chevy's typical plain jane looks, I've always like Pontiac a little better.

I agree with you on the 80's 5.0 looks as well. I never liked those either, the big square headlights, it just didn't look like a Mustang to me. I have to say my favorite looks of the Mustang besides side companies (Roush, Saleen) is the new Mach I. I don't really like the old 60's Mach I's, but that new car just catches my eye. Looks real sharp, I like it better then the 03 Cobra.

I bought a 03 COBRA on Friday and I'll say they weren't kidding about 390hp. i own a 95 5.0 already and this car is the best new mustang i've ever ridden in. the 1st gear is a little shaky during normal driving but it is smooth as butter when you give it hell. I'm convinced this is the best overall stang to roll off the line ever!

Originally posted by BlkCamaroSS
I have a friend with a TA w/ a hotcam, LT, catback, MT's, torque converter, minor bolt-ons (like the free-ram air mod), and 4.10's and he has done 12.01 @ 114.63 with that setup. I think that would best your stock cobra arguement.


I know a dude that has a '99 Cobra just like mine and he has ran as fast as 11.70s @ 113 with just bolt-ons. Looks like Cobras can hold there own.

Newera,

I would really love to know how much you spent on your Cobra. I went to a dealer and they wanted $48,000! That's $10,000 over MSRP! I was sooo pissed I just walked out of the dealership. Also, where did you buy your car. Did you get financing through the dealership or get your own? If you got it through the dealer, what kind of interests rate did you get?

Man I am sooo jealous! I want a new Cobra so bad I can just taste it!

Steve.

I would love to see your new baby!

What color; is it a convertable? Chrome rims?

Steve.

AAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHH SIIICCCKKKK!!!!!

I got Rob slob on my knob!!!

Originally posted by Blackbird01
$36,000 for a 2003 Cobra.
It weights a STOUT 3,600 lbs and will cross the traps at 110mph.
That's on par with a high 12 sec. run in a 6 speed.
Not bad, BUT...
I know bolt-on LS1's that are faster then that...
Much faster.

I'll stick with my LS1, but Ford's getting better.
When the C6 comes out, THEN we'll see who's boss
:D Yea you said bolt on LS1's the cobra is stock and by the way I lined up against one at the track and with nothing more than a k&n it went 12.56 at a 111 on nittos that will smoke a vet and a vet cost whey more money put a pulley and headers and exaust and your well into the 11's every camaro or firebird i have ridden in it sounds like the interior is going to fall apart I think the mustang is just better built. Oh by the way the mustang outsells the camaro and firebird put together.:flipa:

Originally posted by blacksnake98
Anyone else see the article in the new Car & Driver about the 2003 Cobra? Eaton supercharged, 32 valve, pushing 7lbs. of boost. Supposedly putting out around 390 hp, and 390 lb/ft of torque. Now I have to try and pay mine off so I can order one this May. I have to wonder now if the Terminator Cobra is still in the works, and if so, what kind of power can be expected out of it? Hey genious the 03 cobra is the terminator

Originally posted by Blackbird01
I can't wait till they come out.
I am thinking about putting my stock catback on the car again just so I can surprise an unsuspectnig '03 Cobra owner. :D

The look on their face....HAH.
Maybe not as good as the time I first smacked a Viper around at the track, but damn close! :smoker2: Its your story make it good

...I will believe it when I see it on the showroom floor.


I have seen it on the showroom floor, and it is a sight! Beautiful is the only word. The stock chrome tipped duals and REAL intake instead of the normal fake ones. The sticker said right on it too, 390 hp, with the Eaton supercharger on the list of features.

Originally posted by 68 Stang



I have seen it on the showroom floor, and it is a sight! Beautiful is the only word. The stock chrome tipped duals and REAL intake instead of the normal fake ones. The sticker said right on it too, 390 hp, with the Eaton supercharger on the list of features. They are beautiful I seen one in person last week and I knew I had to have one I am going to sell my 92 gt in 6 months so I can get one the potential is unbeleiveable for one of these cars their just flat out bad.

one thing people haven't pointed out is that most magazines have shown that the 03 Cobra runs 0-60 in about 4.6-4.7 sec and does 1/4 mile times in about 12.4-12.5 sec. But the biggest thing is that those numbers were achieved on the crappy F1 tires. They were defintely a poor chose for a car with a 15psi blower. I bet the stock numbers could easily be improved upon with a set of BFG g-force KDs or 555 Nittos. With out a doubt, the F1s are not worthy of cars over 300hp. Avoid buying those tires like the plague----they don't support the hype.