Gto Mr?

ok....around this point...im pretty upset...anytime i look for pictures of the gto mr...dudes are always taking pictures of the car and not the engine...what im trying to figure out is the placement of the engine....is it in the back like a mr2 and an nsx...or is it in the front...cause by this link right here...it says its in the back...but i believe since these dudes arent taking pictures of there gto engine in the back...it must just be in hte front like the rest...can someone tell me the facts on where the engine is place is on the car...or some pictures...or something...i really wanna know...thx


http://www.people.virginia.edu/~acl5f/trims.html

The 3000GT/Stealth/GTO are not MR.

Ive never heard of a rear engine GTO, must have been so few made if so :cwm27:

The 3000GT/Stealth/GTO are not MR.


uhmm, there is an MR ;)

there were 3 kinds of GTOs in Japan, the SR, TT, and MR

SR = AWD N/A
TT = VR-4
MR = TT plus 13g turbos plus less weight, and i've heard about the midenginged design, but i believe its still a front engine car, i think that the weight of the car is just distributed much better

So what would be the 1/4 mile time differences b/t a VR4 and an MR?

:eek7: Realy?! Wierd, how can it be a MR car if the engine is in the front? Does weight distrobution alone make a car MR? I knew about the Japanese cars but thats wierd, anyone know of some pics or full specs?

how muc work yall thinkin it wold take to convert the car to a mid engine car...now that would bew one exotic 3000/gto

Heh yea I think thats where you cross that line into Ferarri land lol. I'm gonna go google up some pics if I can.

a whole lata work :iceslolan

hah, check out these police cars :) http://www.fleischfresser.com/w3si/japan-police.html

the mr stand fro mitsubishi racing....justl ike the new evo 8 they released...its called mr too.....but then again...ive heard of people saying the engine is a mid engine on the mr gto...this is a mystery indeed

Theres not much information on these MRs. No way the engine could be in the rear though There is room for it but the rear hatch would have to be removed and it would look like a Del sol or MR2 lol. So I doubt the MR was a Mid engine Rear wheel drive machine.

the hatch wouldnt have to be removed....super cars have hatchs just like the gto and they have rear engines...i think ited be a honor to have a rear engine gto rather its come like that stock...or i throw thousands of dollars down the drain to get the project done custom

So what would be the 1/4 mile time differences b/t a VR4 and an MR?


The GTO MR's run around a 12.6 in the quarter

VR-4s can run around a 13.5

and yes, its that big of a difference, your looking at less weight and bigger turbos, and in fact, from what i understand, the MR is the fastest japanese stock production car

There pretty fast :) How is it any lighter?

There pretty fast :) How is it any lighter?

its not as luxurious as a VR-4, its like a straight base model without any options, with AWD

Well in the googleing I did last night I found that they don't have such goodies as ABS and some other stuff I forget. Also there were only like 500 made.

wheres the engine located?

None of the pages said or had pics but I am 90% shure it's in the front from what I have seen and read. Why would mitsu design a car that had the engine in the front and then just throw one in the back?

Its in the front.. MR stands for Mitsubishi Racing.. not where the engine is located.. plus if the MR represented the engines location, it would be rear engine with rear wheel drive, not awd

Then my first post was correct! It's not a real MR it's just named that.

Yup yup

The gearing is defferent too. There were no 1st gen MR's, but they used the 5sp rear end with a diffeent ring gear in the 6sp which in effect lowers the gear ratio. There are a couple people on 3si about to do the swap. Should be interesting the times they get.

Right, it can't be "MR" if it's AWD. MR just stands for Mitsubishi Racing, just like the Evo. If the engine is in the back and it's AWD, wouldn't it be "MAWD"? LoL

And if the engine is in the back, wut are they gonna do with the big empty spot under the front hood? Put a bus spare tire there? haha

Well thats where you put your luggage! And I don;t think there has ever been a mid engined AWD car so not too many people have thought of that...MAWD lol.

Hehe, actually i know one car that is AWD with rear engine. My friend has a Porsche, forgot if it's 911 or carrera...sorry not really a Porsche expert. It's AWD, and I'm pretty sure the engine is in the back. But if you're talking about Mid-engine, then I'm not sure if there's any AWD for it.

the new lambos are mid engine AWD

giddy up

well interesting reading .. i own a gto mr , yes the MR stands for mitsubishi racing , the engine is up front , the MR had the aero actives removed and a fixed spoiler fitted to lose weight they removed the cruise control to lose weight and the four wheel steering as this is heavy .. the engine pushes 320 bhp standard as the other gto's push 280 standard .. very brief description and hope this helps a bit ..

just to confuse matters why do the call it a mid engine when its in the back and not the middle ?? HHmmm now theres a thought ...lol

like tri said...MR stands for MITSUBISHI RACING not mid engine rear drive

sigh... this topic always comes up...



Yes!! All true! Except in Japan the engine was "officially" still rated at 280hp (206kw) due to the gentlemens agreement.

MR GTOs have the exact same gearing as a TT GTO. This gearing IS different to a USDM VR4.

Also ABS became an option on the MR rather than a standard feature.

[quote=Hotshot8792}The GTO MR's run around a 12.6 in the quarter

what i understand, the MR is the fastest japanese stock production car
Ok I've never seen a stock MR run that quite quick before, not to say that it isnt possible, just that i have never seen it. I have a vid of one running a 12.8 which is still bloody fast.

I'm pretty sure that fastest Japanese stock production car is the R32 V-spec 2. The R33 vspec can pull a 12.7 sec 1/4 and the R32 vpec2 has exactly the same engine but in a slightly light shell. So theoretically it should be faster.


The saving in weight on an MR GTO vs a TT GTO is dependant on year.

MRs
94-95 1650kg
95-98 1680kg
98-99 1670kg

TT GTOs
94-98 1710kg
98-99 1680kg

When i get a chance ill write everything i know about MRs up in some sort of reasonable manner and pm it to Ingovert so he can put it into the FAQ for you guys.

-Anthony

MR is called mid engine because the engine is in front of the rear wheels and the transmission behind it. RR cars have the engine behind the trans and axel, or are configured in a transverse style, just in the rear of the car instead of the front like a FWD or FF car.

i will find out 1 day how my MR runs .. as it is totally stock ( at the moment) so i would like to run it down the quarter just to see what it does ???? if i do i will post the results for you to see ...

i don't know much about these cars at the mo but if any 1 understands my gto is running 310.4BHP / 5423 1/min (102mph) 360.3lbft / 3379 1/min

if any 1 can tell me if this is good or bad for a stock GTO MR would be greatfully appreciated ... thats what the reading says on a test i had done .. just hope you all tell me its good and not bad ..lol

The vr-4 has 320 hp not 280 and the mr im pretty sure has more than 320 given it has 13g turbos

The MR never had 13g turbos. 13g's were only an option for Euro spec 3k's. The thing that made the MR faster than US spec cars was it being lighter and the JDM gearing. That is all. It had the exact same power as a regular GTO TT.

so than if a euro spec'd gto with 13gs did the free boost mod and or the BPUs it would be the fastest out of all of them or what??? I mean becuase technically, couldn't you boost higher with the bigger turbos or what?>

so than if a euro spec'd gto with 13gs did the free boost mod and or the BPUs it would be the fastest out of all of them or what??? I mean becuase technically, couldn't you boost higher with the bigger turbos or what?>

yes, it would be faster. but we're talking about factory specifications, not how much one could turn up the boost.

yes, you can always 'boost higher', but with 13g's compared to 9b's, both at a given boost level, the 13g will produce more power (provided all other parameters are equal) than the 9b simply because the 13g is a 'larger turbo'.

so than if a euro spec'd gto with 13gs did the free boost mod and or the BPUs it would be the fastest out of all of them or what??? I mean becuase technically, couldn't you boost higher with the bigger turbos or what?>
First there is no such thing as a Euro spec GTO.;) Only in Japan were they GTO's. The GTO's in Europe were brought over from Japan. A 13g 3000gt would need to upgrade injectors before it turns up the boost too high. The major factor for the lower et's is the JDM gearing.

Thanks for clearing that up for me stealthee.

well interesting reading .. i own a gto mr , yes the MR stands for mitsubishi racing , the engine is up front , the MR had the aero actives removed and a fixed spoiler fitted to lose weight they removed the cruise control to lose weight and the four wheel steering as this is heavy .. the engine pushes 320 bhp standard as the other gto's push 280 standard .. very brief description and hope this helps a bit ..

just to confuse matters why do the call it a mid engine when its in the back and not the middle ?? HHmmm now theres a thought ...lol

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