3rd Gen vs 4th Gen
Iron
08-18-2004, 05:30 PM
Alright I'm somewhat new to 4th gen Camaros, and I'm starting to get on the scene of buying a first car, anyone who would point out some differences between the 2 generations would be appreciated (I'd like to know performance stuff on a 1986 350 z28 compared to a 1995 v6 3.8l)
ridge_runner
08-18-2004, 05:37 PM
well i dont know alot about 4th gens.. but i can help you on the 3rd gens... first off i dont think the 86s came with a 350 dont quote me on that.. i thought they started in 87.... and overall you would be alot better off buying the 3rd gen cause the v6 4th gens are getting hard to sell at a good price.... the z will hold value better in the long run... and if its got a 350 it should be pretty fast... overall i think you would like the 3rd gen alot better
ridge_runner
08-18-2004, 05:38 PM
oh and do you already have to 2 cars picked out??? could you tell us more about it... like are they stock or not..and how good of condition each are in...
mike123
08-18-2004, 06:34 PM
3rd gens are cheaper and more aftermarket parts at cheaper prices , plus they look better!
KaotiKCamaro5
08-18-2004, 07:53 PM
i heard a couple of bolt on mods to a 4th gen v6 will get you close to a 3rd gen with a 305.. but thats just what i heard.. the 350 pry packed more of a punch.. but nowhere near that of the lt1 or ls1.. and yes the 3rd gens look better, even though i have a 4th.. lol
Dober89
08-18-2004, 08:30 PM
A 92 5.7L TPI came with 245hp and 345 tq.
A 95 V6 came with 200hp and 220tq.
Pretty much all powertrain parts can be swapped over from the 4th gens to the 3rd gens. Alot of the interior fits no problem too, it basically comes down to overall looks.
A 95 V6 came with 200hp and 220tq.
Pretty much all powertrain parts can be swapped over from the 4th gens to the 3rd gens. Alot of the interior fits no problem too, it basically comes down to overall looks.
korndogg
08-18-2004, 08:35 PM
find a first gen ;)
Xbox2202
08-18-2004, 09:18 PM
Yeah, I was into third gens for a while, and I was planning on buying one, but I found my car first, don't know if that's good or bad right now, but that's beside the point. Anyway the 86 didn't come with a 350, unless it's like one of eight that were prototypes. You'll get a lot more respect from just about everyone who's not really into cars for having the 4th gen too.
Dober89
08-18-2004, 09:43 PM
Since when is buying a car about respect?? Thats for people with more money than brains. You will not find an 86 thirdgen with a 350 unless it has been swapped. Gm never sold the 350 to the public until 1987.
mike123
08-19-2004, 12:35 AM
never did like the first gens altho i guess if i had to put them in order it would be like 3rd>2nd(70-73only)>1st gen>4thgen
i want to get another 3rd gen but the emissions out here in LA suck so much im forced to get a second gen or atleast thats my excuse
and buying a car should be about a car that you love not the respect its gunna give you
i want to get another 3rd gen but the emissions out here in LA suck so much im forced to get a second gen or atleast thats my excuse
and buying a car should be about a car that you love not the respect its gunna give you
Genopsyde
08-19-2004, 12:42 AM
you'll get respect from us no matter what camaro you get, and we're the only ones that really matter.
Iron
08-19-2004, 12:45 AM
wow thanks for all the useful, quick responses guys, i guess i was mistaken on the 86 350, the one I was looking at must've been later. I was pretty set on getting a 3rd generation Camaro, I'm by no means rich, saving every penny I make to get a car. New Camaros are just more money, but I wouldn't like to get an older one and have it bust on me the first 50 kilometres. I am not comparing 2 cars, I can't afford them yet, just trying to get a good grip on what im buying. As I understand it, parts are easy and decently cheap to replace on 80s f-bodies? Is this correct?
Savage Messiah
08-19-2004, 12:46 AM
ya know im realizign that my v6 auto 4th gen is prolll the least desirable camaro lol (if you agree with this statement go blow a goat)
Xbox2202
08-19-2004, 08:05 AM
Yeah, 97CamaroRS, you're car isn't the least desirable camaro, mine it, it has the 3.4, so it has less horsepower.
Chevyracincamaro
08-19-2004, 09:01 AM
screw that, id take my 3.4 fourth gen over a 2.8 third gen any day of the damn year.
also, this topic is more about personal taste. both generations are the same in terms of reliability and workability. the 4th gens have pros that the 3rds dont, and vice versa. go with which ever car YOU like more, not what everyone tells you to go with. the one point of advice i will give you is: if you want easy cheap speed, dont get a sixer, if you want something that is easy on insurance but you will have to work on to get it fast, then get a sixer (not a 2.8 though, those are to power like satan is to jesus)...
also, this topic is more about personal taste. both generations are the same in terms of reliability and workability. the 4th gens have pros that the 3rds dont, and vice versa. go with which ever car YOU like more, not what everyone tells you to go with. the one point of advice i will give you is: if you want easy cheap speed, dont get a sixer, if you want something that is easy on insurance but you will have to work on to get it fast, then get a sixer (not a 2.8 though, those are to power like satan is to jesus)...
Lotus49
08-19-2004, 01:34 PM
I had a 3rd gen . .an 89 IROC-z28. It was good.. but i like my 4th gen alot more, its Tons faster, looks better, sounds better. and is just more efficient than a 3rd gen. SOmetimes the parts are alot more, but you also get alot more power out of the 4th gen. I sold my 89 for 3500 and turned around the same day and bought a 4th gen Lt1. But i guess its just a matter of opinion. Kind of like women. I like mine fast, hot, and will stay on all 4 when i park her at night
5 Point 7
08-19-2004, 02:25 PM
Were all third gen RS's 305's?
Savage Messiah
08-19-2004, 02:49 PM
some were 6ers
ridge_runner
08-19-2004, 04:06 PM
i thought they were all 305s also.....and the berlinetta and the sport coupes had the 6s
ridge_runner
08-19-2004, 04:10 PM
i dunno i cant think right right now
Savage Messiah
08-19-2004, 04:19 PM
Someone here's sig is a 91 rs v6... blanking out on who
ridge_runner
08-19-2004, 04:20 PM
i thought they were all 305s also.....and the berlinetta and the sport coupes had the 6s
nvm i was wrong the berlinettas and the sport coupes came with 305s also
nvm i was wrong the berlinettas and the sport coupes came with 305s also
ridge_runner
08-19-2004, 04:21 PM
it was its ummm the guy with the grey one.... yea thats right... hes doing a swap... i think its instantkevin
Savage Messiah
08-19-2004, 04:23 PM
it was its ummm the guy with the grey one.... yea thats right... hes doing a swap... i think its instantkevin
Right you are
Right you are
ridge_runner
08-19-2004, 04:26 PM
lol brain fart.... but i believe they didnt have the 2.8s.. i think they were 3.1s
ridge_runner
08-19-2004, 04:29 PM
oo oo and i think the 1990s is when they started the 3.1s... lol
5 Point 7
08-19-2004, 05:51 PM
The reason why I was saying is because a friend of mine just got one with t-tops. Her father is gonna fix it up for her and she asked if it was any fast because it was only a RS. And it's pretty cool, I told her it was a 305 v8...but just wanted to make sure. Are they at all fast?
EDIT: Auto, btw.
EDIT: Auto, btw.
Genopsyde
08-19-2004, 05:57 PM
no, you'll hafta make it fast.
5 Point 7
08-19-2004, 06:15 PM
Boooooooo!
Genopsyde
08-19-2004, 06:17 PM
it's not too difficult tho, Headers, HI flow cat, 3" exhaust, intake manifold, heads, shift kit, 3.73 gears, bigger throttle body. same basic mods you'd do to any other car.
5 Point 7
08-19-2004, 06:43 PM
Yeah...I'll lead her the right direction....at least it's a V8 right....lol
ridge_runner
08-19-2004, 07:02 PM
true that man...lol
5 Point 7
08-19-2004, 10:06 PM
:eek7:
DAAAAAAAMN, that Supra is FUCKED UP! From the Charlie Hurricaine???
DAAAAAAAMN, that Supra is FUCKED UP! From the Charlie Hurricaine???
ridge_runner
08-19-2004, 10:14 PM
nah he was just not being carefull...lol
5 Point 7
08-19-2004, 10:34 PM
WOW, I'd be pissed if I wrecked my foreign sports car... hope hes alreight though.
ridge_runner
08-19-2004, 11:29 PM
he was ok.. thats him in the pic.... he didnt get a scratch on him except crawling out he got cut on the glass crawling out
Savage Messiah
08-20-2004, 12:46 AM
what'd he hit?
ridge_runner
08-20-2004, 01:45 AM
the road and a tree
Chevyracincamaro
08-20-2004, 09:06 AM
damn trees...
Savage Messiah
08-20-2004, 09:40 AM
a tree, or a few?
ridge_runner
08-20-2004, 01:58 PM
one tree... thats kinda what stopped him... it nailed the left rear corner as you can tell.... the road did all the other damage..
NailZ69
08-21-2004, 11:37 PM
daymn
89IROC&RS
08-21-2004, 11:43 PM
is it just me, or was it really funny to read ridge say that his friend hit the road??????? no... ok
NINÅ
08-22-2004, 09:22 AM
HTML1DocumentEncodingutf-8........... You'll get a lot more respect from just about everyone who's not really into cars for having the 4th gen too.The only drivers I respect are the ones that know how to get out of their own way. What about those fools that leave a quarter mile between themselves and the car in front. Imagine the terminal traffic jam if everybody did that!
"REFUSE TO LOSE"
"REFUSE TO LOSE"
NailZ69
08-22-2004, 08:32 PM
i seen an old man with those big sunglasses that blind ppl wear driving a 4th gen...i felt sorry
...just because the car he chose to buy was a camaro =\
EDIT: bad typo =/
...just because the car he chose to buy was a camaro =\
EDIT: bad typo =/
89IROC&RS
08-23-2004, 05:44 PM
the car he chose to bought huh???? ;) lol, damn man, i hope when im an old fogie i still have that good of taste in cars, and will still be chasing skirts, i for one raise my beer to him :)
NailZ69
08-23-2004, 07:06 PM
lmao, but this guys hair was white and it looked like he was blind, now to think...he drove like it too.
..poor camaro =*(
..poor camaro =*(
Chevyracincamaro
08-24-2004, 09:18 AM
thats how im gonna be. my son and i are gonna go cruising in our maros until i die, or until i lose my basic motor skills...
83XFIRE
08-24-2004, 03:37 PM
Nailz, I have to ask. What hood is that on your car, and those emblems... nice. Where did you find all that???
by the way, we all got clown luv.
by the way, we all got clown luv.
NailZ69
08-24-2004, 03:51 PM
just a iroc hood...im gonna sell it cuz i cant use it now
ridge_runner
08-24-2004, 05:42 PM
sure ya can...some cuttin would be required.. lol... what kinda hood you lookin to get?
NailZ69
08-24-2004, 06:22 PM
nah this hood would look shitty with it cut for the blower...im thinking just like a reg RS hood or something
Chevyracincamaro
08-24-2004, 09:52 PM
i dont think its possible for a hood to look shitty with a blower sticking through it. i would like to hear from genopsyde on this matter...
Genopsyde
08-25-2004, 12:08 AM
I have a regular RS Hood I wanna get rid of.
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