Ignation system
hairybear
08-18-2004, 05:28 PM
I gotta nice 97 with 68000 miles,,but its really pissing me off!! On several different occasions, I went to start said car,,nothing,, security light on,,waited the 3-minutes,,tried to start,,nothing!!,waited 3-minutes tried to start,,FIRED right up what the Hell is going on?? Im feel like unleashing my ar-15 on it!!
Isnibs
08-18-2004, 07:54 PM
You need to purchase a new master ignition key and program it
1.Start/run the engine very briefly.
2.Then turn the key to the lock position.
3.Put the key to be programmed into the ignition switch
and turn it to the run position within 10 seconds of
removing the first key.
4.Wait for the security light to go out. When it does,
the key has been programmed.
1.Start/run the engine very briefly.
2.Then turn the key to the lock position.
3.Put the key to be programmed into the ignition switch
and turn it to the run position within 10 seconds of
removing the first key.
4.Wait for the security light to go out. When it does,
the key has been programmed.
dsatt12
08-20-2004, 10:24 PM
I don't think that works with the passkey system on the 97's. The chip looking deal in the key is just a resistor.
Clean your key really good with alcohol. Blow out the keyhole with canned air. Try using a keychain with as little as possible on it- it could tilt the key downward if the ignition switch is worn. This would make the resistor not mate up with the contacts inside for it. Another trick is to make sure you turn the key using the handles to either side of it and not the key itself- this keeps the key from potentially twisting off said contacts in a side to side fashion.
If none of this does the trick reliably, go to a car stereo shop that does remote starters and have them install a resistor to bypass the passkey system. It's what they have to do to get a remote start to work w/o the key in the ingition. Or you could spring for a new ignition switch at the dealership -or- take your chances with a salvaged one from the Aurora down at the junkyard with a bunch of 7.62mm holes in it :)
Clean your key really good with alcohol. Blow out the keyhole with canned air. Try using a keychain with as little as possible on it- it could tilt the key downward if the ignition switch is worn. This would make the resistor not mate up with the contacts inside for it. Another trick is to make sure you turn the key using the handles to either side of it and not the key itself- this keeps the key from potentially twisting off said contacts in a side to side fashion.
If none of this does the trick reliably, go to a car stereo shop that does remote starters and have them install a resistor to bypass the passkey system. It's what they have to do to get a remote start to work w/o the key in the ingition. Or you could spring for a new ignition switch at the dealership -or- take your chances with a salvaged one from the Aurora down at the junkyard with a bunch of 7.62mm holes in it :)
ponchonutty
08-27-2004, 09:43 PM
I don't think that works with the passkey system on the 97's. The chip looking deal in the key is just a resistor.
Clean your key really good with alcohol. Blow out the keyhole with canned air. Try using a keychain with as little as possible on it- it could tilt the key downward if the ignition switch is worn. This would make the resistor not mate up with the contacts inside for it. Another trick is to make sure you turn the key using the handles to either side of it and not the key itself- this keeps the key from potentially twisting off said contacts in a side to side fashion.
If none of this does the trick reliably, go to a car stereo shop that does remote starters and have them install a resistor to bypass the passkey system. It's what they have to do to get a remote start to work w/o the key in the ingition. Or you could spring for a new ignition switch at the dealership -or- take your chances with a salvaged one from the Aurora down at the junkyard with a bunch of 7.62mm holes in it :)
It is probably the problem with the tuny ribbon cable that goes up into the cyl. lock. It is very common. It happened on my Formula. The new cyl. from the dealer is around $75. If you have it permantly disabled by using a resistor, make sure to use a resistance value that's a little higher than what the key is. After some time, the car will wear down the resistance and it will also then fail because the value will be too low!
Clean your key really good with alcohol. Blow out the keyhole with canned air. Try using a keychain with as little as possible on it- it could tilt the key downward if the ignition switch is worn. This would make the resistor not mate up with the contacts inside for it. Another trick is to make sure you turn the key using the handles to either side of it and not the key itself- this keeps the key from potentially twisting off said contacts in a side to side fashion.
If none of this does the trick reliably, go to a car stereo shop that does remote starters and have them install a resistor to bypass the passkey system. It's what they have to do to get a remote start to work w/o the key in the ingition. Or you could spring for a new ignition switch at the dealership -or- take your chances with a salvaged one from the Aurora down at the junkyard with a bunch of 7.62mm holes in it :)
It is probably the problem with the tuny ribbon cable that goes up into the cyl. lock. It is very common. It happened on my Formula. The new cyl. from the dealer is around $75. If you have it permantly disabled by using a resistor, make sure to use a resistance value that's a little higher than what the key is. After some time, the car will wear down the resistance and it will also then fail because the value will be too low!
RWK
11-23-2004, 07:21 PM
What Size Of Resistor Do I Need To Use To Bypass The System So My Car Will Start
Isnibs
11-23-2004, 07:33 PM
I think it's the same as on your ignition key
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