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taranaki
08-18-2004, 02:38 AM
http://www.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,4057,10467892%255E421,00.html

pikkagtr
08-18-2004, 03:19 AM
................right

integra818
08-18-2004, 03:22 AM
Haha, that's funnny.


I don't know much about drugs, but is cannibis the same as marijauna(SP)??

Toksin
08-18-2004, 03:30 AM
Cannabis Sativa is the plant commonly referred to as marijuana, weed, skunk, electric puha, dagga, ganja, dack, wacky tabaccy, wacky backy, laughing tobacco, skank, purple kush, sticky, icky, stickiest of the icky, bud, budz, plant, tree, pot, mary jane, chronic, leaf, green, moss, green dream and dope.

zebrathree
08-18-2004, 03:48 AM
Moss?

taranaki
08-18-2004, 04:09 AM
moss/dope..... same thing.

zebrathree
08-18-2004, 04:10 AM
Yes...

-Davo
08-18-2004, 05:14 AM
My brother was telling me that shit.

of every 10 people I know, 4 smoke pot.

About 10 of my 15 school mates smoke pot. It's truely, pathetic.

Every time I go out, I see at least 10 cars full of kids smoking pot. And I mean EVERY time.
I went ghost hunting once, to this old tunnel, and there was a ute, and a fan. About 15 kids, all stoned off their brain. An hour later, another car came and parked near us, 5 kids stoned shitless.

I seem to be the only Australian left who doesn't smoke it.

Anyone with me? I'm starting an anti-fuck-your-brain-up campaign :D

NavyFord18
08-18-2004, 05:21 AM
My brother was telling me that shit.

of every 10 people I know, 4 smoke pot.

About 10 of my 15 school mates smoke pot. It's truely, pathetic.

Every time I go out, I see at least 10 cars full of kids smoking pot. And I mean EVERY time.
I went ghost hunting once, to this old tunnel, and there was a ute, and a fan. About 15 kids, all stoned off their brain. An hour later, another car came and parked near us, 5 kids stoned shitless.

I seem to be the only Australian left who doesn't smoke it.

Anyone with me? I'm starting an anti-fuck-your-brain-up campaign :D

I think wow just about covers it. I wonder what Oz is going to say where see's the title. hehe....

Ssom
08-18-2004, 05:51 AM
moss/dope..... same thing.
Agreed.



Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaait...........

Oz
08-18-2004, 07:07 AM
Huh? What? You dudes need to mellow out.
















;)

ghostguy6
08-18-2004, 08:51 AM
Oz are you smokin' up now? :dunno:

Hyatus
08-18-2004, 08:59 AM
i'm disapointed in my good ol' US, of A how is it that were not in the lead! wtf! this is is all bs :(

Jonno
08-18-2004, 09:03 AM
Lets see, im 15, Australian and smoke a bit of weed (had a sesh today at a mates place) & cigarettes. The article was kinda about people like me, hey.


(although I had a cookie on Monday, took an hour to take effect, hit me hard, taken at 3:30 then sleep at 6).

dugie6551
08-18-2004, 09:42 AM
Gee Toksin ....

You seem to know the lingo ... maybe you should move over with Oz ( ? )

YogsVR4
08-18-2004, 09:53 AM
I don't understand the attraction to that shit :dunno:

BP2K2Max
08-18-2004, 10:33 AM
"We are probably a bit higher than the UK and the US," he said. "We are a lot higher than the Netherlands, for example, which is a favourite comparison given their policies on cannabis."
^funny choice of wording

i always have to question the results of these kinds of studies. they just ask random people if they get high? if some scientist or government official or whoever randomly approached me and asked if i like to get high, i'd probably lie and say no. it doesn't seem smart to divulge that kind of information to just anybody. Maybe people in the US/UK have more common sense than the aussies.

SeXy_AnGeL
08-18-2004, 10:40 AM
There is quite an attraction when your depressed or when "everybodys doing it" ..... yeah.

deedlit
08-18-2004, 12:11 PM
I don't understand the attraction to that shit :dunno:

Try it once to have an idea and rethink your question.

Big debate everywhere and lots of things to say about it.

I'm 29, I smoke since I'm 18. I'm married, with a 8month daugther, have a responsability work, .... and IMO I'm not a junkie.

Legalize it :evillol:

integra818
08-18-2004, 02:13 PM
Are'nt cigarettes worse than marijuana?!?

Hyatus
08-18-2004, 04:21 PM
Are'nt cigarettes worse than marijuana?!?
lets Alice and Wonderland that question with another question..... IS killing yourself with a knife better or worse than killing yourself with a gun? either way your dead.



i do acid and booze,thats it

Oz
08-18-2004, 06:37 PM
I don't understand the attraction to that shit :dunno:
Pretty much the same thing as alcohol without the hangover (and cheaper)!

PunkAlex
08-18-2004, 07:37 PM
Try it once to have an idea and rethink your question.


OMFG!!!! you are my hero man, that is my EXACT fuckin thought. Im US, 16, and i toke it up usually weekly and i dont care who knows it. I believe in it, and people who bash it without knowing it are fools. It is so misunderstood and all this nazi propaganda you see on tv's about it is exaggerated or only shows half the story. You legalize it, and ill advertise it!

grimmy
08-18-2004, 07:59 PM
Pretty much the same thing as alcohol without the hangover (and cheaper)!

thats the damn truth. when i had to quit smokin i slowly moved over to beer, the prices are just ridiculous.

NavyFord18
08-18-2004, 08:31 PM
thats the damn truth. when i had to quit smokin i slowly moved over to beer, the prices are just ridiculous.

And we've seen how benifical it is for our social wellness. Yes, I've tried it. No, I don't like it. its stuipd, and legalizing it the worst idea. I say, bigger punishment for dealing it and using it. Drive as far down as possible. Drugs are the bane of our culture.

Oz
08-18-2004, 08:32 PM
Why?

NavyFord18
08-18-2004, 08:43 PM
Why?

Why not. I have to say I never understund why people do them. I did, a few times. I felt out of control, I couldn't think striaght, and I was worthless. I'm, and good 5-6 hrs. of my life waisted. lifes to short to waist on being high all the time. It doesn't cure problems or make them go away, so what good is it. I'm all for a little wiskey to help things pass by, but not flat drunk. after you stop being high, the problems are still their, more than likely worse than before, because problems have a way of getting bigger with time. So, insteed of working on the problem, you get high again. Even if you don't do that, if you work, it's only a mader of time before your boss finds out. And who here wants someone high working on their stuff. not me.

Jimster
08-18-2004, 08:48 PM
lets Alice and Wonderland that question with another question..... IS killing yourself with a knife better or worse than killing yourself with a gun? either way your dead.



i do acid and booze,thats it
Of course Acid won't royally fuck you up.....



Whether people choose to accept it or not, there is a good reason for the banning of narcotic substances and all the one-sided research that people call evidence by hippies will not change the fact that it should stay banned.

Ban Cigarettes while we're at it as well, cut that shit out.

Sean
08-19-2004, 02:56 AM
Gee Toksin ....

You seem to know the lingo ... maybe you should move over with Oz ( ? )

I told him half of that stuff. Dave is just a poser! :icon16:

Oz
08-19-2004, 03:14 AM
Why not. I have to say I never understund why people do them. I did, a few times. I felt out of control, I couldn't think striaght, and I was worthless. I'm, and good 5-6 hrs. of my life waisted. lifes to short to waist on being high all the time. It doesn't cure problems or make them go away, so what good is it. I'm all for a little wiskey to help things pass by, but not flat drunk. after you stop being high, the problems are still their, more than likely worse than before, because problems have a way of getting bigger with time. So, insteed of working on the problem, you get high again. Even if you don't do that, if you work, it's only a mader of time before your boss finds out. And who here wants someone high working on their stuff. not me.
No, no why not. You made the statement they were the bane of society, and you need to back it up.

More to the point, not everyone who uses substances is abusing them, or using them to escape from their problems.

Toksin
08-19-2004, 03:54 AM
There is a difference between use and abuse. I never touch the stuff myself, I don't want to, but I have no problem with others using it for recreation. If someone goes ahead and has a joint or two at a concert, sweet, go ahead, hell, it smells better than cigarettes anyways. It's the people that smoke a whole ounce in one go to get completely catatonic that piss me off. But hey, people drink like that, so why not? People who've had a joint or two and are not totally fucked up are a lot more pleasant than some drunks to be around. Legalise it, or at the least, decriminalise it, but restrict its distribution (ala cigarettes & alcohol).

No opinion on the harder drugs. You want to do damage, go ahead. I drink. If I was anti drug I'd be a hypocrit.

Ssom
08-19-2004, 04:08 AM
There is a difference between use and abuse. I never touch the stuff myself, I don't want to, but I have no problem with others using it for recreation. If someone goes ahead and has a joint or two at a concert, sweet, go ahead, hell, it smells better than cigarettes anyways. It's the people that smoke a whole ounce in one go to get completely catatonic that piss me off. But hey, people drink like that, so why not? People who've had a joint or two and are not totally fucked up are a lot more pleasant than some drunks to be around. Legalise it, or at the least, decriminalise it, but restrict its distribution (ala cigarettes & alcohol).

No opinion on the harder drugs. You want to do damage, go ahead. I drink. If I was anti drug I'd be a hypocrit.
For Cannabis, I don't give a shit- because neither I, nor any of my friends smoke it.

Any other drugs need to stay banned.

deadlight
08-19-2004, 04:32 AM
lets Alice and Wonderland that question with another question..... IS killing yourself with a knife better or worse than killing yourself with a gun? either way your dead.



i do acid and booze,thats it

Please find me record of a death by marijuana overdose. Thanks.

Jimster
08-19-2004, 04:35 AM
Please find me record of a death by marijuana overdose. Thanks.
Didn't Bob Marley die from Lung cancer?


Geeeeee...... I wonder what could have caused that. Never mind the fact Dope eats away at your brain....

Toksin
08-19-2004, 04:40 AM
Booze eats your liver James. What's your point cuz?

Fuckin smash u

zebrathree
08-19-2004, 04:41 AM
And I eat BK.

taranaki
08-19-2004, 04:42 AM
Please find me record of a death by marijuana overdose. Thanks.

who needs to overdose to die as a result of marijuana?

I don't know whether being stoned causes many accidents,but it certainly is a monotonously regular factor in them


http://www.newsday.com/news/local/wire/ny-bc-ny-brf--fatalcrash0818aug18,0,2196228.story?coll=ny-ap-regional-wire

deadlight
08-19-2004, 04:48 AM
My point was he asserted that marijuana was a direct factor in death, as in a health risk. No research has found that marijuana affects your brain long term. As for accidents related to it's use? I think that falls more on the responsibility of the user than it does the drug itself. The back of a Robitussin bottle advises you not to operate heavy machinery, so should that reflect poorly on the drug or the person who wrecks their car driving under the influence of it? I personally think responsible drug use should fall more on the user than anything.

Toksin
08-19-2004, 04:48 AM
So is being drunk, Naki. Illegal or not, people are going to drive affected by all sorts of substances :(

NavyFord18
08-19-2004, 12:09 PM
My point was he asserted that marijuana was a direct factor in death, as in a health risk. No research has found that marijuana affects your brain long term. As for accidents related to it's use? I think that falls more on the responsibility of the user than it does the drug itself. The back of a Robitussin bottle advises you not to operate heavy machinery, so should that reflect poorly on the drug or the person who wrecks their car driving under the influence of it? I personally think responsible drug use should fall more on the user than anything.

My point. The fact of the matter is, use or abuse, people make poor decision under the influence, beer or otherwise. should it refect poorly on the drug if someone crashes and kills someone in a car, YES!!!! How many times do hear on the news some guy, who at any other time is a perfect driver, get flat waisted and kill someone in a car wreck. do the poilce say "Well we shouldn't think badly of the booze 'cause it says here on the bottle that you shouldn't operate machinery." I don't think so...drugs will only make it end in tears even more. the reason i say that drugs are the bane of our culture is because no good comes of it. nothing, do you ever hear of someone making a big breakthough and when ask how he did it he say's "I got stoned off my ass!" I haven't. Last time I check, all weed got you was no money and big holes in your memory. at is one thing ats failed to surface, weed kills your memory. isn't that kind of important?

deedlit
08-19-2004, 12:38 PM
In my opinion,

Cannabis is dangerous if:
- associated with cigarets. It increases the power of bad stuff like nicotine, .... Smoking a joint makes 10 times more damage to your lung than a simple cigaret. My solution: less tabacco , more C
- you drive fully stoned. You don't have the same reactions, you don't see the road very well, your brain is not concentrated on driving. I know, one of my best friend died in a bike crash and I'm sure he had smoked before leaving his house.
- you stay glued in your armchair only watching Tv, smoking, eating, watching TV, smoking,... over and over and over. If you can't do anything concrete because you smoked, stop it.
- you need to smoke. Understand, you always want to roll and go out smoking. Cannabis is not physically adictive but mentaly adictive. It becomes a kind of habit to smoke a joint and when this habit is well instaled, it's hard to change.

There are still other points I'm not thinking to at this moment. It's my '11 years smoking experience', don't be confused, I don't say I'm proud of it but I've learned a lot of things. It's just my personal statement.

Cannabis can be enjoyable and recreative if:
- taken as a pleasure. You smoke like you eat chocolate. You take a cup of coffee and a chocolate bar, you have worked hard all day long and you smoke your joint back home.
- you smoke with friends outside during a Bbq and your wives are talking together. It's a kind of social link between you and other people.

I've still loads of exemples but now I have to leave ....

deadlight
08-20-2004, 05:06 AM
Last time I check, all weed got you was no money and big holes in your memory. at is one thing ats failed to surface, weed kills your memory. isn't that kind of important?

Last time I checked, whatever you're on is hell on your grammar skills. I'll put it this way, if you're dumb enough to drive plastered, you were probably dumb enough to kill somebody on your own without the help of drugs. Do I drive stoned? No. Do I drive drunk? Fuck no. Do I drive under the influence of any substance? Hmm...maybe caffeine. I know damn well if I'm affected, and I have enough common sense not to drive fucked up, I've been hit by a drunk driver, I wouldn't want to see someone else in that position. And nobody ever came up with any good ideas stoned? Are you fucking kidding me? Have you seen the shit a stoner can turn into a bong? That's ingenuity at it's finest!

NavyFord18
08-20-2004, 05:38 AM
Last time I checked, whatever you're on is hell on your grammar skills. I'll put it this way, if you're dumb enough to drive plastered, you were probably dumb enough to kill somebody on your own without the help of drugs. Do I drive stoned? No. Do I drive drunk? Fuck no. Do I drive under the influence of any substance? Hmm...maybe caffeine. I know damn well if I'm affected, and I have enough common sense not to drive fucked up, I've been hit by a drunk driver, I wouldn't want to see someone else in that position. And nobody ever came up with any good ideas stoned? Are you fucking kidding me? Have you seen the shit a stoner can turn into a bong? That's ingenuity at it's finest!

Well, prop's for you. find me about 3,000,000 other people with the same mind set, and I'll shut up. and a bong, wow. I'll tell the Noble Prize people. I can see it now, cancer cured with a BONG! give me a break.

deadlight
08-20-2004, 06:03 AM
Well, prop's for you. find me about 3,000,000 other people with the same mind set, and I'll shut up. and a bong, wow. I'll tell the Noble Prize people. I can see it now, cancer cured with a BONG! give me a break.

I'm sorry, did your sobriety win you a nobel prize? 3 million others? World pop. is over 6 billion, I'm sure I could.

NavyFord18
08-20-2004, 06:31 AM
is over 6 billion, I'm sure I could.

Well, get crackin' then.

thegladhatter
08-20-2004, 06:54 AM
Years ago when I entered the Army, as I was leaving town on a bus a friend of mine was standing on the corner leaning on the lamp post. His hands were in his pockets...cigarette hanging out his mouth....scruffy....stoned.

About ten years later I came back through town. The same guy was in exactly the same position, with the exact same pose. The only difference was that he was scruffier and more mired looking.

Pot. It does a body good.

deadlight
08-20-2004, 01:58 PM
Well, get crackin' then.

Yeah I'll get right on that chief. I'll go hunt down 3 million people with a bit of common sense while you pump out some more of them nobel prizes for me alright?

NavyFord18
08-20-2004, 06:01 PM
Yeah I'll get right on that chief. I'll go hunt down 3 million people with a bit of common sense while you pump out some more of them nobel prizes for me alright?

Good luck. All the stoner's I meet are true dumbasses. Tell you what, I make you a bet. With you get 3,000,000 people that have an ounce of common sense every time their stoned off their ass, I make a cure for every STD out there. deal?

Hyatus
08-20-2004, 08:20 PM
What? i forgot what we were talking about, dude i'm so high. Lets gets some tacos. I like stff duhhhh.............................

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