us skyline

does anybody knows how the us skyline are going to be like, i heard it was going to be not as good, because of how the us is going to make it "street illegal"

Anything that is made U.S street legal is not as good as if it were in another country ex toyota altezza (usa know as lexus is300)

Altezza = 200+ hp
Is300 = 150 hp

We always get the cheap end of the deal. :disappoin

does anybody knows how the us skyline are going to be like, i heard it was going to be not as good, because of how the us is going to make it "street illegal"
whats he talking about?
the 2007 gtr?.. or imported skylines?

whats he talking about?
the 2007 gtr?.. or imported skylines?

I think hes talking about the new 1.

Altezza = 200+ hp
Is300 = 150 hp
What are you talking about? The IS300 has 215hp.

Nissan is planning on the next GT-R being a global car. That means the cars will be pretty similar no matter what market they are sold in.

In the US at least, and possibly even Europe, the car will be an Infiniti. The 'Infiniti GT-R' trademark has already been registered.

Altezza = 200+ hp
Is300 = 150 hp


Meant to say

Altezza = 250+ hp
Is300 = 200 hp

So I was 15 off big deal.

Meant to say

Altezza = 250+ hp
Is300 = 200 hp

So I was 15 off big deal.

You're still wrong about the Altezza. The most powerful model was the RS200, with a maximum of 210hp, if you got the manual. Automatics only had 200hp. I don't know about where you're from, but here in Texas, forty horses is a big deal.

I don't know about where you're from, but here in Texas, forty horses is a big deal.
best quote ever!

I think fourty hp is alot. but that still dosent change the fact we still get the shit end of the stick on performance on imports.

I think fourty hp is alot. but that still dosent change the fact we still get the shit end of the stick on performance on imports.

Well I agree with you on that. It's just that you were giving the wrong reasons/figures for it with the Altezza/IS300 example. The reason the IS300 seems so bad next to the Altezza is that the IS300 has the much heavier 2JZGE I6, and only gets another 5hp. That surely hurts not only the balance of the car, but also the power to weight ratio.

Y is the is300 concidered a good starter track car a couple of racing schools use them and rsx's too.

The IS300(in manual form) and RSX are decent representatives of their drivetrain layouts. On top of that, the schools might have been able to get a discount on them. ;)

does anybody knows how the us skyline are going to be like, i heard it was going to be not as good, because of how the us is going to make it "street illegal"
Hate to bust yer bubble, but there aint gonna be no "Skykines" in the US. Infinities maybe...but no Skylines. Skylines are exclusively rhd.

You're still wrong about the Altezza. The most powerful model was the RS200, with a maximum of 210hp, if you got the manual. Automatics only had 200hp. I don't know about where you're from, but here in Texas, forty horses is a big deal.



Still wrong.

The RS200, or Altezza has 240ps, or around 230hp.
Its uses a 3sge with VVTi-L.

Then there are the IS200 and IS300 models which use the 2JZGE in 2.0 and 3.0 form, and are almost indentical to the US spec models, only the steering wheel is on the right side of the car, and the Lexus badges are replaced with Toyota Altezza ones.





Briantran60 you seem to be a bit lost on what the Skyline is, and how it fits into the US market.
With out a clearly defined question you will not a clearly defined answer.

but that still dosent change the fact we still get the shit end of the stick on performance on imports.



But you get the sweet end on other cars, eg Camaros, Mustangs, etc etc. All cars that are horindsly expensive and difficult to own in most countrys out side the US. It would cost me more to import and own a Z28 than it would for you to import legalise and own an R34 GTR.


There are a variety of reason you don't get many high performance cars sold else where in the world.
Many are only manufactored in limited numbers, the RS200 for example uses an engine with titanium valve gear, and like many others it also requires very high quality high octane fuel, something that is not widely enough avliable in the US.

And of course the US market is still considered to be to small, and to closed minded to accept the required volumes needed to make building cars to US specs economicly viable.

We don't always get the low performance versions. A new JDM WRX has a 200 HP EJ20, while the USDM has a 250 HP EJ25t. But I heard people prefer the JDM one because they say it's stronger. I think I have the versions of the car mixed up, but the point is that we don't always get the low performance cars.

But you get the sweet end on other cars, eg Camaros, Mustangs, etc etc. All cars that are horindsly expensive and difficult to own in most countrys out side the US. It would cost me more to import and own a Z28 than it would for you to import legalise and own an R34 GTR.


Well I dont know about that cause a couple of my moms friends who live in sweden etc have importd car from here australia as we al several other countrys and come know were near the pricing of an r34. There are no specs to meet and shipping runs around 900-2000 max.

Still wrong.

The RS200, or Altezza has 240ps, or around 230hp.
Its uses a 3sge with VVTi-L.

Are you sure? I got my figures from Carfolio.com. They should be right, unless there was a model revision.

Are you sure? I got my figures from Carfolio.com. They should be right, unless there was a model revision.


Well Im getting my info from people who own them, or have driven them, and have seen them on a dyno make 200+ at the wheels.

I could be wrong of course, but they do make a crazy amount of power, its even possible the regular RS200 have 210hp, and then there are limited edition versions with more hp.



geofroley
The JDM WRX's started life with 240hp, from there its gone up every generation, the current ones have "280hp" and the STi's have an easy 300+

I guess the Altezzas could be underrated, too. I just figured I would have seen more comparisons between the BEAMS 3SGE and Honda's F20C, since they have similar displacements and outputs.

Well Im getting my info from people who own them, or have driven them, and have seen them on a dyno make 200+ at the wheels.

I could be wrong of course, but they do make a crazy amount of power, its even possible the regular RS200 have 210hp, and then there are limited edition versions with more hp.



geofroley
The JDM WRX's started life with 240hp, from there its gone up every generation, the current ones have "280hp" and the STi's have an easy 300+

Really? My magazine says we have the better end horsepower wise.

I think I sparked a pretty heatd arguement here :uhoh:

I guess the Altezzas could be underrated, too. I just figured I would have seen more comparisons between the BEAMS 3SGE and Honda's F20C, since they have similar displacements and outputs.


The BEAM 3sge in its various forms (theres a 210hp version in the last MR2) was only ever sold new in Japan, and only for a very short period of time in relativly low volume cars, people outside of Japan are only now, 7-8 years after it was made, being made aware of its exsitance through used jap imports entering the UK, Ausie and NZ, and engines being imported into the US.
There was a similar level of mis-understanding and mis-information surrounding the Honda B16a during the early and mid 90s, untill the engine was sold new outside of Japan in the EK series Civics, and its became a popular engine swap around the world.

The F20c however comes in a car that is sold globaly, and has been marketed and reviewed by the press globaly.

When was the last time you saw an english magazine review an Altezza RS200? and when was the last time you saw the S2000 mentioned in any automotive press?



geofroley well according to www.subaru.co.nz the NZ spec WRX makes 168kw, or 225hp. And we unforunatly get the Japanese Export version which has less hp than the Japanese Domestic version.
And, there is a lot of talk that the Subaru quoted hp is quite a lot less than the actual hp, the car certianly performs much much better than 225hp should allow it to, and the reality is its closer to 250hp.
Why its done is unknown, but it might have something to do with the quoted hp of the STi being 205kw (280ps) but its real hp being an easy 300+.


Don't believe everything you read in a magazine, especialy one written in the US by journos who have probobly never ever even seen a non US spec WRX.

The BEAM 3sge in its various forms (theres a 210hp version in the last MR2) was only ever sold new in Japan, and only for a very short period of time in relativly low volume cars, people outside of Japan are only now, 7-8 years after it was made, being made aware of its exsitance through used jap imports entering the UK, Ausie and NZ, and engines being imported into the US.

I had first heard about the Altezza back in '98 or '99, I think. I knew about the RS200 with 210hp and a 6sp. I'd never heard anything about 250hp. Your post was the first I'd heard of it. Was there a revision somewhere in the model cycle?

When was the last time you saw an english magazine review an Altezza RS200? and when was the last time you saw the S2000 mentioned in any automotive press?

Haven't seen the Altezza in an English mag, probably because they get the Lexus IS200 over there. The S2000 was just mentioned by evo in it's Aug.(Trackday car of the year) issue, in both the news section, and in a group test.

:banghead: well i definalty think that for a car with the 2jz-ge engine FR (is300) should be able to beat a FF 200hp honda that carries a k20a? engine and low torque, but toyota is always killing it for everyone.