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Can i swap a Nissan Sr20det motor into a 1995 honda civic?


civiclover94
08-09-2004, 09:47 PM
Hey peoples i am planning on doing a motor swap and i went to totaljdm.com and i an choosing between the three sale motors B16AG2, H22G1, and a Sr20det S13 Red top motor but this guy tells me it is not possble to swap that motor into a civic but other peopl have told me i could what is the truth is it possible?

CivicSpoon
08-09-2004, 10:01 PM
If you have the $ and know how to do it, anything is possible. But unless you want to spend the $, cut your car up, and probably never have it run completely right; jsut stick with the honda family of motors. And seeing as how you have to ask then don't even think about doing it. I've heard of all sorts of motors going into civics but it's just not practical.

Miataracer
08-09-2004, 10:08 PM
i have always wondered about putting a non honda motor into a civic. it would be about the only thing you could do that would give you a somewhat unique Civic that can't be found on every street corner. but civicspoon is right, although it is possible it would take huge amounts of work to get it done right. just things as simple as getting correct length half shafts would be a serious pain in the ass. and thats not to mention the problems with the wiring and engine mounts. i personally would love to see some creative and well done swaps like you have mentioned but i simply cant even begin to think of affording the work it would require

exman98
08-09-2004, 10:09 PM
i dont really know any thing about the Sr20det S13 Red top motor. why would you want to put it in a civic. do you have any specs on it

it will probably cost a lot of money though

exman98
08-09-2004, 10:10 PM
it would be great to see though

civiclover94
08-09-2004, 10:17 PM
Yea im still deciding what to do i have alot of $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ so i am going to try to find a local shop that will be willing to try to attempt this swap cause it would be very unique and probably a quick car to

Miataracer
08-09-2004, 10:26 PM
you know if you do this you will have to post tons and tons of pictures. i know i wouldnt be the only one who would want to see something like this done

civiclover94
08-09-2004, 10:38 PM
Yes of course pics i just got a new digi to perfect time to try it out. First thing tomarrow i am calling all the shops in my area tell them i got money if they wanna try something crazy.

CivicSpoon
08-09-2004, 11:20 PM
Bad idea. Call the shops and ask them if they've done anything like that before (japanese rwd on a fwd chassy). Telling them "i got money if they wanna try something crazy" you're probably going to get ripped off and have a worthless POS paperweight in your driveway. Just because someone owns or works at a shop doesn't mean they have the skills of knowledge of how to do something that crazy.

MexSiR
08-09-2004, 11:30 PM
Yeah thats pretty stupid if you ask me...Better drop in a Honda engine b16, b18 or something and then turbo or supercharge it, you will be very fast and reliable.

Civic_D16Y5
08-09-2004, 11:49 PM
swap in a skyline motor, then you'll be tearing it up big time

Jas_M
08-10-2004, 02:04 AM
i dont really know any thing about the Sr20det S13 Red top motor. why would you want to put it in a civic. do you have any specs on it

it will probably cost a lot of money though

Here are the specs:
Cars: JDM Red-Top 91-93 Silvia,91-93 180SX

1998cc (DOHC 16V Chain-driven)

Horsepower: 205hp@6000rpm

Torque: 203lbs-ft@4000rpm

Compression: 8.5:1

Bore: 86mm

Stroke: 86mm


How nice would it be to have a Civic with over 200 lbs-ft of torque from the factory? :naughty:

GScivic7
08-10-2004, 03:48 AM
sr20 in a civic has been done before. I think it was in a thai or viet magazine. I don't know if it was a FWD sr20de that was boosted or a RWD sr20det, but either way it's been done

exman98
08-10-2004, 09:54 AM
thats power!!!!!!!!!

CivicSiRacer
08-10-2004, 10:18 AM
You can swap any motor if you have the money.

I've seen a 350 Ford block in a CRX.

emerge
08-10-2004, 10:30 AM
I have two friends with SR20's in their 240's. An impressive motor nonetheless. But I'm gonna say thumbs down on the swap into the Civic. Just not worth the money IMO. For the same cost, you could have a just-as-fast if not faster Honda motor.

Ace$nyper
08-10-2004, 11:46 AM
using a FWD bluebird motor yes you can i've seen it at a show with my own 2 eyes few times on the net.
and Ford never made a 350.
i think it would be alot of work but worth it esp figuring how beastly the SR can be

NerveAgent
08-10-2004, 01:48 PM
You can swap any motor if you have the money.

I've seen a 350 Ford block in a CRX.

wOot

Kafziel
08-10-2004, 01:59 PM
Ford never made a 350.


True. I do remember hearing something a couple years back that a few Ford powertrain engineers were making a 10-cylinder 350cc mustang engine but Ford never used it. But you're right - no matter what happened to it, there's pretty much no way in hell they would have let it end up in a Civic.
Probably a Chevy engine. Still impressive though; wonder how much they had to strip out to get it to fit...

Ace$nyper
08-10-2004, 03:04 PM
10-cylinder 350cc mustang engine

smallest 'stang motor i ever heard of not even half a liter LOL
I think you meant CI

Now if we wanta really nit pick Ford makes a 350 CI motor the 351 motors the C,W and M are really 350 while Chevys 350 and dogdes new Hemi are really 349. just rounding up. but no one really cares do they? well your history lesson is over kids there will be a test so study up :evillol:

Boosted92HB
08-10-2004, 07:03 PM
Ford made a 351 didnt they?!?!

^^^--- Whoops! just saw your post

StuntmanXero
08-10-2004, 07:31 PM
I have two friends with SR20's in their 240's. An impressive motor nonetheless. But I'm gonna say thumbs down on the swap into the Civic. Just not worth the money IMO. For the same cost, you could have a just-as-fast if not faster Honda motor.

the sr20 has around 210 (roughly) stock. yes you could get a civic engine around or higher than that, but once you put some money into a sr20 you will be pulling serious power. Epecially once you upgrade the turbo it has. I have seen many sr20's with more than 400 hp.

Kafziel
08-11-2004, 07:27 AM
ha ha ha yeah CI - sorry, it was the end of the day for me and my brain wasn't functioning fully. LOL
It sounds like you guys are talking about the same engine I meant; so did Ford actually end up using that 351? If drivers on the streets around here are any evidence, they sure as hell don't put them in any Mustangs I've ever seen.

megaman277
08-11-2004, 08:52 AM
hey if you wanna try it...i mean the guy has lots of money so the way i see it...if it doesnt work, he's not gonna have to sell his house or anything

Ace$nyper
08-11-2004, 09:57 AM
ha ha ha yeah CI - sorry, it was the end of the day for me and my brain wasn't functioning fully. LOL
It sounds like you guys are talking about the same engine I meant; so did Ford actually end up using that 351? If drivers on the streets around here are any evidence, they sure as hell don't put them in any Mustangs I've ever seen.
yuperz 3 kinds infact. It wasn't a v-10 probbly it was a v-8. the most famous outta the 351 motors would be the Clevaland. Over in the mustang forums they have a bunch of good threads on them.
They are older motors so i really doubt you'll see them in any stang newer then a foxbody

Kafziel
08-11-2004, 10:33 AM
Oh, okay. The older ones. The 10 cyl engine I'm thinking of was developed within the last 2 or 3 years, but I guess they just did it for grins.
Yeah, I don't go into the Ford forum. I'd have to shower with steel wool afterwards. : )

edman24
08-11-2004, 03:05 PM
ok i dont care how much money this kid thinks he has, its not enough to put in a rwd drivetrain in a civic. if he is considering putting in the fwd sr20 motor then it is possible but it would be a very special project that would require custom engine mounts and wire harness. i dont think this is something just any shop can do. and even with the fwd version, it would be very difficult to fit and would still more than likely cost more money then you have available. i would say this would run at the very least 10 grand and this is with a completely stock sr20 motor. try building it and the tally will go way up. want to be unique? get a k series motor swap. yah its been done but still very rare. my friend will be having one done in the very near future. i know of 2 other cars like this in this region and thats damn unique for southern california.

Geeko
08-12-2004, 10:14 PM
there was an article in Sport Compact Car about a group that did a really georgous swap of a Cobra SVT engine into a Focus SVT... apparently, it was balls-to-the-wall powerful, but also cost WAY more then the Cobra SVT does from the showroom floor. apparently, they sell kits to do it, for (i think) like $26k, not including body or engine/transmission. scaaaary.

know what i'd like to see? an AWD civic. from what i've seen it's possible, it just requires assloads of work.

kingdave123
08-12-2004, 10:48 PM
seriously, i know a kid who's dad and him put a 305 into a neon so anything is possible. it was fwd and actually worked well. honestly tho, why not just keep the family of honda engines? nothing is better than hearing an h22 rip into vtec. that noise i hear in my sleep. who would want to lose that? u dunno, just a rant. unique is head turning too... happy building. wallet wont be happy...

Kafziel
08-13-2004, 07:02 AM
Civic wagons had AWD in the 80s. Didn't catch on, for whatever reason. Or maybe Honda ditched it in favor of better gas mileage.

jcrx
08-14-2004, 04:58 AM
Civic wagons had AWD in the 80s. Didn't catch on, for whatever reason. Or maybe Honda ditched it in favor of better gas mileage.
Or because it was a piece of shit.

Yes, you can swap whatever the fuck you want into whatever car you want. Is it worth it, no. Big fucking deal the SR20DET is boosted and has 200ish hp, the F20C is N/A and has more than that, so why not put that in, oh wait I know, because it's a bad idea.

Krux
08-14-2004, 09:52 PM
My brother and I both have a 240sx his is white mine is black his is SR20DET powered mine is KA24DE powered it took us alot of time to put in his SR20 and the engine was ment for that car I wouldn't suggest you try putting it in a honda and since the side mounted SR20's were not built for a turbo, no oil squirters higher compression and well they are sold in america so they must suck right :). My brother put a Greddy GT25r turbo on his and it puts down 300whp at about 8-10lbs of boost with stock internals. I also own a Honda CRX SI and I know most honda engines cant handle boost in double digits to well with out having forged internals. would be a sick fast car if it was done but way not worth the money put into it.

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