Anything i can do to a 95 RS motor? swap???

I got a 95 Mitsubishi Eclipse RS for free because my dad bought it from a friend for $700. It has a blown motor in it and my dad is about find the stock RS motor for it. So there for is there any other motor that i can swap in to it? Because the RS is probally SO Slow. Or minus well commit insurance fraud and get a gsx? haha but really what should i do with a free 95 RS?

may be what you can do is get a rs engine make the swap and sell the car, it's not going to be that expencive if you do it your self, if not, i remember that yesterday i read something of a guy in canada who was looking for a rs or gs body with no rust (actually he was asking for a esi) you can offer him the body cause the engine is the same I think that he was plannig to spend $1000 to $2000 and putting a dif $ you can get a gs-t or better GSX.
Good luck

So i cant make the RS fast?

yes you can, but in my opinion doesn't worth the money and the time, you can put an intake, heathers, nitrous, or even a turbo kit (with a a turbo kit everibody said that you will be allowed to run faster than a stock gs-t)
An other question is manual or auto???

if you have the money you can make almost every car fast!!!! ;)

Ok Its manual... and its a 2.0 dohc. But the motor dont look like the regular eclipse motor. It looks like a dodge motor or something. All the regular eclipse motor have their gears on the driver side. Well on my RS the gears are on the passenger side. So therefore what can I do? U know what im talkin about right?

you are talking that your rs have the transmission on the passenger side???
http://memimage.cardomain.com/member_images/9/web/405000-405999/405895_1.jpg this is a gs-t or gsx engine the tranny is on the passenger side, in the rs or gs is the oposite

if you are talking about the timing belt in the gs or rs is in the passenger side, on the gs-t or gsx is on the driver side

yeah its the opposite of that picture u posted up. Ill take a picture of it tomorrow and ill show you the engine. but yeah its opposite. As in the pictures of your gears are on the driverside.. mines on the passenger side

thats a normal rs engine

why you think that is dodge engine???
your engine looks like this one?
http://memimage.cardomain.com/member_images/2/web/530000-530999/530920_6.jpg
Cause this is a RS or GS engine

Yeah. That the engine. Its a 95 RS. So now you see the difference? haha So is that a good engine for a RS-T?

So whats the difference in performence and whats the deal with that engine. Its hard for my dad to find that engine.. special edition? haha

sure but you said that the engine it's no working?

well My dad is trying to get one like that but they keep giving up the "other" Rs engine. But when i get it I want to make a RST...? you know the diffence of that engine. My dad says it looks like a Dodge Neon motor =\

in performance de dif is rs or gs 140hp, gs-t or gsx 210hp, a lot of dif.
i don't thinks is hard to find that engine, try dsmtrader.com or ebay.
Yeah special edition :lol2: sure hahaha lol

check in the top of the forum eclipsers-t (jake) write something interesting about that mod

so whats the deal with this different engine? check with who?

Please don't start threads asking questions which are ALREADY ANSWERED. You must realize you are asking an extremely basic question, right? Try the sticky threads at the top.

No, an RS cannot be fast without a turbo, see the sticky on how to turbo it, or save your money and buy a GST/GST/TSI. There are no other engines that will fit, including the 4G63 turbo found in the turbo cars.

I know i need a turbo to make it a RST and smoke all the gsx and gst haha. All im askin is what the difference between the Gears on the passenger side ("my car") and all the others with the gears on the driver side. you know? im just startin to mess wid and eclipse give me a break man.

I don't know the difference of the dodge engine and the eclipse engine, but for sure you can make your rs--->rs-t, you only need to buy a turbo kit and pay like 2000 I think or if you know more about engines and turbos (I think is not the case) you can try to find parts on ebay, junkyard, dsmtrader, but I think the most difficult part are the oil lines you need to run for the turbo, for that I think the best bet is the kit it cames with all you need

Cool! RS-T is going to come next year haha. Well i found out that my motor model is a 420A...??? 420A good? I like the RST idea tho.

o yeah... I found out its not a 95... its a 96 RS that has a 420A motor 2.0 16 valve... and i have a sunroof =X

well cool is the same engine (if is a 420a it came with the eclipse rs gs from the 95 - 99 and ealge laton esi from 95 - 98) so when are you going to start turboing it? or you are going to fix it and sell it?

umm u kind of sound like the person who would need to buy a turbo kit. or if u want to do some work read rs-t's turboin a gs/rs it will save you money instead of buyin a kit online.

420A is the same motor as in the Dodge Neon, which is why your dad was looking for it probably, they just mount transversly, stock (if you practice) you could take a 2000+RS and run 16 sec. 1/4 mile if you practice but you're talking lots of practice i assume the 95 is lighter so it should be even more possible

Well I did alot of researching and like that RST guy posted in AF.com said an RS can be as fast or faster then a stock GST and GSX. Now im kinda glad to hear that because I thought this eclipse will my first "import racer" car I ever own. I thought its gonna suck ass because I had no turbo and no matter what mod I add its always going to be slow. So now the only problem is to tell my dad the motor name is 420A and wait for that motor. So to create an RS-T I need a turbo first of all... So any turbo will do right? the bigger the better? Im looking for some on ebay =p

No, you can have no slack. Do you realize that every newbie has 500 questions, and they start their own thread on this forum asking away? I want to help you answer your question about getting a new motor. You and ALL OTHER n/t 2g's have a 420A. That's what you need to get to replace the motor.

As for your dreaming and wishlisting, we are glad you WANT to get a turbo, join the club. When you actually have read 2gnt, dsmtuners n/t area, dsmtalk n/t area, Jake's thread.. 1000AAQ etc, then ask a specific question that was unanswered.

Your most recent questions about what turbo to get are answered by Jake. No, you can't just buy any turbo, and bigger isn't better when you are trying to not destroy your engine. There are a few common turbos that N/T people use, and they are small.

So can you tell me what kind besides the stock GST or GSX. hey... anythings possible man twin turbo for 2minutes them boom goes your engine haha but really. what are the specify turbo size for the n/t 420A? I know more about the "other" import brand and I dont want to say the name of it because it might "offend" some people off. people in here are serious

Not really that serious compared to other forums, I just want you to realize that everyone who is new to Eclipses has a bunch of questions, but they need to take the time to search instead of asking us repetetive stuff.

first of all you need the turbo, a 14b or a t-25 will work the best since they are the stock turbos and you wont be boosting anymore than 10psi for right now!

If you think you are going to build a better RST than all the other guys who did it, then you can get any medium/small DSM turbo. t25, 14b, 16g, and EclipseRST has a 20g. I'd get a 14b. People have run 11's at near 30psi, so I think it will be more than enough for you at under 10psi.

To be honest, I'd suggest getting an actual turbo kit from a manufacturer like Hahn, HKS or another manufacturer, it can be a LOT cheaper they give you guidelines on what is safe to run on your car so your dad doesn't have to go searching for another 420A engine! Turbos require lots of parts to work properly and building it piece by piece might let you forget something like a boost controller and blow everything up
Do some research on kits, the GS-T and GS-X upgrade kits do not work on the RS or GS and Greddy doesn't make kits for lower trim cars (like RS/GS)

Not really, making your own turbo setup will save you lots of money instead of paying upwards of $3000 for a turbo kit from a manufacturer. And no, you won't leave something out if you piece it together yourself, because if you do, then you shouldn't be turboing your car in the first place :)
There is LOTS of information on turboing a naturally aspirated 1g/2g eclipse on the web. www.2gnt.com is a good place to start. Not to mention the thread stickied to the top of these forums... Good luck! :)

cool! lm going to check out those sites and see whats up. That guy posted that you can use the turbo from the GSX or GST to make a custom turbo for a RS

yes that's true you can use a 14b (1g eclipse) or t25 (2g eclipse) and the side mounted intercooler of any of them.

t25 better huh?

actually no, the 14b is better but for yours car safety get a t25 o a 14b and add to your list a good manual boost controller

how about et a setup at www.hahnracecraft.com...? They have a turbo kit made for an RS, but i dont know how much they are hitting over the head for those kits.

my friend paid 3000 for his kit and it had a t4t3 turbo and fmic it was a stage two and i actually think it was a star turbo kit

the second generation eclipse (95-99) non-turbo has the same engine as the dodge avenger and the same as the eagle talon esi (95-99) i've heard that the neon engine is somewhat similar but there are a few differences so if you're having trouble finding one for a "mitsubishi eclipse", try looking for a dodge avenger or eagle talon esi. hope that helps.

If you are still looking for an engine check this linkhttp://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=7915487042&category=33615
May be it would help you.

cool! thanks for the info! man... I dont know... looks like somethings wrong with that motor =\ my dad says we just need the block

ok, so if you only need the block that make it cheaper, if I find something I let you know.
If you are still thinking to put a turbo on it may be you like this:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=7915756546&category=33742#ebayphotohosting

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=2486816487&category=34202

and about the engine, is pretty difficult to find a block on ebay the sell you complete engines, but you should try on a junkyard, anyways I found this:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=7915060331&category=33615

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=7915584594&category=33615

Good Luck :thumbsup:

Hey to tune the engine... what needs to be done to it? Port and polish it? new heads? you know?

thanks for the link too by the way.. seems like i might save up and get a turbokit for myself for christmas haha

hellah fresh[/b] (http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/member.php?u=168230) ]seems like i might save up and get a turbokit for myself for christmas haha
:iceslolan :spit:you are luck that your father still belive in christmas, mine doesn't so I can not count with that.
And about the tune I can not tell you cause I have not idea about what is bad with your engine, and who told you that, may be is better to ask a professional. I know is more expencive but sometimes you must to :thumbsup:.
Good luck, and post some pics of your eclise.

Haha No hes' not going to buy it. I have to save up and get it my self =\ thats my own christmas to meself hopefully haha Ill post it up soon here. I just found a motor... prolly install it tomorrow.. ill post some pics tomorrow

hahaha, i though your father was going...:lol2:. so you find an engine? cool congrats!!!!

Dude i finally found my engine =) I think its going to be finish tomorrow. Now that I look a it... its not too hard taking out the motor... but wiring is a bitch haha Ill post up pics soon