OBD2 (0174) Exhaust MYSTERY
tension
08-01-2004, 03:12 PM
97 Rodeo 3.2L 4wd
About a week ago I developed a check engine light.
Being an OBD2 system I had to order an obd2 trouble code reader.
In the few days it took my tool to arrive I drove the car out of necesity. I noticed it was choked for power, it was reluctant to rev up, It felt to me as if it had too much back pressure. After a day or too I started to smell something like burning after short drives. I looked under the vehicle and saw that right at the end of my catylitic converter where it meets with the exhaust pipe the pipe was red hot. I mean really red hot. I wouldn't say that it was exactly the converter that was the center of the heat, but the area right where it and the exhaust pipe meet.
I got the code reader and It turn up a 0174 "system too lean bank 2" Which I believe is measured at the O2 sensor which is after the Catylitic converter very close to my red hot pipe.
I cleared the code and the vehicle actually started to run better. all though it still idles a bit rough. It now has more power than before I would say it almost runs normal except that the code keeps coming up and the pipe keeps getting super hot. So hot that I can smell a burning smell inside the cab.
I think it may be a clog in the exhaust. Or could it be I have a leak in my intake manifold? or maybe bad gas?
I had just had the clutch changed a couple of weeks ago which requires removing the exhasut system. Could it be something went wrong there? Any help would be kindly apreciated.
About a week ago I developed a check engine light.
Being an OBD2 system I had to order an obd2 trouble code reader.
In the few days it took my tool to arrive I drove the car out of necesity. I noticed it was choked for power, it was reluctant to rev up, It felt to me as if it had too much back pressure. After a day or too I started to smell something like burning after short drives. I looked under the vehicle and saw that right at the end of my catylitic converter where it meets with the exhaust pipe the pipe was red hot. I mean really red hot. I wouldn't say that it was exactly the converter that was the center of the heat, but the area right where it and the exhaust pipe meet.
I got the code reader and It turn up a 0174 "system too lean bank 2" Which I believe is measured at the O2 sensor which is after the Catylitic converter very close to my red hot pipe.
I cleared the code and the vehicle actually started to run better. all though it still idles a bit rough. It now has more power than before I would say it almost runs normal except that the code keeps coming up and the pipe keeps getting super hot. So hot that I can smell a burning smell inside the cab.
I think it may be a clog in the exhaust. Or could it be I have a leak in my intake manifold? or maybe bad gas?
I had just had the clutch changed a couple of weeks ago which requires removing the exhasut system. Could it be something went wrong there? Any help would be kindly apreciated.
amigo-2k
08-01-2004, 08:06 PM
sounds like you have a clogged cat.
-Ryan
-Ryan
Dober89
08-01-2004, 08:31 PM
A clogged cat definately would choke your vehicle of some power and I think the red hot exhaust pipe in front of it gives a good indication that its not letting enough of the hot exhaust gases flow through it.
tension
08-01-2004, 10:03 PM
I thank you for responding.
The red hot pipe is after (downstream) from the Cat not before.
Here is what my research has led me to so far:
I believe the cat is working.
THe code I got "p0174" tells me the downstream(after the cat) O2 sensor is putting out little to no voltage. (lean=Low)
Which makes the computer run the engine rich thus giving the cat an extra work out forcing it to run hot.
A rich running engine is not efficient thus giving me the decreased responsiveness and power loss.
This is my theory. So far its only a theory.
I will try switching around the two o2 sensors to see what happens.
If the trouble code changes I will know I have a bad o2 sensor. If it does not then either the wiring is faulty or the Cat is gone.
I am still looking for help on this one so if you think I am on the right path let me know if not show me the light please.
Thanks again
The red hot pipe is after (downstream) from the Cat not before.
Here is what my research has led me to so far:
I believe the cat is working.
THe code I got "p0174" tells me the downstream(after the cat) O2 sensor is putting out little to no voltage. (lean=Low)
Which makes the computer run the engine rich thus giving the cat an extra work out forcing it to run hot.
A rich running engine is not efficient thus giving me the decreased responsiveness and power loss.
This is my theory. So far its only a theory.
I will try switching around the two o2 sensors to see what happens.
If the trouble code changes I will know I have a bad o2 sensor. If it does not then either the wiring is faulty or the Cat is gone.
I am still looking for help on this one so if you think I am on the right path let me know if not show me the light please.
Thanks again
abliao
11-28-2005, 06:44 PM
Did you change your O2 sensers?
I need help also. :1zhelp:
I need help also. :1zhelp:
SteVB
12-01-2005, 10:23 PM
you sound right on to me. also, is the converter rattling at idle????
rodeo02
12-02-2005, 05:14 AM
Yep, red hot at and downstream of the cat would indicate a rich condition. I'd start by checking your MAF sensor, could be dirty or oily especially if a cone style or oiled airfilter has been used.
G/luck
Joel
G/luck
Joel
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