3sgte
Xploder98
07-29-2004, 08:29 AM
I have a 91 mr2 na. will a 3sgte with a top mount intercooler fit and work. can it be relocated to the factory location. Will it bolt to the na tranny. Anyone that has completed the swap have any hints or what to watch out for. any help would be great
JekylandHyde
07-29-2004, 09:33 AM
I would be best to buy a "Rear clip" ... they import and sell these from Japan, you would get the 3SGTE engine, tranny, ECU and axles. Basically everything yo uneed to do the swap.
Yes, the 3SGTE bolts to the NA tranny ... that doesn't mean that you would want it there. The gearing realy is not ideal for the power band of the 3SGTE.
The top mount IC is usually found on the Celica ~ assuming that is the engine you are talking about, there will be other differences (like where the coolant lines are).
Good luck with your project.
Yes, the 3SGTE bolts to the NA tranny ... that doesn't mean that you would want it there. The gearing realy is not ideal for the power band of the 3SGTE.
The top mount IC is usually found on the Celica ~ assuming that is the engine you are talking about, there will be other differences (like where the coolant lines are).
Good luck with your project.
ac427cpe
07-30-2004, 02:29 AM
the engine bolts in, but the wiring is a nightmare, from what i understand the dash isn't compatable.
good luck though
good luck though
Xploder98
08-03-2004, 02:26 PM
Im taking your advice and am getting a rear clip. Is there a good manual with wiring diagrams. Where can i find it. Is the jdm wiring the same as a usdm turbo wiring. Where can i get the toyota shop manuals? How about gaskets and seals. are they the same as usdm 3sgte motors. The motor should be here in a week or two. So any help would be great. Thanks for any help
JekylandHyde
08-03-2004, 02:37 PM
call Toyota Publications at (800-622-2033)
Here are the part Numbers:
"1991 Toyota MR2 Repair Manual - Volume 1"
(Engine and Specifications)
Author: Toyota Motor Corporation Sources: Toyota Dealers
Pages : lots Illustr: lots
Publication Number RM179U1.
First printing - Feb 28, 1990. 01-900228-00
First Revision - Jul 5, 1991. 02-910705-01
Applicable models: SW20, 21 series
---
"1991 Toyota MR2 Repair Manual - Volume 2"
(Chassis, Body, Electrical, Specifications)
Author: Toyota Motor Corporation Sources: Toyota Dealers
Pages : lots Illustr: lots
Publication Number RM179U2
First printing - Feb 28, 1990. 01-900228-00
First Revision - Jul 5, 1991. 02-910705-01
Applicable models: SW20, 21 series
---
"1991 MR2 Electrical Wiring Diagram Manual"
Author: Toyota Motor Corporation Sources: Toyota Dealers
Pages: 186+ fold outs Illustr: Color
Publication Number EWD083U
First printing - Jan 26, 1990. 01-900126-00
---
"1991 MR2 New Car Features"
Author: Toyota Motor Corporation Sources: Toyota Dealers
Pages : 102 Illustr: B&W
Publication Number NCF062U
First Printing - Dec 1, 1989. 01-891201-00
First Revision - Apr 3, 1990. 02-900403-01
---
"1992 Toyota MR2 Repair Manual - Volume 1"
(Engine and Specifications)
Author: Toyota Motor Corporation Sources: Toyota Dealers
Pages : lots Illustr: lots
Publication Number RM252U1
Applicable models: SW20, 21 series
---
"1992 Toyota MR2 Repair Manual - Volume 2"
(Chassis, Body, Electrical, Specifications)
Author: Toyota Motor Corporation Sources: Toyota Dealers
Pages : lots Illustr: lots
Publication Number RM252U2
Applicable models: SW20, 21 series
"1993 Toyota MR2 Repair Manual - Volume 1"
(Engine and Specifications)
Author: Toyota Motor Corporation Sources: Toyota Dealers
Pages : lots Illustr: lots
Publication Number RM285U1 (?)
Publication Number RM308U1 (August 1992-)
---
"1993 Toyota MR2 Repair Manual - Volume 2"
(Chassis, Body, Electrical, Specifications)
Author: Toyota Motor Corporation Sources: Toyota Dealers
Pages : lots Illustr: lots
Publication Number RM285U2 (?)
Publication Number RM308U2 (August 1992-)
---
"1993 Electrical Wiring Diagram Manual"
Author: Toyota Motor Corporation Sources: Toyota Dealers
Pages : lots Illustr: lots
Publication Number EWD144U (August 1992-)
---
"1993 A241E Automatic Transaxle Repair Manual"
Author: Toyota Motor Corporation Sources: Toyota Dealers
Pages : lots Illustr: lots
Publication Number RM291U
---
"1993 MR2 New Car Features"
Author: Toyota Motor Corporation Sources: Toyota Dealers
Pages : ? Illustr: B&W
Publication Number NCF092U
Publication Number NCF-083U
---
"1994 MR2 New Car Features"
Author: Toyota Motor Corporation Sources: Toyota Dealers
Pages : 20 Illustr: B&W
Publication Number NCF105U
91 Repair Manual Vol I Engine Rpt 00400-RM179-U1
91 Repair Manual Vol II Chas/Body Rpt 00400-RM179-U2
92 Repair Manual Vol I Engine 00400-RM252-U1
92 Repair Manual Vol II Chas/Body 00400-RM252-U2
93 Repair Manual Vol I Engine 00400-RM285-U1
93 Repair Manual Vol. II Chas/Body 00400-RM285-U2
94 Repair Manual Vol I Engine 00400-RM381-U1
94 Repair Manual Vol II Chas/Body 00400-RM381-U2
95 Repair Manual 00400-RM412
91 Electrical Systems 00400-WD083
92 Electrical Systems 00400-WD128
93 Electrical Systems 00400-WD144
94 Electrical Systems 00400-WD201
95 Electrical Systems 00400-WD215
91 Owners Manual 00400-17443
92 Owners Manual 00400-17448
93 Owners Manual 00400-17449
94 Owners Manual 00400-17457
95 Owners Manual 00400-17458
91 Automatic Transmission-A241E 00400-RM217
92 Automatic Transmission-A241E 00400-RM270
93 Automatic Transmission-A241E 00400-RM335
94 Automatic Transmission-A241E 00400-RM390
Here are the part Numbers:
"1991 Toyota MR2 Repair Manual - Volume 1"
(Engine and Specifications)
Author: Toyota Motor Corporation Sources: Toyota Dealers
Pages : lots Illustr: lots
Publication Number RM179U1.
First printing - Feb 28, 1990. 01-900228-00
First Revision - Jul 5, 1991. 02-910705-01
Applicable models: SW20, 21 series
---
"1991 Toyota MR2 Repair Manual - Volume 2"
(Chassis, Body, Electrical, Specifications)
Author: Toyota Motor Corporation Sources: Toyota Dealers
Pages : lots Illustr: lots
Publication Number RM179U2
First printing - Feb 28, 1990. 01-900228-00
First Revision - Jul 5, 1991. 02-910705-01
Applicable models: SW20, 21 series
---
"1991 MR2 Electrical Wiring Diagram Manual"
Author: Toyota Motor Corporation Sources: Toyota Dealers
Pages: 186+ fold outs Illustr: Color
Publication Number EWD083U
First printing - Jan 26, 1990. 01-900126-00
---
"1991 MR2 New Car Features"
Author: Toyota Motor Corporation Sources: Toyota Dealers
Pages : 102 Illustr: B&W
Publication Number NCF062U
First Printing - Dec 1, 1989. 01-891201-00
First Revision - Apr 3, 1990. 02-900403-01
---
"1992 Toyota MR2 Repair Manual - Volume 1"
(Engine and Specifications)
Author: Toyota Motor Corporation Sources: Toyota Dealers
Pages : lots Illustr: lots
Publication Number RM252U1
Applicable models: SW20, 21 series
---
"1992 Toyota MR2 Repair Manual - Volume 2"
(Chassis, Body, Electrical, Specifications)
Author: Toyota Motor Corporation Sources: Toyota Dealers
Pages : lots Illustr: lots
Publication Number RM252U2
Applicable models: SW20, 21 series
"1993 Toyota MR2 Repair Manual - Volume 1"
(Engine and Specifications)
Author: Toyota Motor Corporation Sources: Toyota Dealers
Pages : lots Illustr: lots
Publication Number RM285U1 (?)
Publication Number RM308U1 (August 1992-)
---
"1993 Toyota MR2 Repair Manual - Volume 2"
(Chassis, Body, Electrical, Specifications)
Author: Toyota Motor Corporation Sources: Toyota Dealers
Pages : lots Illustr: lots
Publication Number RM285U2 (?)
Publication Number RM308U2 (August 1992-)
---
"1993 Electrical Wiring Diagram Manual"
Author: Toyota Motor Corporation Sources: Toyota Dealers
Pages : lots Illustr: lots
Publication Number EWD144U (August 1992-)
---
"1993 A241E Automatic Transaxle Repair Manual"
Author: Toyota Motor Corporation Sources: Toyota Dealers
Pages : lots Illustr: lots
Publication Number RM291U
---
"1993 MR2 New Car Features"
Author: Toyota Motor Corporation Sources: Toyota Dealers
Pages : ? Illustr: B&W
Publication Number NCF092U
Publication Number NCF-083U
---
"1994 MR2 New Car Features"
Author: Toyota Motor Corporation Sources: Toyota Dealers
Pages : 20 Illustr: B&W
Publication Number NCF105U
91 Repair Manual Vol I Engine Rpt 00400-RM179-U1
91 Repair Manual Vol II Chas/Body Rpt 00400-RM179-U2
92 Repair Manual Vol I Engine 00400-RM252-U1
92 Repair Manual Vol II Chas/Body 00400-RM252-U2
93 Repair Manual Vol I Engine 00400-RM285-U1
93 Repair Manual Vol. II Chas/Body 00400-RM285-U2
94 Repair Manual Vol I Engine 00400-RM381-U1
94 Repair Manual Vol II Chas/Body 00400-RM381-U2
95 Repair Manual 00400-RM412
91 Electrical Systems 00400-WD083
92 Electrical Systems 00400-WD128
93 Electrical Systems 00400-WD144
94 Electrical Systems 00400-WD201
95 Electrical Systems 00400-WD215
91 Owners Manual 00400-17443
92 Owners Manual 00400-17448
93 Owners Manual 00400-17449
94 Owners Manual 00400-17457
95 Owners Manual 00400-17458
91 Automatic Transmission-A241E 00400-RM217
92 Automatic Transmission-A241E 00400-RM270
93 Automatic Transmission-A241E 00400-RM335
94 Automatic Transmission-A241E 00400-RM390
Xploder98
08-03-2004, 04:11 PM
Im guessing that means they are the same. Thanks again
ac427cpe
08-03-2004, 04:53 PM
jdm wiring and usdm wiring are different. best bet is to look online. good luck! wiring is a nightmare
TRD2000
08-17-2004, 04:20 PM
ditto... but i think the toyota workshop books are great, they've just hit my wish list. on my desk (at work) right now i have ecu pinouts for the mr2 3s-ge and the celica GT4 3s-gte ... you might want to check the intercooler some were water/air. oops half cut sorry my bad!
Xploder98
08-18-2004, 01:52 PM
should have the clip here today! Cant wait hahahahaa
this week i have recieved 4 alt wheels
4 kumho 712 tires
tein besic coil overs
and the rear clip to a jdm toyota mr2
sounds like a cristmas carrol
this week i have recieved 4 alt wheels
4 kumho 712 tires
tein besic coil overs
and the rear clip to a jdm toyota mr2
sounds like a cristmas carrol
TRD2000
08-18-2004, 03:28 PM
haha nice! i wish Santa would drop by my place!
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