Does anybody think this would work???
98maro
07-26-2004, 11:37 PM
I was just wanting to get some opinions on this "electric turbo",it says it ads 20-30 HP,I dont think those results are realistic but would it help at all? Here's the link.....
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=7912661358&category=38634 (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=7912661358&category=38634)
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=7912661358&category=38634 (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=7912661358&category=38634)
LiquidSmooth
07-26-2004, 11:40 PM
i think everybody on earth would buy that if it works, but i doubt it
Savage Messiah
07-26-2004, 11:56 PM
if it works ill buy 6... lol...
drvngstorm05
07-27-2004, 12:17 AM
you'd think that if this were actually a dependable and worthwhile mod, we would see alot more of it. who knows... i'd try it, for free, don't know if i would chance 80 bucks on it...
LiquidSmooth
07-27-2004, 12:55 AM
HAHAHA i'm gonna buy 6 and hook it up, it's cool man!!! that way i could get 2400 cfm!!! it's non stop action on these boards!!!! f'in' crazy!!!! BAWAAAAAAAAA
94CamaroZ28
07-27-2004, 01:10 AM
that looks like complete garbage to me... don't waist your money
goldz28
07-27-2004, 03:54 AM
Looks like a plastic fan you can buy at some mom and pop store. Put it on your head board to keep cool at night...lol I agree with everyone else its a peice of crap.
Hypsi87
07-27-2004, 08:02 AM
no they do not work....point blank
drvngstorm05
07-27-2004, 08:52 AM
wait a minute, how can it call itself a turbo at all, even electric? turbochargers by definition are spooled up by exhaust gas. while superchargers by definition are spooled by the engine itself... so what the hell could u actually call this thing? electrocharger? maybe shockcharger? or maybe even idontfuckingworkcharger? oh well, i'll prolly hear some ricer tellin me about it and how it makes him the fastest thing on earth in a couple days...
Chevyracincamaro
07-27-2004, 09:28 AM
im pretty sure that your engine flows 400 cfm operating normally. i dont feel like running the numbers but im pretty sure that it does, meaning this is a retarded idea...
pro_am
07-27-2004, 09:35 AM
There are electric fans out there that put out MORE than enough air to forcedly induct air into your engine, that could be controlled via reostat. the problem is that you need a very good source of 110v at least to run the thing. Getting that in a car, without having to do way more than it's worth is the problem. And then getting it into a platform that people will believe in and buy, that'll be though. Like hypsi87 said, it's probably not going to work. Too many unknowns, way too many.
Jake
Jake
Chevyracincamaro
07-27-2004, 09:37 AM
my thing is that this thing is just a fan, it doenst compress the air at all, just flows more. so youre not going to get the turbo results, dont even know why they consider it a turbo...
Hypsi87
07-27-2004, 03:59 PM
Ok here is one reason why it won't work.... Just incase someone wants to argure with me. Have you noticed that a turbocharger is kina shaped like a snail shell? Well that is because the turbocharger compresses the air inside the housing using precision machined compressor wheel agenst the compressor at a tight tolerance
for example...
http://files.automotiveforums.com/gallery/watermark.php?file=/500/87736turbohowto1.jpg
you see how the compressor wheel (boxed in red) is taperd? Well the small part of the wheel (what you can see from the outside of the turbo) is called the inducer. The larger part of the wheel (the part that is in the the compressor housing. The inducer grabs the air (represented by pink lines) sitting in the inlet bell (represented by the green area) and channels through the fins to the exducer. The exducer then throws the air against the compressor housing (Shown in red with white spots.) As the air is thrown against the compressor housing the air behind (Represented in blue) it pushes the air even harder, hence compression. Then the compressed air exits out the outlet bell So compression, (Which a turbocharger does) happens inside the turbocharger. Exhaust is shown in brown but we all know how that works.
Now lets look at the "Eleteric turbocharger"
http://files.automotiveforums.com/gallery/watermark.php?file=/500/87736retardid1.jpg
all the air does is go throug a fan which is the same side and the blades are at the same angle. No compression.
A turbocharger does not change your engines airflow number like everyone thinks they do. To do that, a turbo would have to be a pressure adder. Well a turbo is a pressure muliplier, it changes the air density (Weight) If you take 300 CFM at atmospheric pressure and then increase the pressure to 15 PSI of boost, it is still 300 CFM. Take 300 CFM to 90 PSI of boost, its still 300CFM. Boost will not affect an engine's CFM output but, CFM will affect boost pressures. take 20 PSI of boost at 250CFM then increase the CFM flow to 500 your boost will drop to 10 PSI because of less restriction. Even on the flip side, take the 250 CFM and drop it to 125 CFM and your boost will increase 40 PSI. Boost is pressure and pressure is caused by restriction.
So boost is the measurement of air that you don't use :eek7:
(I put all that in to clarify as to why this will not work on a engine car engine that flows well over the 100 CFM range
for example...
http://files.automotiveforums.com/gallery/watermark.php?file=/500/87736turbohowto1.jpg
you see how the compressor wheel (boxed in red) is taperd? Well the small part of the wheel (what you can see from the outside of the turbo) is called the inducer. The larger part of the wheel (the part that is in the the compressor housing. The inducer grabs the air (represented by pink lines) sitting in the inlet bell (represented by the green area) and channels through the fins to the exducer. The exducer then throws the air against the compressor housing (Shown in red with white spots.) As the air is thrown against the compressor housing the air behind (Represented in blue) it pushes the air even harder, hence compression. Then the compressed air exits out the outlet bell So compression, (Which a turbocharger does) happens inside the turbocharger. Exhaust is shown in brown but we all know how that works.
Now lets look at the "Eleteric turbocharger"
http://files.automotiveforums.com/gallery/watermark.php?file=/500/87736retardid1.jpg
all the air does is go throug a fan which is the same side and the blades are at the same angle. No compression.
A turbocharger does not change your engines airflow number like everyone thinks they do. To do that, a turbo would have to be a pressure adder. Well a turbo is a pressure muliplier, it changes the air density (Weight) If you take 300 CFM at atmospheric pressure and then increase the pressure to 15 PSI of boost, it is still 300 CFM. Take 300 CFM to 90 PSI of boost, its still 300CFM. Boost will not affect an engine's CFM output but, CFM will affect boost pressures. take 20 PSI of boost at 250CFM then increase the CFM flow to 500 your boost will drop to 10 PSI because of less restriction. Even on the flip side, take the 250 CFM and drop it to 125 CFM and your boost will increase 40 PSI. Boost is pressure and pressure is caused by restriction.
So boost is the measurement of air that you don't use :eek7:
(I put all that in to clarify as to why this will not work on a engine car engine that flows well over the 100 CFM range
LiquidSmooth
07-27-2004, 04:19 PM
It will probably work on a 1.4l 3 or 4 cyl...
LiquidSmooth
07-27-2004, 04:19 PM
and none of you bastards like my buying 6 joke, screw you!
Hypsi87
07-27-2004, 04:24 PM
It will probably work on a 1.4l 3 or 4 cyl...
nope it would not work on any automotive engine, even a smallllll 4 cylinder. the intake mainfolds on vheicles have just too much volume, and the damn thing won't compress crap. You might as well use it for a blower motor on your HVAC system
nope it would not work on any automotive engine, even a smallllll 4 cylinder. the intake mainfolds on vheicles have just too much volume, and the damn thing won't compress crap. You might as well use it for a blower motor on your HVAC system
Chevyracincamaro
07-27-2004, 09:43 PM
and this is why i love hypsi, in a completely non-homosexual way...
Hypsi87
07-28-2004, 07:55 AM
thanks.... I guess :uhoh:
:)
:)
LT1MAN
07-28-2004, 08:24 AM
that piece of crap fan will definately not do a stinkin thing, for any engine. you can get more results from riding around with no air filter.
LT1MAN
07-28-2004, 08:34 AM
if you want to pull some SERIOUS power from a v8 you have to spend some money. if you want to pull some SERIOUS power from a v6 your gonna have to spend a hell of a lot of money just to make it as strong as a v8. why do people buy these v6 camaros and mustangs and try to hook them up and make them fast? i dont get it. might as well get a ricer and get some good gas milage and slap a fart pipe on it with some blue headlight bulbs and roll out. im not bashin v6 camaros but if you want that thing to be fast your gonna really have to fork it out. free mods only get you so far and theres no miracle to and enormous amount of power for cheap like an "electrocharger". you can make a cold air intake, grab some headers and pipes all the way back and you'll be at a good starting point.
Hypsi87
07-28-2004, 09:23 AM
if you want to pull some SERIOUS power from a v8 you have to spend some money. if you want to pull some SERIOUS power from a v6 your gonna have to spend a hell of a lot of money just to make it as strong as a v8. why do people buy these v6 camaros and mustangs and try to hook them up and make them fast? i dont get it. might as well get a ricer and get some good gas milage and slap a fart pipe on it with some blue headlight bulbs and roll out. im not bashin v6 camaros but if you want that thing to be fast your gonna really have to fork it out. free mods only get you so far and theres no miracle to and enormous amount of power for cheap like an "electrocharger". you can make a cold air intake, grab some headers and pipes all the way back and you'll be at a good starting point.
I have 1,200 bucks in my v-6 car..... wanna race
I have 1,200 bucks in my v-6 car..... wanna race
ridge_runner
07-28-2004, 11:13 AM
lmfao
Savage Messiah
07-28-2004, 01:37 PM
hey lt1man, you've got an lt1 he has a v6, go for it... ;);)
DiabloGT
07-28-2004, 02:24 PM
and none of you bastards like my buying 6 joke, screw you!
it wasnt funny thats why noone was laughing...
it wasnt funny thats why noone was laughing...
98maro
07-28-2004, 06:11 PM
if you want to pull some SERIOUS power from a v8 you have to spend some money. if you want to pull some SERIOUS power from a v6 your gonna have to spend a hell of a lot of money just to make it as strong as a v8. why do people buy these v6 camaros and mustangs and try to hook them up and make them fast? i dont get it. might as well get a ricer and get some good gas milage and slap a fart pipe on it with some blue headlight bulbs and roll out. im not bashin v6 camaros but if you want that thing to be fast your gonna really have to fork it out. free mods only get you so far and theres no miracle to and enormous amount of power for cheap like an "electrocharger". you can make a cold air intake, grab some headers and pipes all the way back and you'll be at a good starting point.
The reason why I can't get a V8 is because insurance,I just got my license about a month ago and I'm just tryin to get enough HP out of my V6 to hang with all the rice burners where I live,the reason why I didnt get a rice burner is because my family all has chevy's(corvette,tahoe,2 chevy trucks) and my parents wouldnt let me get a rice burner even if I wanted one,lol
The reason why I can't get a V8 is because insurance,I just got my license about a month ago and I'm just tryin to get enough HP out of my V6 to hang with all the rice burners where I live,the reason why I didnt get a rice burner is because my family all has chevy's(corvette,tahoe,2 chevy trucks) and my parents wouldnt let me get a rice burner even if I wanted one,lol
Savage Messiah
07-28-2004, 07:10 PM
ass, take out the vette lol
98maro
07-28-2004, 07:19 PM
ass, take out the vette lol
LOL,i try to but it only has 24k miles on it and has never seen any rain and my dad has never let it spend a night outside,I did get to drive it to football prac. once but thats it,I was wanting to put a pic of it in my sig. but it says the pics too big,how do I fix that?
LOL,i try to but it only has 24k miles on it and has never seen any rain and my dad has never let it spend a night outside,I did get to drive it to football prac. once but thats it,I was wanting to put a pic of it in my sig. but it says the pics too big,how do I fix that?
Savage Messiah
07-28-2004, 07:22 PM
what i do is go into paint, and resize it
i usually go by dpi or whatever, not in or cm, taek the numbers divide em by whatever, so its that much smaller
i usually go by dpi or whatever, not in or cm, taek the numbers divide em by whatever, so its that much smaller
98maro
07-28-2004, 07:35 PM
still cant get it to work,Ill try again when Im more patient,lol,thanks for the help though
drvngstorm05
07-28-2004, 07:59 PM
I have 1,200 bucks in my v-6 car..... wanna race
lmao, lt1 prepare to be bent over and raped HARD. weren't u in the 12's or 11's hypsi? i have alot more in my car, and i'm not gonna be that fast... but i prolly spent less getting my car, i payed 1600 for my car.
how much can i spend b4 i'm even w/ your car+parts price?
lmao, lt1 prepare to be bent over and raped HARD. weren't u in the 12's or 11's hypsi? i have alot more in my car, and i'm not gonna be that fast... but i prolly spent less getting my car, i payed 1600 for my car.
how much can i spend b4 i'm even w/ your car+parts price?
KaotiKCamaro5
07-28-2004, 08:03 PM
i wanna see Hypsi race Lt1man.. that would be fun to watch.. score 1 for the SIXER
Hypsi87
08-01-2004, 05:14 AM
lmao, lt1 prepare to be bent over and raped HARD. weren't u in the 12's or 11's hypsi? i have alot more in my car, and i'm not gonna be that fast... but i prolly spent less getting my car, i payed 1600 for my car.
how much can i spend b4 i'm even w/ your car+parts price?
Hey sorry for the late post.... Servers are shitty. Anyway, my faster runs are in the low 11's but my avrage is about 11.60 something. It all depends on what fuel I am runnning.
I don't know how much it would take for your car to be where mine is at right now. I would guess 5-6k by the time you are said and done with all of it
how much can i spend b4 i'm even w/ your car+parts price?
Hey sorry for the late post.... Servers are shitty. Anyway, my faster runs are in the low 11's but my avrage is about 11.60 something. It all depends on what fuel I am runnning.
I don't know how much it would take for your car to be where mine is at right now. I would guess 5-6k by the time you are said and done with all of it
Nevilleb
08-01-2004, 05:04 PM
This is great: if any of you doofuses were into boating, you would recognize this "thing" as a bilge ventilation blower. It is rated at 145 cfm, and retails for about $26. An "electric turbocharger" - what a hoot!
SphinXX
08-02-2004, 01:04 AM
Why don't you buy a 120mm computer case fan and tape it to your intake... it should have to same effect... which is zero.
sykotic1
08-02-2004, 12:14 PM
few things dont connect, unless any of you have actually tried it on your car, you cant say nothin. second, unless you know exactly who its made by and that it is exactly the same thing you cant compare it to anything else. id just like to see one of you really try this thing, and do some before and after dynos, i dont know if it would work at all, but it would be interesting no?
DiabloGT
08-02-2004, 12:19 PM
few things dont connect, unless any of you have actually tried it on your car, you cant say nothin. second, unless you know exactly who its made by and that it is exactly the same thing you cant compare it to anything else. id just like to see one of you really try this thing, and do some before and after dynos, i dont know if it would work at all, but it would be interesting no?
no it wouldnt be interesting, unless if you wanna waste $70 and see if it works?
no it wouldnt be interesting, unless if you wanna waste $70 and see if it works?
1992RS
08-02-2004, 01:32 PM
I'll take you Hypsi. We all know what'll happen there. But I've spent a hellova lot of money on my car to get in the 10's Anyway, why do these companies try to rip people off by selling shit they know doens't work, at least I hope they know it doesn't work or they would be more dumb than the suckers who buy it. Jeez o pete.
1986Z28
08-03-2004, 03:33 PM
i dont think it would work because ive seen one and they dont put out very much air
LS1MAN
01-31-2005, 09:27 AM
if you buy 6, you could put one on each of your cylinders. and then you could buy 6 more and hook them up in parallel to increase the watts, so that they spin really fast, and then you could hook your AC up to your air intake, so that you could blow cold air into your intake also, and then you could just take your hood off also, and ride around like that to decrease the weight of the vehicle. and why don't you throw a few gas saving tornadoes into your intake hoses also, that might help.
it looks like to me, the more the merrier.
it looks like to me, the more the merrier.
LT1MAN
01-31-2005, 10:16 AM
if you want to pull some SERIOUS power from a v8 you have to spend some money. if you want to pull some SERIOUS power from a v6 your gonna have to spend a hell of a lot of money just to make it as strong as a v8. why do people buy these v6 camaros and mustangs and try to hook them up and make them fast? i dont get it. might as well get a ricer and get some good gas milage and slap a fart pipe on it with some blue headlight bulbs and roll out. im not bashin v6 camaros but if you want that thing to be fast your gonna really have to fork it out. free mods only get you so far and theres no miracle to and enormous amount of power for cheap like an "electrocharger". you can make a cold air intake, grab some headers and pipes all the way back and you'll be at a good starting point.
who went back in time and put this in this forum, i dont know where it came from but i type that quote above a really long time ago,
and sure ill race hypsi, i aint scared, we all need a good ass beating every once in a while to keep us humble, besides LS1MAN is "faster" than me he needs it worse.
who went back in time and put this in this forum, i dont know where it came from but i type that quote above a really long time ago,
and sure ill race hypsi, i aint scared, we all need a good ass beating every once in a while to keep us humble, besides LS1MAN is "faster" than me he needs it worse.
Hypsi87
01-31-2005, 04:08 PM
ok, People were told not to bring up old posts, usually that does not mean go to page 8 or where ever this post was and dig it up. LS1 man, you have done this more than once, one week vacation for you. When you come back, you can either play by the rules or not be here at all. simple as that, I am a pretty ez going guy but please don't push my buttons.
Any more old threads brought up will have the same results
Any more old threads brought up will have the same results
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