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How can I improve the performance of my escort


[iV]Kermit
07-26-2004, 10:49 PM
How can I improve the performance of my escort

I already have a K&N air filter but are there any other modifications that I can do to improve the performance on my:

97' 90k 1.4l escort, it's a manual

I bought it from a rebuild auction for about $2000

vette_7t9
07-27-2004, 07:37 AM
this a european escort? no 1.4s over here in north america

Jet-Lee
07-27-2004, 08:39 AM
take off your intake silencer (under your airbox)

[iV]Kermit
07-27-2004, 11:39 PM
take off your intake silencer (under your airbox)


How do I do this and what will it do?

zx2srdotnet
07-28-2004, 12:17 AM
let smore air in and lets teh ca breath better, minor gasand performance gain cant tell you how to since i have never sen a 1.4l

Jet-Lee
07-28-2004, 10:22 AM
Kermit']How do I do this and what will it do?
Not quite sure how to do it on a 1.4L, never heard of that before. I got a 2.0L and the silencer box is underneath the air filter housing.

[iV]Kermit
07-29-2004, 09:25 PM
You haven't seen the 1.4 because it doesn't exsist. I made a mistake and actually have a 2.0L

[iV]Kermit
07-29-2004, 09:27 PM
let smore air in and lets teh ca breath better, minor gasand performance gain cant tell you how to since i have never sen a 1.4l

Where is the Air Box I'm not seeing it in my Haynes manual.

Jet-Lee
07-30-2004, 08:27 AM
You know where your air filter is? That kind of rounded conical deal that the filter sitsi in? Pull that big plasitc piece off, the you will see another box below it. 2 screw pulls this out. I'll get pics of it from home later tonight and post on Monday for ya.

[iV]Kermit
07-30-2004, 12:59 PM
Okay.

BackseatJesus
08-01-2004, 02:22 AM
It's the lower and upper air resonators, kinda looks like a gallon of milk... Yes there are two, at least in mine...

Jet-Lee
08-04-2004, 10:11 AM
here is the Air Intake Silencer
http://files.automotiveforums.com/gallery/watermark.php?file=/500/168909IntakeSilencer1.jpg

and

http://files.automotiveforums.com/gallery/watermark.php?file=/500/168909IntakeSilencer2.jpg

here is where it is

http://files.automotiveforums.com/gallery/watermark.php?file=/500/168909IntakeSilencer3.jpg

Hodo
08-04-2004, 07:35 PM
The next major thing you can do for a 2.0L Zetec is replace the WHOLE exhaust system, from the head back, get a high flow catylitic converter. and a cat back exhaust system everything will be able to get the exhaust out better. Also a larger throttle body, Ford performance makes a decent one. And a new Head, Gude performance makes a decent Turbo kit for it and a decent N/A head kit for it. Good luck.

Willskyline
08-07-2004, 11:13 AM
Here's what I've done in the past:
Ignition and Performance electronics:
-adjustable fuel mixture controller_allows you to adjust the fuel curve for varying conditions
-upgraded spark plugs and wires
-custom chip_performance chips can improve horspower and torque
-ignition system

Intake and induction:
-high flow air filter_I know you already have this, but you might consider a cone filter and ceramic intake tube
- high flow fuel filter_more fuel = more power
- forced induction_everyone loves a supercharger or turbocharger. Please don't forget that you have an economic car, not a sports car. The escort is intended for little horsepower and good gas milage. I would suggest running no more than 6 to 8 pounds of boost. I feel obligated to explain this so: Since normal atmospheric pressure is about 14.7 psi at sea level, another 50% of air can theoretically give you about 50% more power, but expect 30% to 40%. The key difference between the turbo and super is its power supply. Something has to supply power to compress the air. The supercharger has a belt that connects directly to the engine, the same way that the water pump and the alternator gets power. A turbocharger gets its power from the exhaust. Your exhaust runs through a turbine, which turns the compressor on the turbo.

Exhaust:
-ceramic or stainless headers (4-2-1 for your car DO NOT GO 4-1)
-performance muffler
-performance resonator
-performance catalytic convertor
-cat-back syste_basically a strait pipe from the cat to theend of the exhaust

Cam and Valve train:
-high performance ztec camshafts
-vavle spring and retainer set
-high performance can drive gears

Transmission and Drivetrain:
-short shifter
-shifter bushings_takes the rubbery feel out of the shifter and allows you to really shift the gears
-high performance clutch
high performance pressure plate set

Underdrive pullys and misc.
-perfrormance underdrive pulley_50% for race and 25% for street
-performance pressure evacuation system_uses the exhaust to create a vacume to relieve the pressure from the crankcase
-performance gauges_thermostats, tachometer, and other gauges help you monitor your engine better
-port and polish_this will reduce air resistance by polishing the unnecessary level difference inside a port.

This is not a complete list, but this is all i know that is available for escorts. There are other parts made for other cars that can be modified to fit the escort, but this list seemed pretty well rounded to me.
If you are looking for a very simple normal way to modify your car, most people usually do intake, headers, and exhaust. This will give yoy a hp gain that you can feel. *REMEMBER* plan how you want your car after you complete all modifications, then start building. A lot of people mess up because they add this and that as they please. I would also sugggest consulting a trustworthy mechanic.
If you have any questions, my AIM sn is willravel, I'll tell you what I can
Have a good one.

Willskyline
08-11-2004, 12:31 PM
The reason I didn't mention things like an intake manifold or nitrous oxide systems: i can't find an intake manifold for the escort. Also, I think that even a small shot of nitrous into the relativly weak engine of an escort would be a serious mistake. You will ruin your engine so quickly that it wouldn't be worth the effort. That is unless you get an engine swap.

jeffescortlx
08-11-2004, 04:24 PM
The reason I didn't mention things like an intake manifold or nitrous oxide systems: i can't find an intake manifold for the escort. Also, I think that even a small shot of nitrous into the relativly weak engine of an escort would be a serious mistake. You will ruin your engine so quickly that it wouldn't be worth the effort. That is unless you get an engine swap.
Where did you here this crap?
There has been several ppl running a 75 shot with a stock SOHC Escort motor. And I know of a few ppl making around 300hp with mostly stock internal's with a turbo. I my self am running 8psi to a 100% stock Escort motor.

Willskyline
08-11-2004, 09:13 PM
8 psi and a 50 shot of nos are very different stories. I DID NOT SAY IT WAS IMPOSSIBLE. What I said was: "I think even a small shot of nos...will ruin you engine so quickly that it wouldn't be wirth the effort. I wouldn't expect more than 25k to 30k miles out of a new SOHC that runs nos regularly. If you'd like to argue with that, I suggest you spend 4 years studying automotive technology at a college level just as I have. I didn't 'hear this crap', I learned it from experience. I'm surprised that you didn't choose to quote my info on forced induction, where I suggested not going too far above 8 psi. You were very quick to ignore that. If you beleive that nitrous is so safe, go right ahead and install some.

jeffescortlx
08-12-2004, 02:21 PM
8 psi and a 50 shot of nos are very different stories. I DID NOT SAY IT WAS IMPOSSIBLE. What I said was: "I think even a small shot of nos...will ruin you engine so quickly that it wouldn't be wirth the effort. I wouldn't expect more than 25k to 30k miles out of a new SOHC that runs nos regularly. If you'd like to argue with that, I suggest you spend 4 years studying automotive technology at a college level just as I have. I didn't 'hear this crap', I learned it from experience. I'm surprised that you didn't choose to quote my info on forced induction, where I suggested not going too far above 8 psi. You were very quick to ignore that. If you beleive that nitrous is so safe, go right ahead and install some.

For some one who spent 4 year studying automotive technology, you should know better.
You sound like a 15 year old that just got done wacthing "The fast and Furious"-" You'll blow your self up with that much naazz!".

8psi and a 50 shot really is'nt that much different. Just two different way's to make power by adding Oxygen.

It's not the "psi" that kill's motors, it's the tune. One person could destroy his motor with 5 psi while another run's 12psi with no problems.
It's all about AFR and ignition timing.
Just because it's a "escort motor" does'nt mean it's weak.

Jet-Lee
08-12-2004, 02:24 PM
hey Jeff, to run your 8 psi, what mods did you have to make to the engine, I mean tuning wise. I understand parts needed for the turbo, but other than that, did you do anything?

jeffescortlx
08-12-2004, 02:39 PM
hey Jeff, to run your 8 psi, what mods did you have to make to the engine, I mean tuning wise. I understand parts needed for the turbo, but other than that, did you do anything?
The motor it's self is completely stock as is the ignition also (minus colder plug's). But to support 8psi you need good fuel managment and run high pump gas. Mine is also intercooled.
Thats really about it. I went a bit over board with the fuel, but better safe than sorry.

You need to understand what deto (ping) is what to listen for.

Jet-Lee
08-12-2004, 03:09 PM
good fuel management - like those fuel/air ratio computers that plug into your ECU?

is deto the same thing as knock?

Willskyline
08-12-2004, 04:58 PM
Wow, a fast/furious joke. I'm glad you're up to speed in the world of theatrical satire. You wanna try a 'where's the beef' joke, too? To be honest, no one over 15 probably watched the fast/furious movies. You don't need to try and put someone down before you try and correct them. That being said, we all know that psi and nos are similar in that they supply more oxygen. BUT, while nitrous adds just nirtogen and oxygen, forced induction for example pushes more of everything into the engine (including CO2 etc.). Nitrous brings more power to the actual force that the fuel air mixture gives off at the point of ignition. Escort motors, while of normal strength in comparison to other economy cars, are certianly not engineered to accept many aftermarket modifications. MY POINT was simply to help the person who created this post to get a slight gain in power. If someone wants to add nitrous or whatever else, go right ahead. And it's not JUST 'the tune' that kills motors. *REMEMBER* we are talking about a person who only has an air filter. That's it. If he wants hp gain he can simply do what every ricer knows: intake, headers, exhaust. I made the list in case he wanted more options. As someone who spent $2000 for his car, I'd expect he'd want somethign simple that didn't require a lot of money or expertise.
Don't ruin forums by just going post to post trying to start fights. This is supposed to help people and bring together enthusiests.

jeffescortlx
08-12-2004, 05:10 PM
If you dont want me to "ruin" the Fourm, then dont go around saying:
Quote:
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Originally Posted by Willskyline
... "I think that even a small shot of nitrous into the relativly weak engine of an escort would be a serious mistake. You will ruin your engine so quickly that it wouldn't be worth the effort."

Your the one giving out mis-information. How many Escort's have you turbo'd or giving the juice to?

Jet-Lee
08-13-2004, 08:09 AM
Will, I'm sidin with Jeff on this one, though I don't know as much mechanics as the two of you, I know enough to know that your full of shit. Not in all aspects, but most, and your gettin pissy cause your being proven wrong. Accept the fact, and move on.

Willskyline
08-15-2004, 05:24 PM
I posted my opinion. I didn't call people names or say that anyone else was wrong. While you do know your stuff, our opinions differ on this subject. Did you read the rest of the original post? I hope you did. I had a ton of great information there. Actually, I do have experience with both forced induction and nitrous. I suppose it is possible I am a little jaded because of a few really bad experiences with nitrous, but even without that experience my thoughts wouldn't change. My bottom line suggestion to the person who made this thread is to contact your mechanic before doing modifications to any part of your engine if you have little or no experience with automotive modifications.

You need to understand that different mechanics do have different opinions on things. Both can be right or one can be wrong or both can be wrong. I've been doing this for years. I myself admit that there are certainly going to be cases that escort engines will run just fine with nitrous or a host of other modifications. A ‘97 escort, such as the one owned by the person who started this thread, probably has over 80k miles, probably over 100k. What I was trying to say in the post is that an engine with 80k to 100k miles would de better with a standard CAI, lifters, cam, port and polish, headers, exhaust kind of deal. No one can disagree with that. As for the NOS, it is a judgment call. I know this is probably falling on Jeff’s deaf ears, but on the chance that there is someone who's reading this objectively, I want it to be known that nitrous is MORE dangerous, and more serious that the previously mentioned mods. That’s not unreasonable. I’m not full of shit. I’m not giving mis-information. I’m not a 15 year old that just watched that stupid fast and furious movie.

I am simply someone who loves cars, and enjoys sharing my love of cars with others. I am also someone who prides myself on my knowledge. This is my final response to Jeff.

RyanJ
10-21-2004, 04:00 AM
I thought this was a discussion forum not a place to trhow useless insults while arguing with eachother eachother?!

Jet-Lee
10-21-2004, 02:04 PM
dude, this has been dead for 2 months.

quaddriver
10-22-2004, 12:52 AM
Kermit']How can I improve the performance of my escort


Trade it in?

Willskyline
10-22-2004, 01:09 AM
Trade it in?
... hahaha ...

mdm1789
10-23-2004, 06:16 PM
The next major thing you can do for a 2.0L Zetec is replace the WHOLE exhaust system, from the head back, get a high flow catylitic converter. and a cat back exhaust system everything will be able to get the exhaust out better. Also a larger throttle body, Ford performance makes a decent one. And a new Head, Gude performance makes a decent Turbo kit for it and a decent N/A head kit for it. Good luck.


Anything you know to do for a 1997 scort w 2.0 sohc

Just trying to gather tips , mine is paid for and I can mess it up all I want

Can not find much stuff for 2.0 spi sohc it is all geared towards zetec 2.0

Any tips and or help is appreicated :banghead:


mdm1789

jeffescortlx
10-23-2004, 09:51 PM
Anything you know to do for a 1997 scort w 2.0 sohc

Just trying to gather tips , mine is paid for and I can mess it up all I want

Can not find much stuff for 2.0 spi sohc it is all geared towards zetec 2.0

Any tips and or help is appreicated :banghead:


mdm1789


I ran a 14.5@95mph with a 97 SPI motor. :)
http://www.cardomain.com/id/jeffescortlx

Snow93
10-24-2004, 07:13 PM
as far as running nos thorugh an engine goes im all for it with the proper metering system so that you dont blow it to hell like many people seem to. Nos can be benifital and extremaly deadly to a car engine. An engine regularly running nos even stock will go a hell of alot logner then 30-60k miles if properly metered and tuned and maintained (just periodical maintnace for example will make a car greatly surpass 300k km).. and i intend to add nos along with possibly a turbo or super installed but after some mechanical upgrads such as the pistons, rods, valves, possibly the head, and cams and silicon sleeves.
Its a 93 1.9L SOHC SPFI with 250+ K KM's on it most of you probly wouldnt even think its woth fixing up but hell if i can drag more horse power and torque from it then a newer engine with tighter emition controls and such then im all for upgrades. quaddriver worst thin you can do is mock or insult someones car specialy if they intend to sink some money into it to improve it.

Now what i wanted to ask was can a actual compresser be riged to an intake to provide compression as to reduce strain and loss of hp/torque on mechanical components of vechile? (this with dual batteries, and dual charging alternator along with a capacitor)

quaddriver
10-25-2004, 11:32 AM
as far as running nos thorugh an engine goes im all for it with the proper metering system so that you dont blow it to hell like many people seem to. Nos can be benifital and extremaly deadly to a car engine. An engine regularly running nos even stock will go a hell of alot logner then 30-60k miles if properly metered and tuned and maintained (just periodical maintnace for example will make a car greatly surpass 300k km).. and i intend to add nos along with possibly a turbo or super installed but after some mechanical upgrads such as the pistons, rods, valves, possibly the head, and cams and silicon sleeves.
Its a 93 1.9L SOHC SPFI with 250+ K KM's on it most of you probly wouldnt even think its woth fixing up but hell if i can drag more horse power and torque from it then a newer engine with tighter emition controls and such then im all for upgrades. quaddriver worst thin you can do is mock or insult someones car specialy if they intend to sink some money into it to improve it.

Now what i wanted to ask was can a actual compresser be riged to an intake to provide compression as to reduce strain and loss of hp/torque on mechanical components of vechile? (this with dual batteries, and dual charging alternator along with a capacitor)

yikes.

methinks vehicle mods should take a back seat to spelling/grammar for some, but thats just my opinion.





(yes I know it is in poor taste to pick on the presentation of internet postings. Heckfire, I even suffer typos of the grandest order. But damn, at least TRY.)

Snow93
10-26-2004, 03:07 PM
Hey if you dont like my spelling or grammer-talk to my english teacher. SO becous my english in writen form is not great-would you mind prehaps correcting it or if you cant stand such a challenge would you be so kind as to get the fuck off my back? -thank you kindly-

zx2srdotnet
10-26-2004, 09:10 PM
kinda petty when your only argument is with his grammer

Snow93
10-26-2004, 09:41 PM
Hmm.. to true.

quaddriver
10-26-2004, 11:10 PM
kinda petty when your only argument is with his grammer

yep, and I even said so.

but at the same time, if we have a nation of people old enough to DRIVE, but thier text needs deciphered....what intake to use on the ole escort SHOULD drop to the back burner.

Like I said, at least TRY.

Snow93
10-27-2004, 07:33 AM
do me a favour quad dont be an ass. I realy like these forms-it would be a shame to ruin them with this sort of petty argument over grammer of all things (this is a form for cars afterall). And its likly caus i basicly told ya to shut up when it comes to mocking/insulting peoples cars. I realy like escorts so thats my opionon. now.. as i said. Fuck Off.

As far as the intake or what ever part droping to the back? this is what i want to do with my life. Automotive Tec. Only way to get anywere is to get experiance.

Jet-Lee
10-27-2004, 03:45 PM
yep, and I even said so.

but at the same time, if we have a natoin of people old enough to DRIVE, but thier text needs deciphered....what intake to use on the ole escort SHOULD drop to the back burner.

Like I said, at least TRY.

backoff, you aint so perfect yourself

Snow93
10-27-2004, 08:27 PM
anyways.. back to cars if yall dont mind... is it possible to generate ruond 12 PSI extra for the intake without mechanical upgrades (ie no super/turbo charger) ? And if so.. how could this be achived?

quaddriver
10-27-2004, 08:52 PM
backoff, you aint so perfect yourself

well, as I said:

Heckfire, I even suffer typos of the grandest order

however, how you got this:

but at the same time, if we have a natoin of people old enough to DRIVE, but thier text needs deciphered....what intake to use on the ole escort SHOULD drop to the back burner

from this:

but at the same time, if we have a nation of people old enough to DRIVE, but thier text needs deciphered....what intake to use on the ole escort SHOULD drop to the back burner

Is beyond me.

You only got me on one typo btw. Thought I should point that out. ;-)

jeffescortlx
10-27-2004, 10:21 PM
anyways.. back to cars if yall dont mind... is it possible to generate ruond 12 PSI extra for the intake without mechanical upgrades (ie no super/turbo charger) ? And if so.. how could this be achived?
No.
Turbo's/Superchargers "pump" or make boost. With out one, you cant make boost.

Snow93
10-28-2004, 02:48 PM
no offense me man buts thats BS. Good example is high compression fans used on the intake of some deisel trucks gives them bout 6 extra PSI. But what im talken bout if for a gas engine.. now theres always moe then one way to rise the psi in the manifold.. so thers got to be some way to rig somethin up for +12psi without charger.
(an average compresser pumps 100 psi for example way to mcuh)

Snow93
10-28-2004, 02:51 PM
quaddriver my man.. i know my english aint good. I know my spelling and my grammer aint good. Thats no reason to point it out on a bloody form thats for cars. Not English. Cars. Now if you cant realise that then well.. you aint right and if it makes you feel like abig man to insult me then you aint right in the head.

vette_7t9
10-28-2004, 03:57 PM
this is a car forum, snow is right. it doesnt matter how u spell or say stuff, its the point of what you say that matters. just like rice vs. nice, looks is nothing, performance is everything. how you spell VTECH is not important.

jeffescortlx
10-28-2004, 05:50 PM
no offense me man buts thats BS. Good example is high compression fans used on the intake of some deisel trucks gives them bout 6 extra PSI. But what im talken bout if for a gas engine.. now theres always moe then one way to rise the psi in the manifold.. so thers got to be some way to rig somethin up for +12psi without charger.
(an average compresser pumps 100 psi for example way to mcuh)
The "fan's on some desiel trucks" would be called a turbo. There is no magic "fan" to make 12 or even 6 psi.
There are your popular "ebay" fans the make about .00001 psi of boost. Then there is the "Eram" for $300 you can have 1psi, oh woopy doo.
Then there is the Nights electric super charger, after a few thousands dollars spent for the kit, batterys and high output alternater you can have shorts bursts of boost, might as well get N20.
So that leaves Turbo's and superchargers.

Snow93
10-28-2004, 05:52 PM
meh.. ill find a way then. far as fans go-tahts what me father was tellin me so i guess he was wrong ah well.

Snow93
10-29-2004, 02:49 PM
high capacidy varible compresser.. as low as 10psi.. if i were to rig that to just before the MAS(well would probly have to upgrade it first..) would it work?

Jet-Lee
10-29-2004, 02:54 PM
don't think so. Seein as different parts of the engine run off vacuum...you need somewhere that creates vacuum. If you use a compressor and compress the air in the intake, you do the exact opposite. I think you'd have a better chance runnin NOS than your compressor setup.

jeffescortlx
10-29-2004, 03:18 PM
high capacidy varible compresser
Care to tell me what your talking about? Find it on google and drop a link for us to look at it. Chances are, it wont work, if it did every one and there grandma would have one.

Snow93
10-29-2004, 03:44 PM
hey even if it wont work its worth givin it a shot-why not cant hurt, well tomuch. Its basicly a compresser that operates at high rpms and can move a high volume of air in a short period of time. Differnce is you can set the pressure limits inwich it will operate.. say you have a regual shop compresser bout 100PSI (stores mroe then that), comes on when it falls below 100psi same thing as this. But ya gotta consider the vaccum thing to... hmm.. (dont have the money for NOS, or Turbo.. ill work with what i got first)

Snow93
10-29-2004, 05:48 PM
hey.. quick question.. how exactly on a 93 escort is vaccum generated.. sence you were referign to the compression of the manifold. But what i mean id only run such a thing after the vechile would have statred therefore it would not remain pressurised even a milisecond.. the vaccum would still exist.

Roccer
10-29-2004, 07:47 PM
Hey! I like the your illustrations of the intake filter and its location. You wouldn't happen to have a pic of the location of the OSS sensor (Speed Control Sensor) for a '99 Ford Taurus? You wouldn't beleive the locations I've been given. I haven't found it yet.
-Roccer

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