Bush v.s. Kerry

Im just wondering if there were any Bush fans out there. im not for 1. all i hear about is how much people are not gonna vote for bush, but then i see the stats and its says its an even split. i have never heard from 1 person to tell me their opposing point of view. if there are any bush voters out there post in your opinions and tell me why you would still vote for bush. thanx.

I'd vote for Kerry. I hate Bush, and that's my primary reason. Oh, and Kerry has a good name. And did I mention that he's very much in favor of teachers and particularly females in math and science-related fields?

At this point in time I have no idea. Still undecided.

neither both suck. death to both i say. plus this should prolly be in the ploitical forum. i vote nader or de la rocha

Nader is the only one with a decent abortion standing, but he's still a tree-hugging bastard, so since I want a Hemi Magnum, he's out.

I don't like Kerry, but he's not as dumb as Bush.

Bush is an idiot and Kerry can't be trusted. Not so sure if I will vote Nader, I havent heard about him enough, but if I had to choose today he would get my vote.

Nader, cause the other two are :newbie:s

Welcome to Bush vs Kerry, a continuing series of posts asking for votes between the two major candidates. Be here with us next week for the next installment of the same poll.


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we need more choices. I aint votin for neither

I, too, want more attractive women in the science industry.

Nader is the only one with a decent abortion standing, but he's still a tree-hugging bastard, so since I want a Hemi Magnum, he's out.

I don't like Kerry, but he's not as dumb as Bush.

true, but nader would LEGALIZE IT

Not sure. neither one has struck a cord. I watched the speech with clinton tonight, which was ok, but I still want to know more about WHAT kerry's main agenda will be...

I grew up with politics in the family, but I am still uncertain just what repub & Dem stand for with their points of views. That would probally be because my pops was a STRONG Repub & any debate otherwise was grounds for arguments, so I nicked politics out and turned a blind eye.

SO, if someone can explain simply what both stand for, then great.

SO, if someone can explain simply what both stand for, then great.

I don't think it'd be a good idea for someone to explain these things to you, as opposed to you trying to decipher them yourself.

If people explained it you, they'll be passing-on their particular bias towards or against any particular party, along with the rest of their explanation.

Here:
http://www.gop.com/About/GOPHistory/Default.aspx
http://www.democrats.org/about/history.html

Have fun.

http://www.votenader.org/issues/index_home.php

Just to keep it even :icon16:

I'm all for a three-party election, but in this specific election, a vote for Nader is a vote for Bush. The right is unified, the left is split. Ironically, if you vote for a pot-smoking tree-hugger, you'll most CERTAINLY end up with a blundering, oil-crazy, keen on jesus hee-haw ecosystem rapist.

Hell, I watched T.H. Kerry's DNC speech last night. Kerry's wife seems more worldly and intelligent than the current President himself...

I wish the people on here who say they would vote for Nader would actually do it. The problem is that Game theory is at work here so no one will do what they feel is best.

I would vote for him but they won't let him on the ballot here. I think it's a cheap shot for the Kerry people to try and stop him from being on the ballot.
Cowards.

Fuck Kerry! He's against the war....I'm all for the war.

Fuck Bush! He's against gay marriage....We, as humans, do not have the right to decide who others want to spend their lives with.

Fuck Nader! He's a damn tree-hugger.
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Wish I could take my poll vote back (Bush)

I would vote for him but they won't let him on the ballot here. I think it's a cheap shot for the Kerry people to try and stop him from being on the ballot.
Cowards.

Thank the Republicans for petitioning to get Nader on the ballot in several areas. Now why would they do that, do you think? :biggrin:

Fuck Kerry! He's against the war....I'm all for the war.

Fuck Bush! He's against gay marriage....We, as humans, do not have the right to decide who others want to spend their lives with.

Fuck Nader! He's a damn tree-hugger.
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Wish I could take my poll vote back (Bush)

kerry changed his mind after he was elected to run for office, now he is for the war

kerry changed his mind after he was elected to run for office, now he is for the war

Ah yes, John Kerry:

Pro-war, anti-gay marriage, pro-Sharon, not a word on the PATRIOT Act or Guantanamo Baby... BUT HE'S A LIBERAL!

... somehow. Ah well. Maybe he'll balance the budget.

kerry changed his mind after he was elected to run for office, now he is for the war

I don't recall Kerry ever being against the war, I remember him voting for the war... The democrats made a weak protest for a while that the inspectors should be given more time, but they still voted to invade.

Dean was the one against the war, remember?

I don't recall Kerry ever being against the war, I remember him voting for the war... The democrats made a weak protest for a while that the inspectors should be given more time, but they still voted to invade.

Dean was the one against the war, remember?

so was kerry, aka huge liar, that was what his whole campaign was based around earlier this year, he won, now hes for the war

Thank the Republicans for petitioning to get Nader on the ballot in several areas. Now why would they do that, do you think? :biggrin:Because they believe in being fair.

























Joke

I'm going to vote Nader, but only because Kerry is most definately going to carry my home state (Mass) and I believe in supporting the green party.

if you vote for a pot-smoking tree-hugger, you'll most CERTAINLY end up with a blundering, oil-crazy, keen on jesus hee-haw ecosystem rapist.

so was kerry, aka huge liar, that was what his whole campaign was based around earlier this year, he won, now hes for the war

I think it's quite hypocritical that you call Kerry a huge liar, and can actually support Bush with a straight face. I know I wouldn't be able to. :cwm27:

If you'll notice, the only time he said he was against the war was when he explained that he was against the way Bush went to war, instead of taking the time to let the inspectors gather some proof, and then build a multinational coallition to invade, Bush simply invaded, and now Iraq is a mess because of it.

I think it's quite hypocritical that you call Kerry a huge liar, and can actually support Bush with a straight face. I know I wouldn't be able to. :cwm27:

If you'll notice, the only time he said he was against the war was when he explained that he was against the way Bush went to war, instead of taking the time to let the inspectors gather some proof, and then build a multinational coallition to invade, Bush simply invaded, and now Iraq is a mess because of it.

dude i live in america, i had to hear kerry's lies everyday. i know what he argued about. and who said im for bush? i cant stand bush. read my first post on this page

dude i live in america, i had to hear kerry's lies everyday. i know what he argued about. and who said im for bush? i cant stand bush. read my first post on this page

Then you have my sincerest apologies, I made a mistake. Actually, I should have been able to tell you're not pro-Bush because you don't have a large anti-Kerry pic in your sig. :icon16:

I view Kerry as the lesser of two evils, although not by much. I much more prefer the Clinton/Kerry Democrat corporate whoring over the Bush corporate whoring, mostly over foreign policy decisions, really. I don't live in the US, so trade policies and foreign policy matters concern me quite a bit more than "the moral fibre" of the candidate.

Bush. Kerry is way (& I mean WAY) too far to the left. Any temporary leanings towards the center are very temporary.

The war on terror, Yes we took the war to them, not waiting for them to bring it here again.

Gun owners rights. Come on, who is gonna help with this???

Veterans war history means a LOT to liberals all of a sudden. Before Kerry, it mattered zip to all libs.

Hey, I like Laura, don't like Teresa.

I'm tired of typing..........Work on my Jeep.

Hope I didn't make anyone mad, these are just my opinion!

P.S. VOTE BUSH

kerry is winning in the poll muhahahhahah


ps wheres the 3rd party option

kerry is winning in the poll muhahahhahah


ps wheres the 3rd party option

This poll means shit, just like the rest of the polls on here. In the end only the election means anything. And the Bush supporters are getting tired of voting in poll after poll.

Vote Nader go ahead it improves Bush's chances. We all know Nader has no chance in hell of winning, he's only going to detract from Kerry.

Nader is the only one with a decent abortion standing, but he's still a tree-hugging bastard, so since I want a Hemi Magnum, he's out.Oh....You like murdering unborn children?
I don't like Kerry, but he's not as dumb as Bush.You need to learn the real definition of dumb.

But then even IF you were right...Bush is the far better choice. At least he isn't a lying liberal bastard.

...Bush is the far better choice. At least he isn't a lying liberal bastard.

LMAO

You might want to re-think that.

Bush HAS lied, as evidenced by the fact that more than 50% of the American voting public in most major polls has given feedback that he has at the minimum, "massaged" the truth - even those that are staunchly Republican.

As for the "Liberal" part, Bush has been one of the most liberal President's we've had, money-wise, or at the minimum, he has been irresponsible with our money.

Your narrow-minded fanaticism about your preferred candidate is ugly.

How about for once (as Yogs would say about the "other side"), you show support by bringing your candidate's issues up front, instead of bashing the other side?

Of course, Yogs would claim that Bush-bashing is all-too-rampant in here, which is true to a point. See, Bush is the one that is giving his bashers the material - and they're usually directly related to him as a person, and/or as a President.

I'll be starting a thread, discussing the above...Here (http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=272673).

Your narrow-minded fanaticism about your preferred candidate is ugly.
uh...pot....kettle.

Sheesh!

hang on,I thought I was the pot?

Make your mind up,gladhatter,you are flipflopping worse than Kerry.

But at leadst he's not that asshole Bush.....

uh...pot....kettle.

Sheesh!

I see.

Well, feel free to quote whatever post I have made, where I have blindly praised Kerry, as you have, with Bush.

Go ahead. I challenge you.

I don't do anything blindly as the Kerry fanatics do. I won't stoop to your nonsense as you have no interest in accepting anything contrary to you left-slanted bias. I will admit that I would NEVER vote for a democrat, and there is ONE reason for that. I could never support ANYONE affiliated with a party who is not opposed to murdering unborn children. Other than that I will also admit that there are democrats who have had decent things to add...but they still would support abortion. THAT is a biggie. If a person doesn't care about killing the unborn....I have no use for them.

I don't do anything blindly as the Kerry fanatics do. I won't stoop to your nonsense as you have no interest in accepting anything contrary to you left-slanted bias.


Really, I have yet to see any Kerry fanatics, rather, I see people who are saying that would vote for whoever the other candidate is, simply because he isn't Bush.

Left slanted bias? Describe a few facets of Carrrnuttt's politics which are left leaning. Back up your slights with some substance. Remember, I'm the socialist here!
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I will admit that I would NEVER vote for a democrat, and there is ONE reason for that. I could never support ANYONE affiliated with a party who is not opposed to murdering unborn children. Other than that I will also admit that there are democrats who have had decent things to add...but they still would support abortion. THAT is a biggie. If a person doesn't care about killing the unborn....I have no use for them.

Great, that's your personal opinion. It isn't mine, I'm for abortion. I think if you don't agree with it, fine, don't use the service, but you have no right to bar someone else from it. I know a great many girls who have had kids young, and are now single moms, and are trapped. Those kids are going to be forced to live a life of poverty, and are never going to have the chances that they deserve. The odds of a kid coming from a poor single parent family and not having at least one serious personality disorder are pretty slim, I know this for a fact.

Personal opinion has nothing to do with murder. You kill someone...you have murdered. If young women wish to NOT be single mothers...they should keep their legs together until they are ready to be parents.

BTW EVERYTHING Carrnutt posts is a liberal slam at Bush. It probably isn't so much pro Kerry as anti bush. But his hatred stems from his love of McCain, and even McCain supports Bush. I don't get it. I see no need to be specific. ...and ANYBODY can cut and paste from his favorite partisan website. The libs think it is fine...if those on the right wish to do it...it is INSTANTLY discounted as right wing rhetoric.

Actually my beef is partly with the lack of respect for our president. I guess the non Americns should be able to say what they want...but why? I would (generally) never diss anyone elses president/prime minister/king etc. ('cept maybe them french bastards)

BTW EVERYTHING Carrnutt posts is a liberal slam at Bush.Really? Here's a search of all 100+ posts I have put in here: http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/search.php?searchid=471088

Oops...WRONG.

Again, I helped vote our current President in, and thus, have the right to criticize his performance, as any citizen does, and even more.I see no need to be specific. ...and ANYBODY can cut and paste from his favorite partisan website.Alright, walk your talk, "studmuffin"...I have had 22+ views to this thread (http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=272673), and no replies. I have no idea why, but my guess is, the presentation of it takes a lot of emotionalism, and posturing out of the political debate - or at least I'd like to think so - and loudmouthed blowhards like you, can't thrive in that situation.

Anyhow, I challenge you to make a at least a semi-intelligent reply in that thread, in support of your candidate, and in defense against the criticisms against him - all without sounding like the fanatical, extremely narrow-minded, posturer that you are.

BTW, everything on that first post in the thread I linked to, was thought-out, and typed-out, by me.Actually my beef is partly with the lack of respect for our president. I guess the non Americns should be able to say what they want...but why? I would (generally) never diss anyone elses president/prime minister/king etc. ('cept maybe them french bastards)Maybe you need to read up some more, before you assume another thing about somebody you have no clue about:
http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=2045929&postcount=4

And don't even start that respect/President correlation, as I'm sure you were just as vile as you are now, if not more so, towards Clinton, when he was your sitting Commander-in-Chief.

Really? Here's a search of all 100+ posts I have put in here: http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/search.php?searchid=471088

Oops...WRONG. gee what might you used as a key word in your search?

....Alright, walk your talk, "studmuffin"...I have had 22+ views to this thread (http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=272673), and no replies. I have no idea why, Probably because it would be a genuine waste of time. You are just looking for an internet pissing contest. Why beg people to go to YOUR thread? You will NOT graciously accept any opinions other than your own.
...loudmouthed blowhards like you, can't thrive in that situation. If you can dish it you should certainly be able to take it.
BTW, everything on that first post in the thread I linked to, was thought-out, and typed-out, by me. Good for you! Night classes seem to be working out for you. Maybe you'll continue to strive to do better.

Great, that's your personal opinion. It isn't mine, I'm for abortion. I think if you don't agree with it, fine, don't use the service, but you have no right to bar someone else from it.
Don't make me pay for it either. The problem is that the government makes me pay for the ones that can't afford to pay for it themselves.

I know a great many girls who have had kids young, and are now single moms, and are trapped. Those kids are going to be forced to live a life of poverty, and are never going to have the chances that they deserve. The odds of a kid coming from a poor single parent family and not having at least one serious personality disorder are pretty slim, I know this for a fact.
So they are better off dead. ?????????????

Great, that's your personal opinion. It isn't mine, I'm for abortion. I think if you don't agree with it, fine, don't use the service, but you have no right to bar someone else from it. I know a great many girls who have had kids young, and are now single moms, and are trapped. Those kids are going to be forced to live a life of poverty, and are never going to have the chances that they deserve. The odds of a kid coming from a poor single parent family and not having at least one serious personality disorder are pretty slim, I know this for a fact.

How is abortion different than killing someone who is alive?

Those girls who had kids young were not trapped, they were selfish. They could have given their baby up for adoption and given it a better life. But you know why they dont? Because they know the government will send them their welfare check every month, and their brand new medicaid card every year.

The thread has taken a turn to abortion. A fine debate in itself, but not where the thread started.

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