Mustang vs GTP

1998 stock GTP vs. 2000 stock Mustang 5.0...who wins?

If Gtp And 5.0 Are Stock The Gtp Wins

gtp will take the jump but the 5.0 will pull the lead, of course that's my opinion and every race depends on a lot of unmentioned factors....

bah, 5.0 died in 95 i think, from then on it was 4.sux

2000 5.0L????... did you mean 2000 4.6L?
But, anyway the GTP Wins!

Mustangs, Pintos that mike noise.

Make that "make". (Fingers too big.)

Thanks guys!

Lets get real guys.. A 2000 Mustang GT will stomp all over a GTP.. Stock for stock..

Lets get real guys.. A 2000 Mustang GT will stomp all over a GTP.. Stock for stock..


no way a 2000 rusttang wil not stomp a gtp, it might win but the gtp will make that rusttang work for it.

no way a 2000 rusttang wil not stomp a gtp, it might win but the gtp will make that rusttang work for it.

I bought a brand new 1987 Mustang GT... It ran 14.41 at 97 mph with 2.73 gears.. The only mod was a K&N air filter.. The 2000 Stangs are faster than that, from the factory..

My 02 GTP is quick, but it's front wheel drive doesn't allow real hard starts.. And no way does it come around the Mustang in the middle.. Also, my 87 was magazine tested to top out around 140+ mph.. It came with V rated Goodyear Gatorback tires, so there was no 125 mph govenor on it, like on the GTP's..

the top speed doesnt matter if ur racing in the q/t mile -cus there is no way in fuck a mustang or gtp will be gettin up to it even with mods you'll be lucky to see 120... plus mustangs are dogs - loud an slow - i used to smoke stangs with 302's in em with my 1990 shelby daytona turbo charged 2.5L 4 banger unless less there like fuckin blow or some put some serious rich time in the mustang they will not beat a gtp.... my girlfriend has one an even the se models are pretty hoppy but they wouldnt.... i spank mustangs an vets with my 93 stealth an its funny cause almost everytime i have seen them cause they went to the same destination as me --- an they are like DUDE! whats in there- i am like stock 320 hp to the ground 317lb ft.trq to the ground - twin turbo/intercooled , all wheel drive , all wheel steering... but dude mustangs are not what everone says about them they are not super fast an all that bs .... i have even beat 2 cobras an a 04 mach 1 an a 72 mach 1 04 , i have raced one saleen and killed him on rt. 80 in jersey sounded like his car was gonna blow the fuck up an i didnt even need to leave 3 gear, my friend owns the 72 mach an i piss on him even if i give him a 2-3+ head start an from rolling you can forget it - an i have never lost to a mustang they stuggle harder than u think .... i would put 10/1 on a gtp over a mustange any day.... lighter, faster throttle response, better handling by far, an strong pull at 60-70 - so think what ya want man if ya like em so much go buy a new stang an sell your gtp,,, sounds like u wanna like them more...... laters

I don't think he like Mustangs much.

nah dude - they get more gratitude than they deserve as it is, an everyone i see has a chick in it its turned into a girly car, they get more props than they deserve - they are not all that .... :wink: Laters Everyone!

I think I can answer this one right now guys. I purchased a 04 GTP Comp G last week when my Grand am was totaled by a big rig. Yesterday I pulled up next to guy with a 02 Mustang Cobra and we decided to run light to light (app 3/4 of a mile). When it was all said and done with I blew the doors off that POS rustang.

P.S. My GTP is bone stock as of right now and he had a borla cat-back and some headman headers on his.

An 02 Mustang Cobra is a 13 second machine, right off the showroom floor.. Your Comp G is about 130 hp short and 200 lbs to heavy to think about running with a Cobra.. And you're front wheel drive to boot.. Maybe his was dogged out, or maybe he couldn't drive, or maybe he wasn't trying to really beat you..

I love Grand Prix's.. My 02 GTP is my third one.. I've owned a 69 Model SJ and a 78 Model SJ.. Bought brand new.. They are my fovorite street machine.. But, I AM A MUSTANG RACER.. I won the World Ford Challenge here in St Louis, a couple of years ago.. My 87 street stang runs 11.6's at 120 in the quarter, on street tires (drag radials) with A/C, stereo, and passes emissions..

I have a bud that use to run a Stealth.. We were really competative.. Several neck and neck races.. But he was running 24 lbs of boost with a larger turbo, plus nitrous oxide.. He couldn't keep transmissions in the car.. Although I am impressed that the motor held up with what he was dishing out..

I realize this is a Grand Prix site.. And that you're going to get a lot of bragging about the prowness of Grand Prix's.. But if you take statements like what I've read, to a Mustang board.. You'd probably be laughed off the site or more than likely ignored.. No one would seriously feel a stock frontwheel drive Grand Prix, would want to drag race a stock performance Mustang..

Read the paragraph below, and then if anyone believes a Comp G has anything on a 2002 Cobra... Let me know..


2002 Ford Mustang (continued)


Driving Impressions
The Cobra's 4.6-liter, dohc modular V8 is equipped with an Eaton supercharger providing 8 pounds of boost, plus an intercooler to keep things cool, and it is tuned very differently from the regular Mustang GT engine. It produces 390 horsepower at 6000 rpm, with 390 pounds-feet of torque at 3500 rpm, while the GT engine is rated at 260 horsepower at 5250 rpm and 302 foot-pounds at 4000. That's a huge difference of 22 percent more power in an already quick and fast car (electronically limited to 155 mph but capable of close to 180 mph). The Cobra's engine uses a cast-iron block for long-term durability, with new pistons and connecting rods to cope with the superchager boost, and uses an aluminum flywheel and driveshaft to offset some of the weight of the iron block.

The Cobra offers acceleration on a par with cars costing twice as much, with 0-60 times in less than 5 seconds flat, a maneuver you can do at every stoplight.

I don't think anyone will win this one. I drive a GTP with "a little" done to it. I will run anything on the road. I'm not saying that I will win every race. But I know "I can", till I see someone tail lights going buy me. Haven't run a Cobra yet. But, I've run a lot of Mustangs. They do look good in my MIRRORS.
The only way you will know, is when YOU race any car yourself.
Have fun out there.

hmmm, a gtp whoopin an 02 cobra? me and my friends sho have whooped gtp's before... not a chance of beatin an 02 cobra unless the guy didnt know how to drive or it was a v6 with cobra badges... dont get me wrong, i like gtps but they are far from perfect, so far they havent had the best dependability record... ("Rustangs" may not be best the cars in the world but at least they dont fall apart right off the showroom floor) and they only come in auto, cause they werent geared for serious racing, just to be fun daily drivers...

I don't believe the gtp beat a cobra either but a sho can be beaten , those things are junk, they run stock mid to low 15's with the 3.2 or 3.0 24valve.

I love my gtp, and it certainly has some great potential. It slips into the 13's easily with some mods, but come on people.

In 99 the Mustang GT got the upgraded 4.6, with 260hp, and 300+ lb ft of torque. This is in a vehicle with an almost identical weight to the 97-03 gtps. The mags all pulled 14 flat with the autos and a few manual cars touched the high 13's. We on the other hand are usually all 14.5+ cars at best stock. Even keeping the anything happens on the street philosophy, unless you jumped on him first, or he missed a gear, or had a fat chick in the passenger seat, or something....he should have taken you. Even the Comp G's dont have an advantage stock for stock because the new model put on like 100+ lbs.

And the Cobra story was just silly.....

no way a gtp could ever beat a cobra. I raced a mustang gt with my now retired '99 gtp, and it was neck and neck until i started pulling ahead slowly after about 50mph. still though, it was close.

The 2000 mustang gt is a formitabel foe for the Gtp. A raced one at the track (it was a 99 or 98). It was stick shift and gave me a run for my money in my 98 gtp with intake and 3.4 pulley. I won two out of three but only by .02 seconds and .06 seconds. The difference between a win between the tow stockers is if the mustang is auto or maual. Plus there is the whole driver prowes factor.

The 97-03GT rustangs are not all the same. The converts are slower than the hardtops, and the autos are slower than the manuals.

The best I have ever seen at the track stock was a 14.4s

Here's my Rustang.. Bought it brand new in 87, and it only has 50,000 mile on it now.. And it ran 11.6's at 120 just the way it sets, with a 1.69 sixty foot time.. On the dyno it made 486 ft lbs of torque at the wheels, at only 2600 rpms.. I can play with most "fast" street machines..Short shifting 1st, 2nd and 3rd, then burn rubber from 40 mph and just walk away.. Now it's getting an 850 hp Dart block 383 ci turbo setup.. For even MORE fun..

If you want to go fast..Get yourself a Mustang.. Save your GTP for high profile cruising..

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My car sucks, not only is it slow but it also is a pontiac.
I wish I got a Rustang 2003 Cobra.

Tell ya what, when the 05's come out I hope they drop the prices or offer some sweet deals on 03 cobras. If they do and I can get a 03 Cobra for $300 a month, which is what I pay for the GP, then say goodbye to the GP.

Tired of putting money into this car. Time for my first muscle car. Maybe a GTO or Cobra

Get the Cobra.

get the gto.

nah dude - they get more gratitude than they deserve as it is, an everyone i see has a chick in it its turned into a girly car, they get more props than they deserve - they are not all that .... :wink: Laters Everyone!

Lately down here on the coast of MS I've seen Mustangs "riced out" as we call it down here. Basically how Asians here take Civics and kit it out and put a coffee can and cold air intake on it. Well now people are doing that with stangs. Putting a big nasty wing on the back that weighs like 50 lbs. and a body kit/skirt all around it and paint it a pastel color such as baby blue or yellow.

Tired of putting money into this car. Time for my first muscle car. Maybe a GTO or Cobra


dont you think that youll still have to put a good deal of money into them?

dont you think that youll still have to put a good deal of money into them?

That's true..But I'll bet that with the money he has spent on his GTP, he could have a muscle car that runs in the 10's possibly the 9's.. A truely viciously accelerating car..

Most everyone has heard about someone that has a car that accelerates so hard, that they could put a 20 dollar bill on the dash, and you couldn't reach it if you tried.. Well I've ridden in cars that makes you wonder if a top fueler could keep up.. Just pin you in the seat like you wouldn't believe.. And the acceleration never lets up.. Now THAT is a ride..

OK, let's end this. Everyone look and your keys. If it says Ford on them, YOUR car is the fastest. If it says Pontiac on them YOUR car is the fastest. Now that should stop this.
Oh, by the way; I blow the doors off a Mustang GT on the way home from work today.
Damn, I think I started it again.
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Ok a 2000 Mustang GT definently wont beat a GTP stock for stock because i've raced a 2000 Mustang GT in my GTP and beat him. It was a good race yeah, but i had it

That's true..But I'll bet that with the money he has spent on his GTP, he could have a muscle car that runs in the 10's

very good point, i guess i took it to mean he was tierd of all the little things that have gone wrong w/ his gtp. A good number of people seem to have this complaint, but i donno. i have a gtp w/ 93k and the only money thats ever been put in it for maintenance is 180 bucks to replace a few of tha rotors. And gas an oil of course.

Get the GTO, and then go to www.lingenfelter.com and put more horsepower to your GTO... (450HP+ package)

There are many Cobra's... get the Cobra and smoke some Cobras...

Think about it...!!

correction, get the GTO and smoke some Cobra's...

jeje...

Anything that has gone wrong w/ this car has been directly linked to racing it. What Jeff said is what I was getting at. For the same cash I spent on this car to hit 12.9 I could probably be a second or 2 faster a GTO/Cobra.

I was looking at vettes on autotrader and shit I could get an older (97+) decent mileage vetter cheaper then the cobra or gto.

nice. pics etcetera if you go through wit it

Whatever you go with... Do it with a "power adder".. Supercharger, turbocharger, or nitrous.. That way you can go mild on the motor and still have hellaious power.. Your drivability will be excellent, and if you do your homework, it will still pass emissions..

Since I'm into Mustangs I'm kind of partial to them.. And to have a 500 or 600 horsepower street car, is really not a big deal.. Especially if you go something like an intercooled turbo setup.. With a 331 ci stroker motor, with about 8.5 compression.. With a T70 or so turbo you can have a car that runs 130 + mph in the quarter.. On pump gas.. And just having an idea of the kind of person you are, and your mechanical ability and want to go fast.. You'll probably be going faster than that.. Just do your homework before you dive in..

Check out some of these turbo Stangs.. Ignor the full race ones, unless you want to go there :biggrin: ...
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I have a 99 GTP, and I have a race against a 02 mustang GT which I beleive is stock...besides the exhuast. He claims he put a chip in it.. and has a supercharger.. but I think he is all talk. One of those guys you can't really beleive... I'll let you guys know how it turns out. This race is for $100.

The mods I have on my GTP are.. lowered suspension, 1 size upgraded pully to the supercharger... and thats pretty much it.

Who's gunna win!? hehe

I have a 99 GTP, and I have a race against a 02 mustang GT which I beleive is stock...besides the exhuast. He claims he put a chip in it.. and has a supercharger.. but I think he is all talk. One of those guys you can't really beleive... I'll let you guys know how it turns out. This race is for $100.

The mods I have on my GTP are.. lowered suspension, 1 size upgraded pully to the supercharger... and thats pretty much it.

Who's gunna win!? hehe

If he truly has a performance "chip" and a supercharger......walk away, walk away now, cause you're gonna lose your $100.

I love my GTP. It's a great car in spite of it's minor interior rattles. With mods, mine is considerably faster than it was stock. BUT.....unless he cooks the tires or kills it off the line, or misses a shift, a "chipped, supercharged 4.6L is gonna hand you your ass.

Find out from his buddies if he's bluffing.

I have a lot of good things to say about the GTP. Even with all the mods I have, I'm going to lose to a supercharged V8 Mustang. Now a good race would be the GTO and the Cobra. GTO by 2 cars in a 1/4. Save your Money.
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I hear this guy cant drive either.. cant shift worth shit.. so I might have this one.. definately should have it if he is stock.

Man, I used to LOVE Mustangs, but after getting my GTP, ( i test drove a 04 Mustang GT) there is no way I would ever go back to my fondnes for the Stang.

kustomkid54, I Like your ride man.

Yeah same here, I used to love mustangs to until I got this GTP :)

who ever has that rt tt stealth i envy you damn them things are fast i drove a 1992 and instantly fell if love with it i couldnt get the tires to squeak a bit even on a paved curvy road. any way im looking at doing the engine swap from a 2004 gtp into my 1995 gtp total sleeper style no big wheels nothing that blings just my system and exhaust. id buy the 1992 i dove but i cant afford the insurance on a stealth their like a class 23. i got beat buy a 2001 mustang gt but remember that thats a rear wheel drive v8 with better weight transfer and i still lost by on half a cars length with my 1995 gtp with the 3.4 DOHC so my point is that yeah mustangs arent all their bragged to be thats for sure! and i also agree that their getting to me more of a womans car kinda like a mazda miata how many guys do u know of that drive one of them? lol. stangs suck.

KX2000GTP, Thanks. May have to sell her soon. Wife says I have too many. Now can anyone out there say that you can have TOO many cars?
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A stock cobra will definetly beat a stock GTP. I know that by doing a few mods, a gtp can beat a cobra. As for a Mustang GT, a stock GTP will beat the 94-98, but from 99-04 the GTP should lose, unless maybe the Mustang is an automatic.

a stock 04 cobra has 390 hp. what few mods will make a gtp keep up w/ this, cause i would put them on my gt in a second?

a stock 04 cobra has 390 hp. what few mods will make a gtp keep up w/ this, cause i would put them on my gt in a second?


it's a few mods for a GTP, not a GT, but if you want to keep up with one, here is some stuff you could do. this guy beat one with 1.9 Rockers, ported manifolds, Open Cone (BLEH), custom exhaust, 3.25" Pulley, 3" downpipe, but I don't think that one was supercharged. another guy beat a 93 cobra with these mods: IC/2.8/ZZP Stage 4 SC/VS Cam/SLP Hdr
K&N/HV TB/DHP & ICCU/I-R LSD/ & Stuff. I don't know what the & stuff is, but I do know the cobra ran 13.7 in the 1/4, but it is also not supercharged. If you want to look for these yourself, go over to clubgp.com and on the forum look up racing stories. Usually you can find some cobras going down and you can read the mods he ( the gp) has.

it's a few mods for a GTP, not a GT, but if you want to keep up with one, here is some stuff you could do. this guy beat one with 1.9 Rockers, ported manifolds, Open Cone (BLEH), custom exhaust, 3.25" Pulley, 3" downpipe, but I don't think that one was supercharged. another guy beat a 93 cobra with these mods: IC/2.8/ZZP Stage 4 SC/VS Cam/SLP Hdr
K&N/HV TB/DHP & ICCU/I-R LSD/ & Stuff. I don't know what the & stuff is, but I do know the cobra ran 13.7 in the 1/4, but it is also not supercharged. If you want to look for these yourself, go over to clubgp.com and on the forum look up racing stories. Usually you can find some cobras going down and you can read the mods he ( the gp) has.

Cobras are fun to beat. I have raced a few 03s+04s but have not yet taken one down. My best attempt was a 13.3 to the guy's 13.1. He had intake and exhaust work done. I have seen them run 13.5-13.6 but just have never lined up against one that got a bad run. :icon16:

Cobras are fun to beat. I have raced a few 03s+04s but have not yet taken one down. My best attempt was a 13.3 to the guy's 13.1. He had intake and exhaust work done. I have seen them run 13.5-13.6 but just have never lined up against one that got a bad run. :icon16:

I beat a 2003 stock Cobra with a rebuilt '86 nissan 300zx. The only thing I did was rebuild the engine, put a new turbo kit, and removed the catalytic converter. I ran a 10:3

I beat a 2003 stock Cobra with a rebuilt '86 nissan 300zx. The only thing I did was rebuild the engine, put a new turbo kit, and removed the catalytic converter. I ran a 10:3
I'd like to see a time slip please. There are a lot of BSer's out there, so I'm sure you can understand my asking.

I agree with JAWS. I want to see the slip. You'd have to do a lot to a Nissan 300zx to make them run low 13's. LOW 10's, that's a lot of "rice".
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Oh come now. All he had to do was install a Flux Capacitor on the Nissan. Once he got to 88 miles per hour, he just went forward in time like, 3-4 seconds.

Doc Brown's Auto Shoppe can provide quotes for easy installation.

Now that's funny.
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I have a 96 Mustang GT and a friend has a 99 GTP. Both bone stock with AT and my Mustang whipped him. The 96 Mustang was really underpowered @ 210 HP compared to the GTs and Cobras now.

Oh come now. All he had to do was install a Flux Capacitor on the Nissan. Once he got to 88 miles per hour, he just went forward in time like, 3-4 seconds.

Doc Brown's Auto Shoppe can provide quotes for easy installation.

LMAO... funny shit indeed

I beat a 2003 stock Cobra with a rebuilt '86 nissan 300zx. The only thing I did was rebuild the engine, put a new turbo kit, and removed the catalytic converter. I ran a 10:3.

i love how it's "all" he did was rebuild the engine and put a new turbo in it. shit for all we know that could be a $15k+ investment. i think slip verification is def. in order

at the track about a month ago there was a totaly stock mustang gt 5 speed 03, made about 12 runs that night, his best was 14.8xx w/ a good driver the stock gtps should do 14.8-14.9.