The School System

BeforeI begin it is 4:22AM and I am 14 years old, so with put aside.
Here is what i have to say, there are major flaws in the school system of which the students of the United States of America are being brought up upon.
One of the worst and most horrid to myself is the fact of the form of math of which they are exposing us to. They are doing more than feding us information to simply memorize and store in th eback of our brains until we need it again. Now what they need to do is simply teach us logic. It would not be that hard to teach and it will help learn reasoning and how to be able to use our brains to do something useful than just storage.
Next on the list of problems is what they are showing us Wolrd History/Geography/Civics/ or what ever you wish to call it. They are giving us more and more facts that will simply be put in storage. When what they should be showing us, instead of the many pointless wars that have happened, how to be leaders. How to take control, maintain control, and how to go about doing them in the most effective and efficient ways possivle to better benifit all those around you.
Well, this is going on very long. Next up is this useless class that they force you to take, Grammar. I can understand teaching us how to comprehend what we percieve going on around us in the world that is great. But to sit there and tell us that one day we will have to sit there and pick apart a sentence and lie to us to make us do it, that is wrong and completely useless. Also they are teaching us how to come to conclusons and find the meaning of thing simply by what is around it, that is genius. It is funny, they tell you that what they are teaching you is English, when it is in fact nothing more than a bastardized version of the language that doesn't even follow the rules that you are forced to learn.
Hey, it is time for science. Eh, it's cool they at lest teachyou something in thsis class. How to be organized simply by classiffing be taits of similarities or even some absurd catagory such as chemicals not to mix together.(Don't make this catagory, something bad will happen, first hand expirence.) They also teach you what makes up everything around you from the smallest grain of sand to the largest mountain, it is all atoms.
Also I believe they should bring back aprenticeships. These at the very least teaches you a trade that you can either take with you or continue in use and further where you originaly acquired it. Along with teaching a person discipline, work ethic, and the effect that a job can have on your life and the lives that you affect.
Well, that is all for now. Read it if you will, scrollit if you won't. Have a good day, This is Speed Racer and it is now 4:50 time for me turn it over to the groovy sounds of the soul playing with your mind while you sleep. :evillol: :2cents:

stopped reading after the second line..spend a few more years in school and you start to pick up on why theyre teaching you all this. because your a male at 14 (hopeing your not homoexual) this should be important, when you grow up girls are impressed with people who are smart. at least the ones who dropped out to be strippers. (no offense to strippers)

I'm not gonna read that huge blob of information... all I will say is that xtreme has a point that as you get older you understand why they teach you some things...

although I will also say a lot of things in the school system are flawed





oh, and college is over rated so don't go(unless your wanna be like a doctor or lawyer)

I actually read the whole post. Speed, you are getting ahead of yourself. You are still learning the basics right now. It's like the foundation of a building, you are learning fundamental knowledge, which will be very handy in the future.
College and university is where they mostly teach you the tools required to think and function in an intellegent and effective way. But these tools are based on what you are learning now.
Be grateful you have the opportunity to learn all this now. The world has far too many astoundingly ignorant people. Just don't become one of them.

Logic is something you have to teach yourself.
My only problem with History, is that I had to learn about WWII and the holocaust EVERY F'N year from fourth grade through tenth grade! To the point were I almost didn't give damn about it anymore. There's more to history than Nazis you know! We didn't even discuss Japan's role ever, except for the fact that they bombed Pearl Harbour, and that we blew them up with Atom Bombs.
Anyway, school is basically a combination of forced labour with no actual point, and a daycare service paid for by the government.
If you want to learn, go to the library, and educate yourself - one of the few practical things you've learned from school is how to read, after that it's all downhill until college. Do yourself a favour and READ.

oh, and college is over rated so don't go(unless your wanna be like a doctor or lawyer)

just to point that out once more...

why pay to learn a bunch of stuff when you can read about it yourself? then you only have to do what your interested in or what you need... half the crap you get is pointless but you still have to pay thousands of dollars for it...

college isn't for everyone, and I'm deffinately not everyone

just to point that out once more...

why pay to learn a bunch of stuff when you can read about it yourself? then you only have to do what your interested in or what you need... half the crap you get is pointless but you still have to pay thousands of dollars for it...

college isn't for everyone, and I'm deffinately not everyone

Sure, college is not for everyone, but let Speed find out for himself.

Soyo, have you even been to college? If not, then why advise against it?

I had a career before college (office clerk and auto mechanic) and a career after college/university. Trust me, the career after college is much better.
If one is reasonably bright, one can choose a rewarding career path which will give you more money, more financial freedom and more career options than without. There are throusands of potential careers that are eliminated from your future without a college education.

PAce yourself. Speed racer you are racing, before the race even begins. School sucks for some, but for others it is great.

College is for some and it is not. As you move on in years, you will see why things are the way they are. Then, it is up to you to decide what is useful and what is not.

That little piece of paper makes a difference, so get it. Even if it is just paper..... Everything revolves around politics, so learn the basics of the game, then move on..

argh...not going to college when your able to is stupid to me. why miss out when all your gonna do is work in a factory without goin. if you dont want to go its your problem your the lazy one. not getting the grades in high school is your problem. dont tell him college is over-rated because people like you say that becaus you missed your chance

As for college, I guess it's really isn't for everyone...but I urge people to give it a try anyways.

As for learning everything on your own without getting a formal college education: it's nice if you can do it, but if you want a job in whatever you studied, many places are gonna want to see that little piece of paper the colleges give you...a degree.

As for the information you learn in high school...you'll use more of it than you think after you graduate.

As you move on in years, you will see why things are the way they are.
I'll break it to you now. School is a daycare center for older children, and it's designed to keep you from doing anything productive with your time. Especially high school. If you want to be educated, you have to educate yourself.

Speed Racer


The things you describe, do lead to a purpose. Have faith in the system, it's all they have.

Where i agree is in much of the mathematics. 4 years ago when i was in high school i showed my Grandfather (a well educated retired man) my mathematics homework. What i was doing there in math class, my Grandfather had not seen until his 3rd year of physics in college.

Do they fill your head with mindless information, well to be perfectly honest most of the time they are. But the reason it's mindless, is because most people only will use 25% of it in their chosen career.

The system wants to give the biggest, best base of all-round everything so you have a heads-up as to how it ALL works.

So despite the fact that you probably won't use 75% of it again, wether you go to college or go to the work force, it'll be there.

I'm approaching my 3rd year of college, i've not looked at Permutations or Combinations since high school. I absolutely hated doing them, but i'm now actually using those basic formulas in Statistical Analysis as part of my business and marketing degree.

"...there is a time to every purpose under heaven..."

In summary, respect the system because you'll understand once it's over and done with why you learned the 'useless' crap you did. I thought it was quite useless myself, but it's all coming back. It sounds like mindless jargon i know, but take the free advice of a man who's not much further ahead of you, that it DOES end up making sense.

Good luck to you.

4:50-4:22=28 minutes. I could have written a three page paper in the amount of time it took you to write that post because I stuck it out through school and although I never stopped complaining I never quit.

lamehonda

So much for my inspirational speech eh? :grinyes: Just buggin ya!

I just graduated from high school and I hated all of my classes. Honestly the only reason I went to a single day of my senior year was to socialize. The thing that I'm noticing is that I'm starting to use some of the things I learned in 8th grade at work. It's really sad that an 8th grader could to my job, but atleast it looks good for the store to have somone a little older doing it. Speed Racer-I can totally see where you're coming from school does suck for the most part. But just try to make the most of that little part that doesn't suck. Also try and pick some classes that interest you. I took some classes as a sophmore that I just found out yesterday counted as college credit so I have to do less work in college.

oh, and college is over rated so don't go(unless your wanna be like a doctor or lawyer)

That's a great thing to say to a 14 year old.:rolleyes: College, believe it or not, gives you the opportunity to get more jobs than you would have available without it. Granted, you are correct, not everyone is meant to go to college, but that doesn't mean it's a waste to go. I don't know how I would get into my field of study as a profession if I didn't have some college (which I will soon be attending, in about 3 weeks). The fact is, maybe YOU aren't fit for college, but that's not to say this kid isn't.

I know what your saying... but a lot of people go to college just because thats what it seems like they should do, and then end up not needing it at all for what they do or not finishing or whatever...

but like I said some jobs require it or pay better if you have it... but hes 14, he'll forget I said that before hes a junior in highschool :)

Well for the most part I have to agree with Speed Racer. The school system today is just giving us information, not teaching us how to use that information. If people were taught how to think, then the US as a whole would certainly be better off

The purpose of going to school has always been about learning how to think. School teaches you what happens under certain influences, however it does not teach you why these things happen under those influences. Just because you know that if you put an electrical current through water to create hydrogen and oxygen does not mean that you can use this information for anything. At my school they never fully explained why this happens.

English, no matter how pointless it seems, is an important class. In it you learn how to properly communicate, and it teaches you how to write effectively so that you can adequately explain yourself through literature. Our English classes at this point however do not always teach us what we need to know. Almost anybody who can speak english can form a proper sentence, so sentence diagrams are pretty much useless unless you are planning to go into english studies in college. What they need to teach people is how to properly express themselves through their writings.

History in my humble opinion is one of the few classes in High school that should be required all four years. Don't misunderstand that however, because I agree with anyone who says that we focus too much on a certain country, war, and/or time period. History lets us know where our ancestors screwed up, and if we know what they did then hopefully history will not repeat itself.

Mathematics is extremely important, and in my experience you use a great deal of what you learn in that class in real life. So as far as math goes just deal with it and come out knowing all that you can. If you dont want to learn advanced calculous then just take a different class.

About the debate about college that got started up now, just suck it up and go when you have an opportunity to. College isn't so much about learning anymore as it is about having a name on your resume. By going to college you will have oportunities for better paying jobs, and will ultimately have a happier life.

I agree with most of you on the whole part about how school teaches you the basics for life and all, but I have also seen the higher truth. They are teaching you to be a worker for the system. NOT a leader, but I can stretch that to the actual teachers who teach outside the system. You are working for the school. My school gets $35 per head that shows up at school, everyday, from the government. The students, working about 7 hour days get no money, but they do get an 'education'. Except the thing that bugs me is the fact that you are forced to go to your 'job'.

I left school at 16 because I disagreed with the system so much, that I hated it with a passion. Its like its own little government under a government. I wasn't going to give them the authority to use MY time to their advantage. I was going to learn what I wanted to learn and work on what I wanted to work and that is that. This is my life.

They are teaching you to be a worker for the system. NOT a leader, but I can stretch that to the actual teachers who teach outside the system. You are working for the school.

Who is teching me to be a worker for what system? I hear this sort of argument all the time from people who have dropped out of school, not from people who actually stick it out.

It's hard to see in high school, but you are taught a wide range of subjects to broaden your perspective on the world. It's not about memorizin information, it's about learning how to think. I could care less if you remember how to take the second derivative of a curve, but learning the process teaches you how to solve problems and apply knowledge you have accrued to the real world.

If you can just stick it out, you will eventually see the light at the end of the tunnel. You will come out better prepared for the working world and, more importantly, life in general, and will not regret having stayed in school. I can promise that.

u guys shouldnt bring up a 2 week old thread,but i'm no mod so go for it. :)

Does school teach you how to become a boss? No. As for learning about problem solving, I was the top 2% in the US. and I saw the problem quite clearly.

Who is teching me to be a worker for what system? I hear this sort of argument all the time from people who have dropped out of school, not from people who actually stick it out.

I'm gonna be a senior this year(I start on the 17th :( ) and I am sticking it out and I will agree that you are being taught how to work within the system. I also think it is a horrible decission to drop out of highschool... although I don't think I will ever use 75% of what I learn, I know that my chances of getting a job drop big time without a diploma

oh and I still think college is over rated... its just one more way for people to get into debt these days...

I'm gonna be a senior this year(I start on the 17th :( ) and I am sticking it out and I will agree that you are being taught how to work within the system. I also think it is a horrible decission to drop out of highschool... although I don't think I will ever use 75% of what I learn, I know that my chances of getting a job drop big time without a diploma

oh and I still think college is over rated... its just one more way for people to get into debt these days...

:agree: Soyo's right. We'd all like to throw the system to the wind, but it raring works. Remember, you may think swimming up stream is a good idea, and it may be, but there are people paid for no other reason than to shoot your ass down if you get out of line. And I'm not just talking about poilce, there are at least 3 goverment branches and a score of private company's out there. Soooooooooo, while you may have the truth in one hand and 2% of the population backing you up, remember two things; the truth don't mean shit and there are a hundred people ready to shoot you down to every 1 of you.