gsr vs SH
teg94
07-23-2004, 05:43 PM
My friends bro has a 98 prelude SH with a greddy exhaust i think .. i have a 94 gsr with dc header, cai, and H&R suspension, who do u think would win ??,,, i would just race him but my liscense is suspended..
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CivicSpoon
07-23-2004, 07:06 PM
He would win, because you can't legally drive your car .:evillol: It'd depend on who was the better driver. He's got around 20 (maybe more) hp than you but also weighs 300+lbs more. There's no way anyone could answer this question and be 100% correct. Wait till you get your license back, race him, then post it in the Street/track racing stories forum.
SpaceManSpiff
07-23-2004, 07:40 PM
I think it'd be a driver's race. Wait till you get your liscence back, then find out.
svang8
07-23-2004, 08:30 PM
i think the gsr because all preludes are slow..and my friend with the 98 gsr bone stock raced agaisn't one and beat it badly....and my friend with his 91 rx7 non turbo hung side by side with it....
SpaceManSpiff
07-23-2004, 09:02 PM
It was probably a non-vtec one. Vtec ludes are a slight bit faster (bone stock) than gs-rs are.
Ace$nyper
07-23-2004, 09:04 PM
neiter of you caues your sitting on the intardweb instead of racing
but least your smart enough not to race 0n suspensed liscene
but least your smart enough not to race 0n suspensed liscene
Kang114
07-23-2004, 09:42 PM
driver's race. mods r similar, 20hp vs.300lbs weight advantage. 1/4mile i cant say exactly. anything longer than 1/4 and prelude will start to pull...BTW when u race him, remember to take ur spare out(along with other little things), and run with about a half gallon left in tank. and if u have the chance, throw some paint cans, dumbbells, and bricks into his trunk. :wink:
SBallerk2
07-24-2004, 02:23 AM
DRIVER's RACE!!...but Long Run Lude will pull ahead of U...
b20crxsc
09-08-2004, 12:05 AM
fuck the prelude, preludes are slow as shit, just my opinion
rushb18
09-08-2004, 01:39 AM
195@7000 is the hp torque wa 156 @--- on type sh prelude and the integra gsr 94 has 170.0 bhp @ 7600 rpm and 128.0 ft lbs @ 6200 rpm ..The q-mile times are gsr--1994 Acura Integra GS-R 7.1 15.5..On the sh prelude i found a few times but that was on 00 models and there was a 5hp difference i think but they were 15.3 or some shit done forgot oh well..So yea it would depend on driver but if it was me i think you would get him...later..edit yea i just noticed this was a old thread oh well done typed all of this fuck it..
integralover
09-08-2004, 02:37 AM
well i raced an SH the other week, as far as i know he had an exhaust. but i stayed with him the whole way. so my car right now is as equally fast as that guys SH. and i don't have vtec
SBallerk2
09-08-2004, 03:48 PM
..hey guys...don't wanna start nothing...but I been on the market for a newer Car either a 3rd gen Teg or 5th Gen Lude maybe even again a 4th Gen Lude with a lot lower miles...anyways...I have come to think that the VTEC sounds and feels ALOT!!! STRONGER ON PRELUDE's...ex. I when to c two teggs last week both GSR's...bone stock (one had an intake) and a 5th Gen Lude BONE STOCK laddie driven (like most PRELUDE's) '97 by the way Tegg's had 101k and 76k Lude had 81k and well anyways while the cars R in park I hit the VTEC to actually c if the vtec is kicking it...rev both gsr well into the VTEC and heard LOUD SCREAMS!! but no where near my '94 Prelude VTEC SCREAM or the '97 Prelude (stick) rev them lil pass 7 and OMG that car just scream like it was about to KILL!! and no B/S gas peddal and car acutually shake like a lil MUSCLE CAR!! and well the TEG has kinda disppointed me so FAR...(haven't been able to acutually test drive a GSR or 5th Gen Prelude base or SH)but I was kinda waiting for that TEG to SHAKE LIKE THE PRELUDE...so my point is...can anyone explain THIS??
GUYS i'm not B/Sing!!!!
GUYS i'm not B/Sing!!!!
CivicSpoon
09-08-2004, 05:43 PM
It's because the prelude has a bigger motor in it, more hp and tq. If you think that sound of vtec and shaking was crazy; you should ride in a civic with a h22a swap. The sound is a lot louder in one and the whole car vibrates from just turning over the motor.
Xtreme_098
09-08-2004, 06:51 PM
The preludes my and my friend raced were fast off the line but we came back and killed them towards the end. I guess I should say we were in a eagle talon boostin 36 lbs....ITS ALL GOOD.. no lie about the 36 ft lbs of boost. People say it cant be dont but there is living proof. He has been awarded the number one customer at auto zone the past couple of months because he is in there every day fixin it.
knorwj
09-08-2004, 07:25 PM
..hey guys...don't wanna start nothing...
HAHAHA dumbest post ever! first of all you revved them up with out moving in PARK? as in automatic tranny? = no vtec. Now maybe I just read that wrong, but anyway if you weren'ty moving vtec will not engage.
VTEC does not just turn on and off at a certain rpm, it is dependant on a few variables,
1) Enigne speed: RPMs must be at or above the vtec activation point
2) Vehicle speed: you must be going forward at over 13 MPH
3) Engine coolant temp: You temp must be above 140 degrees F
4) Engine load this is judged my intake manifold negative pressure.
If all of these requirements are not met vtec will not turn on. so to sum that up yes you are BSing.
HAHAHA dumbest post ever! first of all you revved them up with out moving in PARK? as in automatic tranny? = no vtec. Now maybe I just read that wrong, but anyway if you weren'ty moving vtec will not engage.
VTEC does not just turn on and off at a certain rpm, it is dependant on a few variables,
1) Enigne speed: RPMs must be at or above the vtec activation point
2) Vehicle speed: you must be going forward at over 13 MPH
3) Engine coolant temp: You temp must be above 140 degrees F
4) Engine load this is judged my intake manifold negative pressure.
If all of these requirements are not met vtec will not turn on. so to sum that up yes you are BSing.
SiGNAL748
09-08-2004, 08:27 PM
while the cars R in park I hit the VTEC to actually c if the vtec is kicking it...rev both gsr well into the VTEC and heard LOUD SCREAMS!!
VTEC will NOT activate if your car's not moving. Theres something seriously wrong with your ECU or something if it is.
VTEC will NOT activate if your car's not moving. Theres something seriously wrong with your ECU or something if it is.
SBallerk2
09-08-2004, 11:49 PM
...hahaha...what the HELL...how R u going to telling me I'm lying... when I acutually OWN A PRELUDE...and have friend's with Si's and GSR's!!!
O.K. do this...park ur CAR!!....then leave it on..(leave ur car on Net. Not 1st!! just have the hand brake on!!) now let the gas GO and ur RPM should be at or around 1 right...punch it slightly to 3 4 and then punch it to 5,6,7 and u will hear and feel a different TONE!! call it what u want but it's a LOUDER and TONER sound then reving a None vtec lude or GSR!!....yeah go on and try it...if u don't feel anything then u my friend have something wrong with ur ECU/MOTOR!!!!(that's the sign of a fading VTECa and that's the reason I to this before acutually looking over a VTEC CAR that I may BUY) cause my VTEC kick's in like crazy even while i'm rolling on 1st saying from a stop light and i roll till around my rpm get's to 4 or so keep it rolling for a sec or two and then punch the gas pedal all the way and u have VTEC!!!YUP YUP if ur car doesn't do this either then man check ur ENGINE!!!
signal...know i'm starting to c y u might think prelude's can keep up with most racing car's!! "tho they can with a GOOD DRIVER LIKE ME :) " (learn how to hit the gears right and it'll be the GREATEST CHEAPEST UPGRADE!!)maybe ur VTEC isn't kicking IN..and to think...that I thought u acutually KNEW a lot about CAR's this only proffs u and the other buddi....KNOW NOTHING!! sorry don't wanna insult u guys but I think I just DID!!
O.K. do this...park ur CAR!!....then leave it on..(leave ur car on Net. Not 1st!! just have the hand brake on!!) now let the gas GO and ur RPM should be at or around 1 right...punch it slightly to 3 4 and then punch it to 5,6,7 and u will hear and feel a different TONE!! call it what u want but it's a LOUDER and TONER sound then reving a None vtec lude or GSR!!....yeah go on and try it...if u don't feel anything then u my friend have something wrong with ur ECU/MOTOR!!!!(that's the sign of a fading VTECa and that's the reason I to this before acutually looking over a VTEC CAR that I may BUY) cause my VTEC kick's in like crazy even while i'm rolling on 1st saying from a stop light and i roll till around my rpm get's to 4 or so keep it rolling for a sec or two and then punch the gas pedal all the way and u have VTEC!!!YUP YUP if ur car doesn't do this either then man check ur ENGINE!!!
signal...know i'm starting to c y u might think prelude's can keep up with most racing car's!! "tho they can with a GOOD DRIVER LIKE ME :) " (learn how to hit the gears right and it'll be the GREATEST CHEAPEST UPGRADE!!)maybe ur VTEC isn't kicking IN..and to think...that I thought u acutually KNEW a lot about CAR's this only proffs u and the other buddi....KNOW NOTHING!! sorry don't wanna insult u guys but I think I just DID!!
SBallerk2
09-08-2004, 11:53 PM
anyways...I'll end it there..I don't wanna start smack talking I just asked a question...and if u think I'm b/sing so be it...for those who know what I'm talking about...then please feel free to answer my question... :)
SiGNAL748
09-09-2004, 12:06 AM
how R u going to telling me I'm lying
Well First, I'm gonna click the "Reply w/Quote" button...then....
when I acutually OWN A PRELUDE...and have friend's with Si's and GSR's!!!
Funny, me too.
for those who know what I'm talking about
No, nobody knows what you're talking about. VTEC will only active under conditions where your car is moving forward at over 13mph (of many other conditions). Call Honda.
You may be mistaking it for your IAB valve activating. I'm not sure what conditions are required for it to open.
that's the sign of a fading VTEC
VTEC does not "fade"
and feel a different TONE
Ok, i need a poll on this one. How many people here can feel tone? The last time i checked, tone was associated with sound.
LOUDER and TONER sound
Can someone please tell me what a TONER sound is?
punch it slightly
That is an oxymoron
then u my friend
I am NOT your friend
and that's the reason I to this
Thats the reason you to what?
Where's jcrx when we need him?
Well First, I'm gonna click the "Reply w/Quote" button...then....
when I acutually OWN A PRELUDE...and have friend's with Si's and GSR's!!!
Funny, me too.
for those who know what I'm talking about
No, nobody knows what you're talking about. VTEC will only active under conditions where your car is moving forward at over 13mph (of many other conditions). Call Honda.
You may be mistaking it for your IAB valve activating. I'm not sure what conditions are required for it to open.
that's the sign of a fading VTEC
VTEC does not "fade"
and feel a different TONE
Ok, i need a poll on this one. How many people here can feel tone? The last time i checked, tone was associated with sound.
LOUDER and TONER sound
Can someone please tell me what a TONER sound is?
punch it slightly
That is an oxymoron
then u my friend
I am NOT your friend
and that's the reason I to this
Thats the reason you to what?
Where's jcrx when we need him?
Ace$nyper
09-09-2004, 12:15 AM
!! sorry don't wanna insult u guys but I think I just DID!!
your not insulting us just yourself.
do your self a stop posting your looking dumber by the word.
Speaking of words in the words of Strong Bad
SHUT THE CRAP UP!
your not insulting us just yourself.
do your self a stop posting your looking dumber by the word.
Speaking of words in the words of Strong Bad
SHUT THE CRAP UP!
DeleriousZ
09-09-2004, 12:24 AM
sballerk... do you even know how vtec works son? usually what happens when you rev an engine... it tends to get louder... you know.. just a thought. non-vtec gsr? uh.. no offence but, does your date of birth start with a 2?
vtec isn't some amazing 100hp shot of nitrus, it's just a change in the lobes on the cam... it doesn't make THAT much more hp... hell, in a stock car, it's just a slight change in sound and a bit stronger of a pull.. anyway... not to start smack talking... but i think i just did :rolleyes:
vtec isn't some amazing 100hp shot of nitrus, it's just a change in the lobes on the cam... it doesn't make THAT much more hp... hell, in a stock car, it's just a slight change in sound and a bit stronger of a pull.. anyway... not to start smack talking... but i think i just did :rolleyes:
knorwj
09-09-2004, 01:14 AM
Holy crap! haven't checked this thread in awhile hahahaha sballer... whatever= owned!. thanks for the heads up signal.
anyway man just go pick up any tech manual on a vtec honda it will tell you the same thing I did, vtec is controled by alot more than rpm. and the only difference that you hear is the fact that you are revving the shit out of your car which usually tends to make it louder and tone will change with rpm on any car vtec or not.
PS not the best idea to rev the shit out of your engine.
anyway man just go pick up any tech manual on a vtec honda it will tell you the same thing I did, vtec is controled by alot more than rpm. and the only difference that you hear is the fact that you are revving the shit out of your car which usually tends to make it louder and tone will change with rpm on any car vtec or not.
PS not the best idea to rev the shit out of your engine.
integralover
09-09-2004, 02:57 AM
the world is just flowing with stupidity today.:shakehead
SiGNAL748
09-09-2004, 04:30 PM
for some reason i doubt Sballerk2's gonna reply
SBallerk2
09-10-2004, 12:38 PM
hahahahaha unlike u old frats I acuttually have a life/job and was working all day 12 HOUR SHIFT!! which means I couldn't reply till today..anyways..whatever I c...u guys have done enough flamming....but that's O.K. cause I have a life behind this tread....also..damn 12 Hour shift then I get to ride on my VTEC LUDE,cash my check,come home eat and get LAID by my G/F!!how sweet is life at 18???
Prelude's Rule...teg's R alright 2...later on guys...close thread since it won't get us no where
Prelude's Rule...teg's R alright 2...later on guys...close thread since it won't get us no where
Crippy
09-10-2004, 04:13 PM
fuck the prelude, preludes are slow as shit, just my opinion
and you are dumb as shit , prolly not just my opinion tho ... anyone thats says the prelude is slow or that it sucks and that the GS-R is better is an idiot ... these two cars are about as evenly matched up as two cars can be , stock for stock the lude has a very slight edge ...
and you are dumb as shit , prolly not just my opinion tho ... anyone thats says the prelude is slow or that it sucks and that the GS-R is better is an idiot ... these two cars are about as evenly matched up as two cars can be , stock for stock the lude has a very slight edge ...
SiGNAL748
09-10-2004, 05:35 PM
hahahahaha unlike u old frats I acuttually have a life/job and was working all day 12 HOUR SHIFT!! which means I couldn't reply till today..anyways..whatever I c...u guys have done enough flamming....but that's O.K. cause I have a life behind this tread....also..damn 12 Hour shift then I get to ride on my VTEC LUDE,cash my check,come home eat and get LAID by my G/F!!how sweet is life at 18???
Prelude's Rule...teg's R alright 2...later on guys...close thread since it won't get us no where
Nice Rebuttle. You're speechless on the topic at hand because we've proven you wrong ten-fold, in various threads, including and other than this one. So you have to come up with a quick subject change. I never mentioned anything about anyone's personal life; I find it very sophomoric that you'd reply in such a way that you would deviate from the subject and flaunt on about how you have to work a whole 12 hours just to make a living. Its sad, really.
Prelude's Rule...teg's R alright 2...later on guys...close thread since it won't get us no where
Nice Rebuttle. You're speechless on the topic at hand because we've proven you wrong ten-fold, in various threads, including and other than this one. So you have to come up with a quick subject change. I never mentioned anything about anyone's personal life; I find it very sophomoric that you'd reply in such a way that you would deviate from the subject and flaunt on about how you have to work a whole 12 hours just to make a living. Its sad, really.
wickedplastikman
09-10-2004, 11:17 PM
someone brought this one back from the dead
KrNxRaCer00
09-11-2004, 04:34 AM
and i'll kill it...
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