could Jurassic Park be true?
NeonAtron
07-22-2004, 09:37 PM
i was watching Jurassic Park the other day (the first one) and it was showing the part where they found the old mosquitoes in the hardend tree sap. and they took the dna that the mosquito took from the dinosaur and cloned the dinosaur....lol we all were like "yea right" back then, but now they are cloning sheep and cows and are now talking about humans! if these fossilized mosquitoes do exist with dinosaur dna inside ot them can they really be recreated? pleaze offer some insite. thanx.
CougKid3030
07-22-2004, 09:56 PM
Dude, where have you been? They already cloned a triceratops and he is on display in the San Diego zoo. Didn't you know that all DNA stays active for 65 million years? And its really easy to replicate DNA too, you just pop it in some jelly and shock it. Thats all easy, its the mating thats tough. I mean, 65 million years of that DNAs sexual frustration probably hasnt left it with the best view of its female counterparts.
FireBball972
07-22-2004, 10:06 PM
Actually you could reproduce the DNA quite rapidly using DNA Polymerase Reactions. Or something like that. I forget exactly what it's called. But, there's the little problem of decayed DNA, extracting it from a feasible source, and finding a proper vessel for birth and reproduction. Sorry buddy, not quite gonna cut it. :screwy:
NitroguN
07-22-2004, 10:08 PM
Dude, where have you been? They already cloned a triceratops and he is on display in the San Diego zoo.
Wow, i'm sure i would've heard of that. If that is true, then i want one ... i would feed it chocolate chip cookies instead of grass though.
Wow, i'm sure i would've heard of that. If that is true, then i want one ... i would feed it chocolate chip cookies instead of grass though.
FireBball972
07-22-2004, 10:14 PM
Wow, i'm sure i would've heard of that. If that is true, then i want one ... i would feed it chocolate chip cookies instead of grass though.
oh geez, you can't be serious :disappoin
we are teh gullible :sly:
oh geez, you can't be serious :disappoin
we are teh gullible :sly:
Mediocrity
07-22-2004, 10:17 PM
It's not possible at all.
I wrote a paper on it for my college geology class... There was one big problem but I cant remember what it was. But it was impossible.
oh yeah!
Extracting it from mosquitos is impossible because you have to deal with contamination from other sources... that wasnt the big deal of it... but yeah, it's impossible.
I wrote a paper on it for my college geology class... There was one big problem but I cant remember what it was. But it was impossible.
oh yeah!
Extracting it from mosquitos is impossible because you have to deal with contamination from other sources... that wasnt the big deal of it... but yeah, it's impossible.
NitroguN
07-22-2004, 10:24 PM
oh geez, you can't be serious :disappoin
we are teh gullible :sly:
Naw lol not serious :)
we are teh gullible :sly:
Naw lol not serious :)
MagicRat
07-22-2004, 11:08 PM
It would be throretically possible, but the odds of finding such a well preserved sample are virtually nil.
a_hol06
07-22-2004, 11:43 PM
Would a trapped mosquito decompose when trapped? Mythbusters showed that a pig encased in concrete decomposed quite well. anyway maybe fungi or bacteria got on the pig before put in the concrete, and maybe a mosquito wouldnt have such since alive or something perhaps maybe possibly....or have they found mosquitoes trapped in amber preserved.....didnt they?...
MagicRat
07-23-2004, 12:20 AM
Would a trapped mosquito decompose when trapped? Mythbusters showed that a pig encased in concrete decomposed quite well. anyway maybe fungi or bacteria got on the pig before put in the concrete, and maybe a mosquito wouldnt have such since alive or something perhaps maybe possibly....or have they found mosquitoes trapped in amber preserved.....didnt they?...
What is preserved is the bug's exoskeleton. Its made of proteins, a bit like your fingernails. However, all the internal structures, where the genetic material is, does not survive.
What is preserved is the bug's exoskeleton. Its made of proteins, a bit like your fingernails. However, all the internal structures, where the genetic material is, does not survive.
ZedEx
07-23-2004, 12:34 AM
Obviously none of you know what your talking about...
We made a Velociraptor in Chemistry one day. So if we can do it... They can do it.
-Wes
We made a Velociraptor in Chemistry one day. So if we can do it... They can do it.
-Wes
OrangeCrush
07-23-2004, 01:14 AM
Its not possible, Ross said so. Dont you guys watch Friends?
-Davo
07-23-2004, 10:35 AM
i was watching Jurassic Park the other day (the first one) and it was showing the part where they found the old mosquitoes in the hardend tree sap. and they took the dna that the mosquito took from the dinosaur and cloned the dinosaur....lol we all were like "yea right" back then, but now they are cloning sheep and cows and are now talking about humans! if these fossilized mosquitoes do exist with dinosaur dna inside ot them can they really be recreated? pleaze offer some insite. thanx.
That's actually a good point, and something to ponder for the future.
I don't know how long DNA stays alive though. But if it were to stay alive for 65 million years, we would of been able to use the DNA from the bones.
That's actually a good point, and something to ponder for the future.
I don't know how long DNA stays alive though. But if it were to stay alive for 65 million years, we would of been able to use the DNA from the bones.
NeonAtron
07-23-2004, 11:50 AM
Are you serious? They cloned a triceratops?
psychobadboy
07-23-2004, 11:52 AM
Are you serious? They cloned a triceratops?
It was sarcasm...
It was sarcasm...
lamehonda
07-23-2004, 01:05 PM
Are you serious? They cloned a triceratops?
No, It was a T-rex. Nasty little bugger
No, It was a T-rex. Nasty little bugger
Raz_Kaz
07-23-2004, 01:23 PM
:eek7: little?
Mediocrity
07-23-2004, 04:04 PM
No, it's completely impossible. And here's why, I remember now -
You cant draw enough DNA from fossils. So Tree Sap with mosquitos seems reasonable, right?
Well good for it.
In the movie they went to the island of Costa Rica for it... and thats where they got it out of the Amber.
The oldest Amber found in Costa Rica is 2000 years old.
Much too young for any Dinosaur DNA. Even if there were mosquitos with dinosaur blood - they've bitten tons of different creatures, the DNA is contaminated and useless. Therefore, it is not theoretically possible, it is completely and factually impossible.
You cant draw enough DNA from fossils. So Tree Sap with mosquitos seems reasonable, right?
Well good for it.
In the movie they went to the island of Costa Rica for it... and thats where they got it out of the Amber.
The oldest Amber found in Costa Rica is 2000 years old.
Much too young for any Dinosaur DNA. Even if there were mosquitos with dinosaur blood - they've bitten tons of different creatures, the DNA is contaminated and useless. Therefore, it is not theoretically possible, it is completely and factually impossible.
Integra06
07-23-2004, 04:16 PM
Is it possible? No. :gives:
:2cents:
:2cents:
TheScientist
07-24-2004, 07:57 PM
If you read Crichton's actual books rather than watching the movies, you'll find more about the theories presented in the story there.
Chevy_girl00
07-24-2004, 09:30 PM
Are you serious? They cloned a triceratops?
Hahaha, it's okay. I thought they were serious at first too. LOL!!
Hahaha, it's okay. I thought they were serious at first too. LOL!!
speediva
07-24-2004, 10:49 PM
Wow, this thread has got itself a TON of precious jewels... and I don't mean the amber.
Raz_Kaz
07-24-2004, 10:57 PM
ok ok, even if they could reproduce a dinosaur. Say it was a males DNA they extracted, doesnt necessarily mean they would be able to live for long seeing as how the environment has changed drastically since their era
Damien
07-25-2004, 01:36 AM
U said it Tangie...
Thing is..I know something bout this, but then I'd have to kill ya. Sorry. Yes, I'm serious
Thing is..I know something bout this, but then I'd have to kill ya. Sorry. Yes, I'm serious
publicenemy137
07-25-2004, 11:57 AM
I'd say the only way this would be possible, is if a mosquito flew somewhere really cold like Anartica, and stayed frozen there for thousands of years. It's possible too, remember that really old caveman that was barely decayed, still had hair even on him. Now the chances of this are also very very slim (since when did you see a mosquito fly onto frozen terriroty), but if it was to be encased in ice it would be perfectly preserved.
Mediocrity
07-25-2004, 02:03 PM
Yeah, but you're talking about 65 Million YEARS of frozenness. Even at a decelerated decomposition rate, the DNA would still be rendered useless after that long. PLUS like I've said a thousand times before, the biggest thing you would still have to contend with is the fact that other DNA will contaminate it and render it useless long before it became a frozen bug.
TheScientist
07-25-2004, 06:40 PM
Thing is..I know something bout this, but then I'd have to kill ya. Sorry. Yes, I'm serious
what, you work with the federals?
what, you work with the federals?
FireBball972
07-25-2004, 08:54 PM
You cant draw enough DNA from fossils.
Exactly. Fossils are rocks.
Exactly. Fossils are rocks.
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