S-10 Pickup vs Eclipse

Hey i got a good friend who owns a 1997 Eclipse GSX (AWD) 245 HP.
He was challenged by a guy who owns a chevy s-10 pickup, this pickup has been modded, its got a V6, its a 4x4. The pickup also has a supercharger in it, who would win a quarter mile drag? There is some serious money at risk and i was wondering if it would be a fair race?

id go with the truck
but you could try to hook up some nos in the gsx

ya he wants to put nitrous from nitrous express in it

i thought the eclipse gsx comes turbo charged? do they not, i have a friend who has a 98 eclipse and i thought it was the gsx model and his is turbocharged, but i could be wrong, maybe only some are... anyways, i know the 4.3's can be very fast, but if the eclipse is turbo charged then i would go with that, if not then the s10 will probably take it...

weight is going to be the biggest factor. i like the s-10's but the 4x4 is going to lose that race the 4x4 weight is over 2800 lbs and the cars weight is well under 2800 lbs. car is quicker on the line and faster on the top end. sorry s-10 :(

you must have missed when he said the s-10 was suppercharged. i would go s-10 and tell the guy with the s-10 to cut the wire for the govener so he can go faster the 97mph

it doesn't matter if the s-10 is supercharged or not the gsx is turbo charged and wants to had NOS so weight it still going to stop the truck and anyone who has been around knows it's easier to go into battle with a club and not a stick

I would say the gsx.4x4's are too heavy,regardless of the supercharger.

a extended cab 4x4 s-10 weights about 3000 lbs the is with a topper

ummm a supercharged 4x4 ??? I don't think this would be built for drag racing ... more for pulling or muddin would be my guess ...

you people are stupid!!! 4x4 who cares not much more weight, it will still move. it will keep tell gsxer to screw the the nos. nos and japcrap are like bigblock+suppercharger. tell the s10 guy to dyno his truck the hp/wieght ratio is the same is not better. think about it 4.3supper or 2.0 turbo. Ive heard of guys racing there s10s with supperchargers and snaping axles.

<<<<<-------- Knows how to spell ....

(( he calls a car JAPCRAP, but he has one listted in his profile)) roflmmfao

i dont think the size of the engine is gonna matter in this one. they have a 4.3 in this big heavy truck, and a 2.0 in this little light car. plus the transmissions will have there gears set up differently. the 4.3 is not made for going fast, (not saying they dont) while the eclipse is. the eclipse is gonna smoke it.... actually my neighbor had a 4.3, not supercharged, and he raced a kid in a 95 eclipse and the eclipse beat him, but not by much, and that 4.3 wasnt a 4x4. now if the 4.3 was in a a shortbed single cab s10, then the truck might have a change, but beinbg extended and 4x4, no. also the 4.3 only has about a 170 hp ( not 100% sure so dont quote me) and the gsx has like 235, no comparrison...

i thought my 4.3 was 200? i kno its at lease 190

The eclipse is awd so in the 1/4 he'll have a 1.7 60 ft time and if he is any kind of a decent driver he can run a low 14 to high 13 1/4 mile. If he has any mods at all and boost control he'll have it turned up to about 16 pounds of boost and could be in the mid 13's. There is no way the s-10 would come close unless the kid in the eclipse drives like crap.

This thread is a clusterfuck of misinformation.

4.3's will vary by year and to a lesser extent, model.
My 94 SS is stock 195 HP but others are as low as 160 stock I believe.

i wasnt exactly sure of what the HP on the 4.3 was. you had 195 on a stock 4.3 out of a 94s10? thats sweet, im looking for a 4.3 to put into mine, its a 94... and i know my 2.2 is weaker than hell

anways, whoever started this thread, how about going to the race whenever it is taking place, and make a video of it, and post it on a new thread so everyone can see what really happend? just an idea...

you have all talked of the weight difference when the truck actually weighs less than the car. The thing the car has going for him is a better take off. That's the problem with S-10's is keeping the rear wheels on the pavement with a light rearend. But if it were just up to hp to weight ratios I'd go with truck but I don't think he'll be able to keep it on the ground with the added power from the supercharger. Just my 2 cents!

Hank

The 2003 Vortec 4300 engine produces 190 hp at 4400 rpm and 250 lb.-ft. of torque at 2800 rpm. So with supercharger who know?

he also said it was superchaged guys... the s-10 is going to be fucking quik... it will be a good race...

you all need to look @ some of the 10 second cars, and look at the weight vs truck weight, i also talked to several drag racers about this thread and they all came up with the same answer: the truck supercharged or not cannot beat a car that in running NOS, because a truck is set up to carry heavy loads and a car is set up to carry people only

you all need to look @ some of the 10 second cars, and look at the weight vs truck weight, i also talked to several drag racers about this thread and they all came up with the same answer: the truck supercharged or not cannot beat a car that in running NOS, because a truck is set up to carry heavy loads and a car is set up to carry people only
Did someone beat you with a sack of quarters as a child??

Who cares what the purpose of the vehicles is? You have seen the Toyota Tacoma that is running NOPI right now, haven't you? :screwy:

weight is going to be the biggest factor. i like the s-10's but the 4x4 is going to lose that race the 4x4 weight is over 2800 lbs and the cars weight is well under 2800 lbs. car is quicker on the line and faster on the top end. sorry s-10 :(
I WOULDN`T GO SO FAR AS TO SAY "SORRY S-10". THE THING THAT COUNTS MOST IN A DRAG RACE ( of this type), IS TORQUE. THE HONDA JUST HASN`T GOT IT. THAT TURBO WILL MAKE A LOT OF REVS, BUT, NOT MUCH HELP IN THE TORQUE DEPT.

I WOULDN`T GO SO FAR AS TO SAY "SORRY S-10". THE THING THAT COUNTS MOST IN A DRAG RACE ( of this type), IS TORQUE. THE HONDA JUST HASN`T GOT IT. THAT TURBO WILL MAKE A LOT OF REVS, BUT, NOT MUCH HELP IN THE TORQUE DEPT
O.K. This has gone far enough!The Eclipse is now a Honda??????????Race and then post the outcome.Enough said.

well I got an 89 4x4 witht the 4.3, I have found it is rated at 160hp, I would have to go with the S10 in a race though....

Agreed Brian..

The eclipse is awd so in the 1/4 he'll have a 1.7 60 ft time and if he is any kind of a decent driver he can run a low 14 to high 13 1/4 mile. If he has any mods at all and boost control he'll have it turned up to about 16 pounds of boost and could be in the mid 13's. There is no way the s-10 would come close unless the kid in the eclipse drives like crap.

ARE YOU ABSOLUTLY CRAZY? THE 409 CHEVY OF THE 60`S RAN 13`S. I KNOW THERE ISN`T A DAMN PIECE OF JAPSCRAP THAT CAN RUN THAT QUICK. NOT EVEN A MITSUBISI..... COME ON MAN, WAKE UP AND SMELL THE COFFE... THESE ARE QUARTER MILE TIMES NOT 2 MILE...

WHO WON this thread i way old damnit!

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This thread is a clusterfuck of misinformation.

Then pardon me while I add my own. :iceslolan

Anyway. Horsepower sells cars. Torque wins races. 4x4 does not guarantee a slower vehicle, it does however, lessen the chances of peeling out at the starting line. Please note however, that a 4x4 is racing a 4x4. AWD is 4x4.

I've seen all kinds of different claims for the hp of a stock 4.3, between 160 and 210. But the torque remains true: 245 ft/lbs.

And this is supercharged, so conservatively bump that to 300 ft/lbs.

I would put my money on the S-10, until the GSX gets nos'd up.

idk i would think the truck yoou could lock that sucker in 4 wheel and just rev it i dout there would be any tire spin and im sure super charged it has like 300 or more horses but idono im just thinkn

There is WAY not enough info here to decide this. On straight up eclipse gsx vs supercharged s-10, the gsx would win hands down. On the launch, at high rpm, at top speed. He can gain ground while the turbo is spooling, but that might be it since his response is instant with the supercharger. Now, if he has a supercharger, you would assume that he has also modded other parts. I would hope he has traction bars of some sort, and it also depends if its an awd tranny or 4x4 tranny. Yes, either will grip to go, but the transfer case will fry on a 4x4 at high speeds (if we are talking engaged for this race). Now, what does the gsx have done to it? If nothing, and the guy has built his truck right, yes, he will win. BUT, if the kid has built his gsx, then there is no way the s-10 will win. Its a sad reality, I'm american all the way and would love to see the plastic cars melt, but its the truth.

YOUR RIGHT ABOUT ONE THING.. NOT ENOUGH INFORMATION HERE. HOWEVER, ANYONE THAT UNDERESTIMATES THE ABILITY OF THES-10, IS GONNA GET A CLOSEUP AND PERSONAL LOOK AT A NICE SHINEYSET OF S-10 TAIL LIGHTS. I AM AN AMERICAN. I WORK IN AMERICA. I EARN AMERICAN DOLLERS.(not yen)i had 3 brothers that were ww 2 vets. why the hell would i ever buy a piece of jap-scrap? if you scratch the paint off the door, it says, miller lite under the paint. i`ll bet on the s-10.

Are you kidding? Miller cans would be too expensive, lol. I know what an s-10 can do, but I also know what the gsx can do. I would rather have the s-10 myself, but a v-6 s-10 can only do soo much damage. A cyclone or typhoon for expample, fast, but there are cars/trucks out there faster. I am in no way putting down the dimes, I love em. I just know what you can do to those stupid little ricerockets now. Give me a big block over a turbo any day, then we can show those little rc cars what a real car is.

I Hear Ya. A-men On The Bigblock. I Forgot To Tell Ya Before, I Have A Mitsubisi Eclipse Engine In My S-10. I Use It For A Heater Motor. Thanks For The Reply.take Care.

This thread is retarded.

1.) Supercharger or not, the S10 is a heavy pig of a truck.
2.) GSX will hook up and launch better with AWD. Redline clutch dumps are awesome.

I Don`t Know What You Guys Are Thinking. The S-10 Is Not A Big Heavy Truck. It Only Has A 108 Inch Wheel Base. I Don`t Know The Exact Weight But, By No Means "a Big Heavy Truck".if This One Has Traction Bars, That Lift, The Weight Transfer Is Gonna Make A Helluva Difference. Don`t Sell The S-10 Short. IT My Just "dork" The Japscrap. I Wouldn`t Be Surprised.ANYBODY WITH HALF A BRAIN KNOWS, THE BLOWER,(SUPERCHARGER) HAS A GOOD ADVANTAGE OVER A STUPID TURBO CHARGER...GET REAL MAN.

How can you pull an idiotic arguement on how the s10 is not a heavy truck without knowing what its actual weight is?

Do you understand how stupid you sound?

do you know what it weighs? no....STUPID IS THE NAME OF A FOOL THAT THINKS HE HAS ALL THE ANSWERS BUT REALLY HASN`T ANY IDEA. IF I`M STUPID, YOUR MORONIC.

Yea, you see, I know what it weighs.

4800-5200lbs based on the options and accessories.

How can you think that a 2 1/2 ton blown mid sized truck is going to blast a 3000-3500lb turbo charged AWD car.

I won't be thinking so, someone needs a reality check.

kthxbye.....

Wrong Cockbreath... If It`s A Plain S-10, No Extras, 6 Foot Box, It Weighs Just Over 3500 Lbs. Better Check The Hollander. And, If You Scape The Paint Off The Bumper, Which Is Steel, Not Plastic, You Will Find A Coat Of Primer, Not :coors Lite" Or "miller Lite". Which Is Probabley What It Says Under The Thin Coat Of Paint On The Jap Crap.
DON`T FORGET, THIS IS AN S-10, NOT A SILVERODO....

you all need to look @ some of the 10 second cars, and look at the weight vs truck weight, i also talked to several drag racers about this thread and they all came up with the same answer: the truck supercharged or not cannot beat a car that in running NOS, because a truck is set up to carry heavy loads and a car is set up to carry people only
I DIDN`T HEAR A WORD ABOUT "IT HAS NITROS.. I DID HEAR HE "WANTS TO INSTALL IT". MIGHT BLOW IT UP. OTHERWISE, THE S-10 IS GONNA KILL UM.

so its been a good while since this thing started... did they race yet?

i had a 91 eagle talon TSi. (turbo) it was fast as hell. it was auto. i heard the Manual had bigger turbos. i will tell you the only cars i lost to was a new z28 and a bmx (not sure of the series.) if theres anything done with the car, its a fast car. i would say the car. i would even put money on the car. but do remember, they put superchargers on them s-10 and s-10 blazers a while back. they were the fastest in something. no sure. also if its AWD, he will grip as the truck will spin, he'll get the jump.

Wrong Cockbreath... If It`s A Plain S-10, No Extras, 6 Foot Box, It Weighs Just Over 3500 Lbs. Better Check The Hollander. And, If You Scape The Paint Off The Bumper, Which Is Steel, Not Plastic, You Will Find A Coat Of Primer, Not :coors Lite" Or "miller Lite". Which Is Probabley What It Says Under The Thin Coat Of Paint On The Jap Crap.
DON`T FORGET, THIS IS AN S-10, NOT A SILVERODO....

Hey dickhead, I own an S10 Blazer, not "jap crap".

I will be honest and state I made a Mistake on the weights.

S10 = 3029lbs with Engine http://www.carsdirect.com/research/chevrolet/s10/1999/base/features

Eclipse = 3270lbs with engine
http://www.engine-power.com/mitsubishi/eclipse_gsx.html

My bad, I made a booboo but I can still guarantee that the eclipse will hook up better off of the line and take him.

I'd even put money on it.

i had a 91 eagle talon TSi. (turbo) it was fast as hell. it was auto. i heard the Manual had bigger turbos. i will tell you the only cars i lost to was a new z28 and a bmx (not sure of the series.) if theres anything done with the car, its a fast car. i would say the car. i would even put money on the car. but do remember, they put superchargers on them s-10 and s-10 blazers a while back. they were the fastest in something. no sure. also if its AWD, he will grip as the truck will spin, he'll get the jump.
OK... THE TALON WAS VERY QUICK. HOWEVER, I STRONGLY DISAGREE WITH YOU. THE S-10 IS A FOUR WHEEL DRIVE. THE ECLIPSE IS ALL WHEEL DRIVE. THE DIFFERENCE IS, THE ECLIPSE, IS ONLY EQUIPED WITH A TUBO, AND, ANYONE THAT UNDERSTANDS BOOST, KNOWS THAT A TURBO CAN NOT MATCH A SUPERCHARGE. THESE S-10`S ARE DAMN QUICK WHEN SO EQUIPED. THE S-10 HAS THIS ONE HANDS DOWN.

Tell me, have you driven in either of the mentioned vehicles?

I Wondered How Long It Would Take You To Ask That.. As A Matter Of Fact I Most Certainly Have. My Brother In Law, Owns A 1996 S-10. 4.3, Blown And Injected.the Only Thing That Has Ever Beatin It, Was A 440 Cuda. The Truck Runs In The Low 10`s At The Local Dragway. It Is Absolutly Amazing. Gotta Do It Before You`ll Beleive It. If I Can, I Will See If I Can Get Some Pictures Of It And Post Them Here If Possabile. Like I Said Before, Don`t Sell The S-10 Short. They Can Be Devistating.

i think its time for the race. WE WANT PICTURES of this.

I Wondered How Long It Would Take You To Ask That.. As A Matter Of Fact I Most Certainly Have. My Brother In Law, Owns A 1996 S-10. 4.3, Blown And Injected.the Only Thing That Has Ever Beatin It, Was A 440 Cuda. The Truck Runs In The Low 10`s At The Local Dragway. It Is Absolutly Amazing. Gotta Do It Before You`ll Beleive It. If I Can, I Will See If I Can Get Some Pictures Of It And Post Them Here If Possabile. Like I Said Before, Don`t Sell The S-10 Short. They Can Be Devistating.

S10 in the low 10s with Nitrous and a supercharger?

Complete and udder 100% bullshit.

I could care less about pictures, they prove nothing. I want to see a timeslip or a video.

100% built Syclones or Typhoons don't touch 10s most of the time.

I am not writin off a 4.3L. I own one and know that they don't run 10s with a shot and a supercharger, they wouldn't even be able to hook up.

hey guys, you know the guy that posted this has not been on to reply since july. its now sept.

you got a point there.

Didn't notice, I'm outa here.

theres no way the truck can weigh 4800-5200 pounds because my blazer only weighs 4000 i would think the blazer weighs more.

the gsx has 250 hp but how much torque does it have. torque moves mass remember that turbo = horse power sc = torque lol somethin like that

theres no way the truck can weigh 4800-5200 pounds because my blazer only weighs 4000 i would think the blazer weighs more.

Hey brainwave, how about reading the whole thread.

Specifically post #47

hey dumb ass lol na i did read it but i had already posted lol sry

Hehe, kew

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