the perfect cooling system!
newbie86N/A
07-19-2004, 02:15 PM
okay i have come to realize how truly vital proper operating temperature really is. so, my question this time is what components of my cooling system should i replace? AND where can i find them (what sites)?
keep in mind, i want QUALITY parts not stupid shit that people buy when they don't know anything about their cars, lol. also that i plan on A LOT of mods after i know for sure that the engine is strong and fit, so when u give me advice think like i have more power, because i will very soon. (if hp even makes that big of a difference with this subject)
-jason
keep in mind, i want QUALITY parts not stupid shit that people buy when they don't know anything about their cars, lol. also that i plan on A LOT of mods after i know for sure that the engine is strong and fit, so when u give me advice think like i have more power, because i will very soon. (if hp even makes that big of a difference with this subject)
-jason
D3rELiC
07-19-2004, 03:25 PM
a bigger rad
clean emission stuff from under the hood, it will allow more fresh air
a T2 hood does help too
FD oil cooler at the extreme
are you planning to go turbo ? then look for the V-mounts fro rotary extreme, they have FD oil cooler upgrades as well
clean emission stuff from under the hood, it will allow more fresh air
a T2 hood does help too
FD oil cooler at the extreme
are you planning to go turbo ? then look for the V-mounts fro rotary extreme, they have FD oil cooler upgrades as well
newbie86N/A
07-19-2004, 04:23 PM
not turbo..but nitrous. with my car i ended up with an extra 13b, lol. so i want to take it apart learn it and build it up for nitrous. 250+ shot if possible...i already know exactly how i want that set-up though. i'm just not one of the posers in our world that goes straight to nitrous with an engine that has 150k+ miles on it! i'm doing it all THE RIGHT WAY, no matter how long it takes. it's worth it for me that way.......
i've heard a few things about FD accessories being used on FC's. what can and can't we use from them? and what we can use, is it worth getting?
i've heard a few things about FD accessories being used on FC's. what can and can't we use from them? and what we can use, is it worth getting?
J-Rat
07-19-2004, 04:30 PM
K2RD radiator!! Its crossflow, and its MASSIVE. My car NEVER overheats.
newbie86N/A
07-19-2004, 04:35 PM
hey J-rat...where would i find out...and how much did u pay? is that all u have for your cooling?
Soyo
07-19-2004, 04:39 PM
FD oil cooler like he said... I have seen on some D1 rx-7 they had dual oil coolers(one under each headlight) but you'd have to do a headlight conversion to fit those, and I don't think anyone acctually sells them.
koyo radiator would be my advice, they are quality and as good a price as your gonna find for a top end radiator
now on the subject of stuff from FC's, you can use the fuel pump and alternator for upgrades on each of those items
I know what your saying about nitrous, its associated with ricers a lot but it really is a great product to use on a car that is built enough to handle it... anyways just do whats been listed so far and you should be set for cooling
koyo radiator would be my advice, they are quality and as good a price as your gonna find for a top end radiator
now on the subject of stuff from FC's, you can use the fuel pump and alternator for upgrades on each of those items
I know what your saying about nitrous, its associated with ricers a lot but it really is a great product to use on a car that is built enough to handle it... anyways just do whats been listed so far and you should be set for cooling
D3rELiC
07-19-2004, 04:56 PM
will your engine remain fuel injected and stockport ?
newbie86N/A
07-19-2004, 05:01 PM
well i figured while i have it apart i could send it out for a port job...but what are my options besides fuel injection? i don't want carbs..so if that's all there is then yes, i will stay with my fi.
D3rELiC
07-19-2004, 06:12 PM
you basiquely have to choose between a carb or a EMS to exploit the new port configuration of your engine (if it gets ported).
you plan on running with haltech or something ?
what nitrous setup are you looking at ?
2 stage direct port ? :P
you plan on running with haltech or something ?
what nitrous setup are you looking at ?
2 stage direct port ? :P
newbie86N/A
07-19-2004, 08:40 PM
expand on ems...... haltech was my first thought. what do u think?
also, i wasn't aware there were stages to direct porting. i just thought there was dry, wet, and direct-port. anything over 125 with a rotary and direct-port is a must. so fill me in sir! i am eager to learn.
also, i wasn't aware there were stages to direct porting. i just thought there was dry, wet, and direct-port. anything over 125 with a rotary and direct-port is a must. so fill me in sir! i am eager to learn.
newbie86N/A
07-19-2004, 08:43 PM
also, instead of a t2 hood, cause i'm not a fan of them.... would the headlight "scoop" be affective at all?
D3rELiC
07-19-2004, 09:39 PM
its ok without T2 hood, im not a fan either, in fact i'd buy an n/a hood and go fmic if i had a T2
anyway, the difference between stages is just the quantity of nitrous you shoot into the engine
lets say :
stage 1 : 110 shots
stage 2 : 250 shots
when you floor it, the nitrous gets on
you'd spin too much with a 250 shot bellow lets say 5k, so u use a smaller amount of nitrous on takeoffs
someone correct me if im wrong ! im not a nos expert.
i also think the haltech is a good way to stay in control of you engine and nitrous. but you might wanna check if someone can tune it near you. the system cost from 800$ to 1500$, there is cheaper product, but its what i'd use if i had to get an EMS
anyway, the difference between stages is just the quantity of nitrous you shoot into the engine
lets say :
stage 1 : 110 shots
stage 2 : 250 shots
when you floor it, the nitrous gets on
you'd spin too much with a 250 shot bellow lets say 5k, so u use a smaller amount of nitrous on takeoffs
someone correct me if im wrong ! im not a nos expert.
i also think the haltech is a good way to stay in control of you engine and nitrous. but you might wanna check if someone can tune it near you. the system cost from 800$ to 1500$, there is cheaper product, but its what i'd use if i had to get an EMS
J-Rat
07-20-2004, 03:37 AM
hey J-rat...where would i find out...and how much did u pay? is that all u have for your cooling?
That radiator will run you about $500. Its at K2RD.com.
My other mod is a black magic 150 fan.
That radiator will run you about $500. Its at K2RD.com.
My other mod is a black magic 150 fan.
Soyo
07-20-2004, 04:12 AM
ahh... and electric fan, how could I over look that!
if you wanna spend the money on it then thats another good cooling mod
if you wanna spend the money on it then thats another good cooling mod
FCsilvia
07-20-2004, 04:18 AM
hmm.. i guess if you're looking to get power + cooler temps.. and sticking with NA.. hmmm...
- large alum rad (K2RD, Griffin, KOYO, etc..)
- Electric fan (black magic, flex-a-lite)
- remove emissions, a/c, p/s, air pump, rats nest
- dual alternator pulley
- remove OMP and run pre-mix? maybe..
- full exhaust
- 89+ rotors
- some kind of porting (street, mild, PP, anything..)
- 89+ intake manifolds (larger ports for more air)
- aqua mist (some sort of water injection)
- aftermarket oil cooler (if you have the funds)
i think that covers most of it. there are different opinions going around about using R1 FD3S oil coolers. Yes, they've been used on TIIs successfully but also there have been oil pressure problems. The oil feed and return lines are really long leading to low oil pressure. Plus, have you seen the size of the FD oil coolers? I'm not sure why I'd switch my TII oil cooler for FD ones. The only reason I would see to switch to FD oil coolers if you were running a FMIC, which blocks air to the stock FC3S oil cooler. But you're not a TII, so you shouldn't be worrying about it.
- Kevin
- large alum rad (K2RD, Griffin, KOYO, etc..)
- Electric fan (black magic, flex-a-lite)
- remove emissions, a/c, p/s, air pump, rats nest
- dual alternator pulley
- remove OMP and run pre-mix? maybe..
- full exhaust
- 89+ rotors
- some kind of porting (street, mild, PP, anything..)
- 89+ intake manifolds (larger ports for more air)
- aqua mist (some sort of water injection)
- aftermarket oil cooler (if you have the funds)
i think that covers most of it. there are different opinions going around about using R1 FD3S oil coolers. Yes, they've been used on TIIs successfully but also there have been oil pressure problems. The oil feed and return lines are really long leading to low oil pressure. Plus, have you seen the size of the FD oil coolers? I'm not sure why I'd switch my TII oil cooler for FD ones. The only reason I would see to switch to FD oil coolers if you were running a FMIC, which blocks air to the stock FC3S oil cooler. But you're not a TII, so you shouldn't be worrying about it.
- Kevin
D3rELiC
07-20-2004, 07:38 AM
why bother with water injection on an n/a ? the compressed air is hotter, but the air getting in the engine at 14.5 psi (or whatever the atmospheric pressure is) is not hot. W/I its overkill on a n/a engine
Soyo
07-20-2004, 02:52 PM
you don't want anything bigger than a large street port on a street driven car... deffinately not a PP
newbie86N/A
07-20-2004, 09:40 PM
okay, u have to tell me where and what the "rats nest" is, lol. also what the OMP and pre-mix is.. sorry, don't know it all yet, lol!
thanks in advance....
thanks in advance....
D3rELiC
07-20-2004, 10:11 PM
Premix : Mixing the gaz with oil when you fill up, you can then block/remove the OMP and use synthec oil in the engine, and 2 stroke oil in the gaztank
OMP : Oil Meetering pump, its the gizmo lubrificating your rotor seals. when it stop working, you kill your engine, ppl will run safety premix or will run full premix
OMP : Oil Meetering pump, its the gizmo lubrificating your rotor seals. when it stop working, you kill your engine, ppl will run safety premix or will run full premix
kevinorhoades
07-21-2004, 08:00 PM
I'm guessing the rats nest is the airbox?
J-Rat
07-22-2004, 04:29 AM
No, thats the Vac rack under the UIM.
D3rELiC
07-22-2004, 09:52 AM
the ratnest is all the vaccum hoses and the useless shit going over your engine.
flex339
07-22-2004, 10:42 PM
mircotech EMS's are affordable. You should check them out. I've heard they are simple to tune also compared to some of the other options.
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