Read this BullS***

I accidentally ran into this bullshit, even if I try to accomodate most anyones views (even logikal or is it logik raping juveniles), I realy realy hate when folks talk shit about things they have no clue, this pisses me off. If I don't know anything, I research or ask questions, if I'm mis sinformed, I'll apologize if you prove me wrong, but when folks just talk shit cuz they think they know everything, they should get a foot up their ass and a fist down their throat. Read this shit on this forum.

http://www.kitcars.com/forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=1240&whichpage=1

hey gotdammit, those middle schoolers have their way with ME. ok? you sick motherfucker?

i dont rape juvies, they want me. they want me badly.




but on topic...thats sad, and kinda funny in a way

Funny how juves are atracted to shinny things, my boy has dubs on his 99 buick, airbags, etc, and every where he goes, here they come like flies to a pile of S***. Do you have chromes on your 240 or gold teeth?????? Maybe that is why, I know it ain't your face as you have already established that it ain't pretty in your SIG. :iceslolan
Take some steroids, might give you the upper hand.

but on topic, since when did it take a 240 10sec to reach 60mph, and since when did a maxima be the closest thing to a skyline????????????? that was some bullshit. Even the R34 conversion for the integra and accord is just for looks.
Notice how they have conversion kits for hondas and acuras into anything, I saw an integra with a BMW 3 series conversion.
And then some idiot said his Cobra is faster than a R34, yeah in his dreams.
The 02 cobra finally gets 390hp SC, 4.6L V8,
99 Skyline GTR put out 400hp (tune), 2.6L I-6,
I like domestics and foreign, but you can't put a cobra in the same class as a skyline, well maybe that futuristic GT-R with 440hp, but thats a concept. Skyline and TT Supra will kill the cobra.

i noticed that too man, i saw a M3 conversion on a civic, a freaking civic wtf, where do all these companys come up with lets amek this and that for the honda/acura cars out there

like turbo kits for car which never offered that option, well i guess to each their own

What's the point of this thread? I'm insulted then sent to a forum where some old fart is talking about the kids these days are into the whole 0-60 times and the 240 has poor traction and how the Skyline is a Maxima. I don't know what the fuck they're talking about.

somebody needs to get punched in the face!! what the hell man!? Skyline is a "hotter" version than a maxima? stupid....

that thread gave me a headache...

nissan fanatic finaly went in there and told them wasup then they dissed him for speaking in "ebonics" cause he told them the correct info. People = dumb. Let's make sure our forums never get like that. Ack!

Do you have chromes on your 240 or gold teeth??????


both. plus i got those neon light-up valve stems for my tires.

Damn dude, I hope you don't have a big shiny exhaust too, might wanna keep a low profile, you gonna get mobbed by 13-16yr old Juves, they can be ruthless. I would hate to be in your position, I'll keep you in my prayers......................(Poor child, the counselling you gonna need :sorry:)
My bad logik, I keep confusing you with logikal, was joking with him, he seems to be the only one with the most outragious and ludacris thoughts and suggestions. If I was a shrink, I think I could make my career with him.

Anywayz, jokes aside, these are the guyz I can't stand, I have delt with fools like them. When a man ties loyalty to his country and the car he drives, you are dealing with a fool, a car is a tool for enjoyment not a declaration of loyalty. This world is full of DUMB FUCKING IDIOTS!!!!!!!!!! (excuse my language). :loser:
I always say this, and I know I keep repeating my self, my preference lies not with the car manufucturer or the car itself, it's whats on or in the car that makes it what it is. imagine if the R34 had a 150hp 4cyl, it would never have been the icon of automotive tech it is, it is the engine, the advanced AWD system, the looks everything come to make it what it is, be it a domestic or import, not who made the Fucking car!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

My bad logik, I keep confusing you with logikal, was joking with him,

No problem.

This world is full of DUMB FUCKING IDIOTS!!!!!!!!!!

Very, very true.

it is the engine, the advanced AWD system, the looks everything come to make it what it is, be it a domestic or import, not who made the Fucking car!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

It's true that it's all that which made the GT-R such an icon, but I think the fact that it was Nissan was a good thing to since they make such kick ass cars. Nissan is great at pursuing lines of cars, Silvias, Zs, GT-Rs...

fuck them all

fuck them all

I'm glad you could share your refined thoughts with us all.

If this is the car he was talking about, this is a piece of shit________ no sorry, I meant this is the shitiest skyline wanabe I've ever seen, hell, I saw an integra with a better R34 conversion, I saw an accord with a flawless R34 conversion. even if they didn't have the goods to back it up, they looked tight, but this, come on now...........
I like maximas, but if this is the car the guy was talking about, I guess the competition his son won, he must have been compitting somewhere in the boon docks, with nothing but 4 wheelers and tractors.
http://www.onlineshowoff.com/images/cars/2504/277823_10_full.jpg
http://www.onlineshowoff.com/images/cars/2504/277823_1_full.jpg
still looks like a maxima and nothing like a skyline.
Skymax my ASSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

you will be suprised that this ridiculous looking maxima ^ was rated better than this 240, I really don't like the front bumper but, overall this car is tight, he did some good work on it.
http://www.onlineshowoff.com/images/cars/3829/Mvc-394s.jpg http://www.onlineshowoff.com/images/cars/3829/Mvc-398s.jpg http://www.onlineshowoff.com/images/cars/3829/nissan100.jpg
How can the maxima be rated better than this 240, clearly this guy put some hard and quality work.

Now this is a much better skyline look-a-like.
http://www.wholehyper.com/current-scans/motorex-maxima-r33-lights-pict1.jpg http://www.wholehyper.com/current-scans/motorex-maxima-r33-lights-pict2.jpghttp://www.wholehyper.com/current-scans/motorex-maxima-r33-lights-pict3.jpg

Well I don't like either, but I must admit the guy with the 240 did one hell of a job, much better then the guy with the Maxima. Oh and your link doesn't work.

I know, oops.
I like the front of the maxima, only the front.
But doesnt it look foolish to have a four door skyline remake, I know there are four door skylines but, how dumb to remake one, atleast get a freaking 2 Dr.

Ello me old shiner. In england me old son you can pick them up quite cheap so theirs no real need to build one. check out www.autotrader.co.uk then search for skylines......you could always have one shipped to you?!

WHat a F*ckin stooge!! :rofl:

that maxima looks like the next car for fnf3!

that 240 looks like ass. the maxima looks worse, but the 240 looks like ass.

1st of all, i dont like mix and match bodykits...they just dont flow well. then the over fenders are too damn big for those skinny tires. it makes the car look like it has -60 offset

Logikal is there anything you ever like?????????????????.......................... (I know I'm going to regret this, we are entering the mind of the Logikal, a place where logic is a state of matter................nothing makes sense, 1+1=5m^2c)

Well, it's true, those rear wheels need a wide lip on them cause they're a little bit to much on the inside.

hmmm...what do i like?

i like stretched tires on a wide rim.

i like an offset so low that youd need a slight negative camber to fit the wheel.

i like 8/6 spring rates

i like a nice quick gripping lsd

i like big butts and i cannot lie

i like nice low cars and bronze wheels.

i like the stock s14 silvia k's spoiler

i like no spoilers

i like overfenders

i like bride brix's

i like big slotted brakes

i like alot fo things...i think i just hate more things.

i like big butts and i cannot lie
i love how you just threw that in there

that thread was retarded. and the only one talking about things that were right was nissan fanatic... those guys talking about a 10 sec 240, where the f*ck is he from, the moon. and the maxima being a better car than the 240... WTF!
i hope our forum never ends up anything like that... almost everyone in there had no idea what they were talking about. Ebonics translator...

I like big and I cannot lie... that's some funny stuff the way it just popped up in the middle of your post. ha, made me laugh...

Yeah,
notice he is pictured at the rear end of his car, hmmmmm................coincident or not????

All those guys were idiots, not even the 04' Cobra supercharged can catch the R34, not on the 1/4 mile, not on handling, not on anything. what ever you are to do get the real Hp which is like what 400Hp from a 2.6L I-6 vs 395Hp froma 4.6L V8.................... AND THE SKYLINE WINS WITH A MARGIN OF........... Oh wait hold on.............(tension arises).........................OH AND HERE COMES THE COBRA NOW........................ WOOOHOOoooooooooo

i like big butts to but i have to lie all the time it sucks only bein able to have one girl its just to hard to stop lookin:evillol:

the supidity of that thread made my sperm retarded... shit.....

LMAO HAhahahah nisco. I wish they would bring in a R34 to the next Car and driver super tuner challenge, so these idiots can see that this car is in the level of porsches and vettes, for some reason, they think that the Skyline and Supra are like the stang and camaro of japan. fools, I would like to see their faces when an R34 smokes the shit out of this new Cobra, I like Cobras and would want one, but you just can't keep a R34 and a Cobra in the same class, unless you are talking in terms of beauty of the R34 and Elenor, then that is a match, elenor was beutiful, sexy, and damn gets my jolies rolling, I get goose bumps at the mention of her, and she can't and I repeat CANNOT!!!!!!!!!!!! be put in the same class as the current Cobra. She is 35yrs old and pu out an est 400Hp DAMN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Look at this beauty
http://home.halden.net/harlem/shelby/gallery01/ele6.jpg http://home.halden.net/harlem/shelby/gallery01/67-shel-gt500.jpg http://home.halden.net/harlem/shelby/gallery02/03.jpg
How so SEXY.

i love the gone in 60 stang.

way better than that new p.o.s. 2005 mustang..or is it 2006? for some reason it reminds me of the new galant

You talking of the GT-R???????
cuz if you are that is not kool, you have to give them credit, that thing was tight, from the design to the hardware, well except for thos bulky tail lights. I think the stang has had some good styling lately, from the 69s' and up, except for certain models.

LMAO HAhahahah nisco. I wish they would bring in a R34 to the next Car and driver super tuner challenge, so these idiots can see that this car is in the level of porsches and vettes, for some reason, they think that the Skyline and Supra are like the stang and camaro of japan. fools, I would like to see their faces when an R34 smokes the shit out of this new Cobra, I like Cobras and would want one, but you just can't keep a R34 and a Cobra in the same class, unless you are talking in terms of beauty of the R34 and Elenor, then that is a match, elenor was beutiful, sexy, and damn gets my jolies rolling, I get goose bumps at the mention of her, and she can't and I repeat CANNOT!!!!!!!!!!!! be put in the same class as the current Cobra. She is 35yrs old and pu out an est 400Hp DAMN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
tis true tis very very true
ignorance is bliss... riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight

How about back in 98, I saw a 98 cobra and a 98 eclipse spyder race, and you will be suprised that from the line to third gear they were neck to neck, then the cobra won, now imagine what a skyline would have done.
I vote they should have a world wide Auto challenge, where all car manufucturers race their car in stock form for bragging rights in thier repsective classes.

Stock car raceing huh.. hummmmmm

ooo hey everyone!! :sunglasse

If domestic markets were as competitive as imports, we would never see all the shitty cars we see here every now and then. Look at toyota, nissan, honda, and mitsu, they have being competing for so long and we the consumer reap the benefits.

We all need to line up and kick Meat in the nuts just for being a jackass. There is no way that he beat a GTR Skyline with his Cobra. I raced a cobra in my non-turbo DOHC Stealth once and he didn't beat me that bad, so they aren't that fast. That Idea of "stock" car racing would deffinately do nothing but good for the auto industry. Although the US is finally starting to make some good cars like the new chevy cobalt that is coming out. A car the size of a cavalier but with a supercharger on it stock. And the Saturn Redline, the SRT-4 well I dont know if that one counts because its still a neon, but whatever it's fast. Now if the US would only make a fast rear wheel drive compact, that would be cool

You know the dumbest thing is that I smoked the shit out of a 98 Cobra with my 95 T-Ram, later I raced the new 00 Cobra, without the supercharge, he smoked me like hell, and that was cuz my T-ram had 95000 miles and his was new.
But what was embarrassing was we were both smoked by a TT Supra, and I am not talking of 5-10 car lengths, I am talking of being left behind with at least 1/8 of a mile, we ran for about 1.2 miles and we didn't see him till the next light. That ios why I ended up selling my Firebird, V8 6sp and I still got smoked by a I6. So screw him and his Bra, I will put him in his place with my Bird, all I have to do is borrow it from my neighbour.

Man, all this talk about what will beat what and everyone bashing each other with whatever arsenal they have really makes this a forum of fanatics. Smells good, don't it? Plus, nowadays, its pretty much the matter of who's driving and what you have done to the car. I don't know if anyone already said this, I just happen to come across this on the 4th page.

Cobra R's Are Hella Fast...... They Could Take A Stock Gtr Down. Hell With A Simple Pulley Change On The Cobra R It Would Walk All Over The Gtr. Just Because Its A Ford And It Doesn't Truely Live Up To The Original Mustangs Glory Doesn't Meen Its Not Fast.

Elenor Was A Gross Hp Rating.... Much Lower Than The New Cobra's Net Rating.

The R34 Gtr Puts Out About 350 Crank Hp Then It Transfers It To 4 Wheels Through A Dog Box..... Which I'm Sorry Is Extremely Strong But A Bit More Restrictive (because Of Gear Design) Than A Standard Transmission.

The Cobra R Would Compete With A Skyline Gtr Of Any Year.

http://www.jbskyline.net/R34/GTR/Specs/ - SKYLINE SPECS

http://www.downtownford.com/svt000/cobra/00cobrspc.htm - COBRA R SPECS


IF WE ARE COMPARING A V-SPEC RACING MODEL TO THE COBRA THAN WE ARE IN A DIFFERENT CLASS AND IT SURPASSES THE COBRA.

Dude you just proved my point, You were talking about the Cobra R which is a better class of mustang, and it has the same 0-60mph as the stock R34, why not compare the R to the V-spec R34???? and don't forget the skyline is still under that stupid rule that Japan limitted it's cars to like is it 290hp. Motorex said it best, all they needed was a screw driver and a hand held gizmo and they punched out 400hp from changing factory specs. At 400hp out of a stock R34 the Cobra R will be screwed, killed, ran over and basically FUCKED!!!!!!!!!!
Plain and simple the cobra cannot compete with a skyline, it is outclassed, I am not an import or domestic fanatic I just like any car that can fullfill my need for speed be it Ford, Nissan, Chevy or even a freaking geo, if it looks and drives good to my specs I like it.
I could kill a Cobra easy with my T-bird all day, Me and the 00' Cobra were totaly put in our place by the Supra, so you can imagine what a skyline would have done to us????
And watch what you say about Elenor, she was a GODESS of her Time and still is, even import nuts and tons of ricer will agree, She is a queen in her own right. now leave it at that!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! NUFFF SAID.

But On An Equal Token You Really Think Ford Let Out All The Juice Of The Cobra Or Cobra R? The Cobra R And Cobra Are The Same Car With Out The Racing Suspension Package..... The Cobra Out Handles A Stock R34 Gtr By Alot And The R Is Even More. Supras Are Faster And Out Handle A Gtr Stock For Stock. Seriously, You Are Trying To Talk Down On A Car That Is On Par Or Better Than A Car You Enjoy.

And I Love The Original Gt500's And Fastback Elenor Editions But They Are Not That Great To Today's Standards And The Comment Made About It Was Untrue In Its Fullest.

http://www.engine-power.com/ford/mustang_cobra.html

THE NORMAL SVT COBRA SPECS.

Dude you are LOST, almost convienced me (not), till you said the R and regular SVT are almost the same, I've loved the R since it first came out, and you can't fool me on that one. The R and SVT are two TOTALLY different cars, they share the body, chassy (except for some light weight mods on the R) and the tranny, but thats where it ends. The N/A V8 in the R is the same as the one in the Lincoln navigator with a revised intake manifold, the interior was stripped. The R put out 395hp, they say with better head work it would have been capable of more than 430hp, but ford cheaped out and just used a stock block with better engine management. They could have done some good engineering and achieved even better results with the 4.6, but I know for a damn fact, Ford is very cheap, they love to use engines they already have instead of building a new engine for a car. When they need more power, they just go get a bigger engine from a truck or SUV and there you go, CHEAP HORSE POWER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The reason for this argument is really not the power either is putting, my opinion is the R34 is made a whole lot better than the Cobra, and it shows, and still the GTR is faster, a cobra CANNOT defeat a v-spec GTR, go play GT3. You go do a pulley change on your R and let some idiot retune the GTR and tell me who reaches the finish line first, OH and by the way, the Supra can never out handle a skyline, NEVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! even in the GT Races, the skyline killed most near anything, it was left racing porches and ferraris, even the saleen was killed, incase you missed that, KILLED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I would wish to have an original Cobra R, and also a V-spec GTR and almost 50 other cars from elenor to ferrari, but give respect where it is due. Even in the GT classes, ford has been loosing, Viper and Vette have been killing everyone else, they smoked the porches, but the porches killed the saleens, and the same porches were killed by the skylines. It isn't a shame to loose to a Skyline whether you got a porche or vette, IT IS THE HOLY GRAIL OF ALMOST ANY ENTHUSIAST.

NUFF SAID!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Seriously This Is A Never Ending Arguement.... Why Because Mod For Mod The Cobra Still Comes Out On Top. Arizona Speed And Marine Just Did A Svt Cobra Retune And Got 75hp And 85 Ft-lbs Just With The Computer Alone. Then They Added Exhaust, Intake , And Pullies And Re-tuned And Got 35 More Hp And Ft-lbs. The Svt And R Are The Same Car With Suspension Mods And Slight Body/interior Differences. The Motors Are The Same Breed But Like You Said The Motor Comes From A Navi In The R.... And It Makes 15 More Hp Than Stock.

Ford Product Quality Is Top Notch When It Comes To Cars... Its The Trucks That Have Problems. All The Track Testing Numbers On The Skyline Say Differently Than The Svt And R Cobras. Now The V-spec And V-spec Ii Are A Completely Different Story.... Those Have Major Differences Over The Stock Cars And Will Out Perform The Cobras.

I Wouldn't Want A Skyline..... I've Had Tons Of Oppotunities To Buy A Skyline Legal And I Don't Want One, They Are Nothing Special.

Subaru Wrx Sti Spec Ra Type C Cars Are Twice As Good As The Skylines In Japan Year For Year Model For Model.... If We Could Get Those Here I Would Buy One. I Have A Friend Who Builds Them Here But They Are Not The Same Because Of The Added Weight For The American Door Beams And Bumpers And Such.

15Hp more are you crazy????????????? The Navigator motor put out around 310-330Hp the R put out 395hp, thats more than a 15hp diff. You can imagine how just adding a decent intake system got them to 395hp. You can mod a Cobra block to put out 500hp N/a after a complete blueprint of the engine, but you can get 750hp out of the same 2.6L I6 by bolting on shit, the skylines and imports have proved that they are built way way better than domestic engines, check these links out.

http://nissanperformancemag.com/february04/nerds/

http://nissanperformancemag.com/march04/nerds/

Try pumping out, not 700hp, not even 600hp try, 500hp from bolt ons like NOS, Turbo, or SC, and you tell me how far your Cobra will keep that power up.
I know, I know there are 500hp and 600hp Cobras out there on stock internals, I know guys with them, but don't forget that that is a V8 4.6L, 5.4L engines, and at that power level they become unreliable, there folks with 750hp to the wheels of their skylines and supras running all day, try that with a Ford engine and see what happens. And what kills me is that the skylines and supras are the Mustang and camaros of J-land, yet the level of engineering and performance is rivalled here by 80K cars. The so well respected M3 we finally got, is like a cobra on the street in UK, this was the first time we got the exact power output as that of englands, before our M3s' were weaker. Hell the 200hp SVT contour we have is the baseline Ford Mondeo in britain, they don't have the stock contour, then they have a performance version putting out 240hp N/A, the escort they had when I lived there was way more beautiful than the piece of crap we have here.

I am not saying that Ford cannot build quality cars, I am saying they build crapy cars for the states, I don't know if you read when Ford built a mustang for Germany, they built a whole new Cobra putting out 750HP as the stock Stang, can you believe that 750hp, no 296hp GT, no 200hp V6, and this is coming from an american auto company. How do you build crapy cars for your own and then when building for someone else you take them the cream of the crop. So sorry if I have no respect for domestics, it's not that I like foreign shit, I have been around the world to see what they make out there compared to the shit they sale over here. Hell Britain had the GTO before us as a Holden HSV back when the Cadillac catera came out, guess what, they brought us the V6 and then built the HSV with a V8 for UK, then 9yrs later, they change the lights and some small upgrades and start bragging about the new reborn GTO, FUCK that man, that is bull shit, How does a country that pays almost $1.50 for a liter of gas which is around $4.50 per gallon get the 5.7L V8 and yet we get a 3.0 V6.

And also, if those wrx were so formidable why aren't they #1 on any races, other than off road rally, they cannot beat a skyline, this was a car built to dominate the 1/4 mile and built to have unmatched handling. Sorry but there is no way a cobra can out handle a Skyline not even a freaking WRX, no way. If a skyline can beat the same porches that beat the saleens, and is said to have the capability to run with the dodge and vettes?????? how do you expect me to believe that a Cobra is better, these are professsionals saying this, not your every day ricer.

Sorry 4 the 2 page lecture. NUFF SAID!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I wonder how many folks would chhose a WRX over a skyline........................................... .Hmmmmmmmm........................................ ..................... Anyone????????????????????????????

have you seen any spec shets or test results or are you talking for your opinions? There are more WRX's sold than skylines. I'm sorry but .94g's is not that great of a handling car! The WRX STI SPEC RA Type C is has 1.01g on the skid pad 335 awhp, shorter stop distance by 15 feet, 0-60 in 4.4 seconds, and a quarter of 12.9 sec.

Lets see a stock r34 Skyline do that..... it can't.

That WRX you are talking about is obviously not a standard model. It's a performance model. How does it compare to the R34 GTR V-spec? DOn't get me wrong, I like Imprezas too, but I would deffinately rather take a Skyline anyday.

There you go again tryin to compare the STOCK Skyline to upgraded versions of other cars, first you started with the GTR Vs Cobra R, then now the WRX Spec RA type C, these are upgraded versions, why not the stock Cobra, WRX, and GTR, then the Cobra R, STI Type C, and V-spec GTR, the outcome will be the same in both I bet, Skyline #1, WRX #2, and Cobra #3, OH, and don't forget that the Cobra is already an up graded GT, and the GT is an upgraded V6 stang.
V-Spec GTR will smoke both!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

By the way, I got this guy with a 02 Cobra with the Cobra R front facia and Hood, and the big wing, it is silky Black, got to have one of them bitches, but with a saleen rear bumper, the ASS looks incomplete the way they left it hanging up there like those NACARS.



NUFF SAID.