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2JZ detail help!


customminatures
07-18-2004, 08:03 PM
Hey everyone. Was wondering if anyone has detailed pics of the 2JZ. I need to know where the spark plug wires go and all. I am trying to build one of the most detailed F7F supra 2JZ motors out there to go in my hilux pick up! Let me know if anyone out there can help! Ive searched all day! Thanks-Matt

Vric
07-18-2004, 08:17 PM
DID you try Google Image search (http://images.google.ca/images?q=2JZ&hl=fr&lr=&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wi) ? I found many usefull pictures like this one:

http://mkiv.supras.org.nz/images/articles/ttengine3.jpg

blueboost
07-18-2004, 08:48 PM
http://store5.yimg.com/I/supra_1794_46439556
http://store5.yimg.com/I/supra_1770_1881288
http://store5.yimg.com/I/supra_1770_25269960
http://store5.yimg.com/I/supra_1794_436761
http://store5.yimg.com/I/supra_1793_13427499
http://store5.yimg.com/I/supra_1770_21330723
http://www.mkiv.com/techarticles/parts/new_engine/2JZ-GTE1s.jpg
http://www.mkiv.com/techarticles/parts/new_engine/2JZ-GTE2s.jpg

blueboost
07-18-2004, 08:52 PM
double post in case you didn't see my text:

grab em and save em cause I'm not hosting em so how long they'll be there is beyond me. ;)

customminatures
07-18-2004, 09:00 PM
thnx for the pics! very helpfull! where the hell are the spark plug wires? I am assuming they are under the top cover plate like on integras and such. but where is the distributer? thnx again for the rapid responce!

supratuner
07-18-2004, 10:28 PM
as ive learned, and been told

theres almost nothing that can beat a fixed up supra, especially when u can spend $100,000 or less making one extremly fast, hell it costs a lot more for those European cars that are extremly heavy, and then u have to spend a lot of money to do any thing to the engine

show me a car, besides those funny car drag cars, and those cars with jet engines in them at the bonneville flats, that can beat a supra, id like to see it



nice engines,i just had to include that part above, the 2JZ is a very good engine

:evillol:

jswillmon
07-18-2004, 11:48 PM
http://store5.yimg.com/I/supra_1794_436761




Is it just me or does that look like a bag of weed on the top of that motor?:smokin:

hirofkd
07-19-2004, 12:05 AM
thnx for the pics! very helpfull! where the hell are the spark plug wires? I am assuming they are under the top cover plate like on integras and such. but where is the distributer? thnx again for the rapid responce!

I don't think the 2JG has one.

Today's performance engines (heck, even the VG30 from 1991) don't use the disributor. They have one of those direct discharge system, where each plug has a discharger (or something I forgot its name), and the timing is controled by the engine management unit.

At a contest long time ago, I remember seeing a 300ZX model with an aftermarket distributor. It also had spark plug wires attached to the side of the cylnder head between the exhaust header. sigh...

nis.k.a.
07-19-2004, 12:28 AM
The 2JZ doesn't have a distributor. They use direct ignition. Since the valve cover is molded on the 2F2F and Tamiya version there is nothing you can really do. If you wanted ignition wire detail you have to run 6 wires from the back of the wire cover to the back of the block which is only going to be (in 1:24 scale) 1/4 inch, if that.

Layla's Keeper
07-19-2004, 12:50 AM
Umm, I know of a lot of guys with Barracudas, Camaros, Chevelles, Fairlanes, Mustangs, Darts, GTO's, GS455's, Firebirds, AMX's, Challengers, Chargers, Coronets, Super Bees, 4-4-2's, Rebel Machines, *takes a deep breath* Grand Nationals, Impalas, Comets, Cyclones, Torinos, Cougars, Javelins, Novas, Corvettes, Vipers, El Caminos, GTX's, 300's, Catalinas, and Galaxies that would disagree with you.

Hell, pick up this month's issue of Hot Rod magazine and check out the Pump Gas Drags. Here's the top ten. Keep in mind, the rules were full interior, DOT tires, and 93 Octane.

Robert Schmitt
Oceanside, NY
'67 Chevy Chevelle
Average: 9.40 @ 141 mph

TOP 10
1) Kenneth Close
Munhall, PA
1934 Ford Three-Window Coupe
Average: 9.44 @ 145.36

2) John Cunningham
Cary, IL
1968 Chevy Nova
Average: 9.47 @ 150.44

3) Raymond Doughty
Pleasant Valley, NY
1970 Chevy Nova SS
Average: 9.58 @ 137.82

4) Mike Thompson
Roscoe, IL
1986 Chevy S10
Average: 9.70 @ 139.90

5) Don Vargo
Redford, MI
1969 Dodge Charger
Average: 9.76 @ 134.34

6) James Pranis
Pittsburgh, PA
1968 Dodge Charger
Average: 9.83 @ 135.66

7) Mel Graham
Tulsa, OK
1969 Chevy Camaro
Average: 9.85 @ 137.61

8) Chris Johnson
Houston, TX
1969 Chevy Camaro
Average: 9.95 @ 137.60

9) Tom Hunsaker
Springboro, Ohio
1969 Plymouth Barracuda
Average: 9.99 @ 136.53

10) Brian Clarke
New Castle, DE
1969 Chevy Nova
Average: 10.0 @ 134.67


http://www.hotrod.com/hotrod/eventcoverage/113_pgd_07_l.jpg
The Chevelle that took the #1 spot.
http://www.hotrod.com/hotrod/eventcoverage/113_pgd_62_l.jpg
And the '34 Ford Coupe that took #2.

Now, tell me where's the consistent 9second Supra that runs 93 Octane, isn't gutted out, and doesn't need slicks?

Turbo Monster
07-19-2004, 01:02 AM
I think he may have meant import muscle, not american, not much can beat that.

I agree with Jesse, somthings afoot! Not many people could afford that much stuff with a good job. emphasis on MANY!

SupaMan89T
07-19-2004, 04:06 AM
LOL umm if im seein right that 34 coupe is on BIG slicks and the titan motorsports supra runs a 8.90 on bfgoodwrench drag radials and i do belive it runs on 93 octane BUT i could be wrong about the fuel part not trying 2 ''own'' you or anything but there is a supra that runs that and its full body and not gutted.

customminatures
07-19-2004, 10:10 AM
rhanks for all the info guys! I suppose I will just run 6 wires from the back of the cover to knowwhere! lol I guess I will have to get my detail from vaccum lines and such! I wont rest till this motor is awesomly detailed! thanks again everyone!

willimo
07-19-2004, 10:49 AM
Go to your local library, they often have the Chilton or Haynes maintenance manuals, and may have it for the Supra. You can use that to find out where the wires go to, and what the ignition source looks like. If not, just take a little note pad to the local bookstore (the ones at the auto parts store are often in plastic) and sketch it.

blueboost
07-19-2004, 12:40 PM
Umm, I know of a lot of guys with Barracudas, Camaros, Chevelles, Fairlanes, Mustangs, Darts, GTO's, GS455's, Firebirds, AMX's, Challengers, Chargers, Coronets, Super Bees, 4-4-2's, Rebel Machines, *takes a deep breath* Grand Nationals, Impalas, Comets, Cyclones, Torinos, Cougars, Javelins, Novas, Corvettes, Vipers, El Caminos, GTX's, 300's, Catalinas, and Galaxies that would disagree with you.

Hell, pick up this month's issue of Hot Rod magazine and check out the Pump Gas Drags. Here's the top ten. Keep in mind, the rules were full interior, DOT tires, and 93 Octane.

etc..

Now, tell me where's the consistent 9second Supra that runs 93 Octane, isn't gutted out, and doesn't need slicks?

Hey. not to pour gas onto the open fire, but lets keep in mind that not only can a supra run consistant 9's (the 2JZ in paisley's Tundra is running what? 7's!!) but they do so reliably, without constant rebuilds, and when you think about it, they are a much more balanced well rounded car when compared to most of those cars you mentioned. You can take your 9 second Supra from the drag track to the auto-x meet and be equally at home.

edit: :lol2: funny stuff jswillmon!

Turbo Monster
07-19-2004, 12:47 PM
I wholly agree with blue boost, Supras are very reliable and awesome cars, and have serious balls when a 2JZ-GTE engine is dropped in them.

I've ridden in this one myself:

www.raretoy.com

It's ungodly fast. Quicker than my uncle's Chevelle on racing alcohol! The chevelle has about 895 horses, and more torque, but the supra is seriously faster.....

Layla's Keeper
07-19-2004, 06:57 PM
A: That '34 didn't make its passes on slicks. The event rules mandated DOT legal street tires. Didn't matter how wide they were, but they had to be DOT legal.

B: Show me an autocross prepped Supra that runs 9's. Go ahead. Show it to me. And did I say this had anything to do with handling? No. Supratuner posted this.

theres almost nothing that can beat a fixed up supra, especially when u can spend $100,000 or less making one extremly fast, hell it costs a lot more for those European cars that are extremly heavy, and then u have to spend a lot of money to do any thing to the engine

show me a car, besides those funny car drag cars, and those cars with jet engines in them at the bonneville flats, that can beat a supra, id like to see it

You want to talk handling we'll talk the Supra's lackluster international competition record (or lack thereof), but strip for strip, I've yet to see a streetable Supra that can consistently run 9's on DOT tires with a full interior and backhalved chassis.

willimo
07-20-2004, 12:41 AM
No nine second anything is equally at home anywhere as it is on the drag strip.

That's the LAW. Law of nature. God would smite that car.

hirofkd
07-20-2004, 01:58 AM
You know the ranking doesn't mean much, because it's not the car that makes them 9 seconders, but it's a matter of the entineers, who knows about the right parts, right equipment, most efficient modifications within the rules, not to mention the driver and a little luck. The prizes are awarded to the people, not to the cars themselves, aren't they? I'm sure this Mr. Robert Schmitt can make any car a 9 second car.

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