b18b build up

hey guys, i just bought a b18b from a 92 integra ls. I have a 95 civic, and want to build this integra engine up and transplant it in. I asked this question in the civic forum, and haven't gotten any decent responses to the questions i have. I want to build this up all motor, no nitruos, turbo and i don't want to do the ls/vtec swap. i think i want to swap in ITR pistons, stainless steel valves, bronze valve quides, crower cams, vavle springs, and retainers. I am wondering if anyone can help me out with choosin an online place to buy, as well make recommendations as to which brands to buy? any help is much appreciated, as i am doing this build up myself and have never done aynthign like this before. thanks a lot.

Have you tried B17a.com He's got really good prices. You can also check the for sale forums on g2ic.com they always have lots of goodies for sale.

Becca

Originally posted by GirlRacer82
Have you tried B17a.com He's got really good prices. You can also check the for sale forums on g2ic.com they always have lots of goodies for sale.

Becca

B17A.com wont help him because he's running a B18B. Anyways, yea just check around, that stuff is everywhere.;)

why dont you want to do the LS/Vtec swap? and why not turbo? your not gonna get boat loads of power out of just putting in new pistons and retainers and such.

jsut because the ls/vtec and turbo are just going to cost too much. I'm not looking for tons of power, i'm hoping to push around 180-200hp..i don't know if that is possible or not...opinions?

well, if your not lookin for lots of power, and cheap, new pistons and retainers and things of the like are the way to go.....i was just asking for my own sake why not turbo and the ls/vtec swap. good luck

ps....try www.importparts.com www.optauto.com www.jdmhondaparts.com www.jcwhitney.com

is 180-200hp obtainable from building up a b18b, or should i set my sights a little lower?

180...maybe...200...wouldnt bet, well. not without spending way more money than a vtec would run you. my ls/vtec conversion cost me like 600bucks..

going new cams, valvesprings, valves, retainers...unless you are doing this all yourself is gonna cost you some major money. and if you are then the labor is just going to piss you off...

you can get almost 190 out of an ls/vtec stock if you do it right. and it is a lot less work than an engine rebuild...just the piston job and valve job would run like a grand...

180-200 is askin a bit too much out of the LS. You should start by some high c/r pistons, aggressive cams, new retainers and valvesprings, then a chipped ECU to optimize the high RPMs of the cams, and if your runnin high RPMs you might wanna get a block girdle. www.z10engineering.com

oh yeah, lose the aluminum wing!

HOOKING UP THE B18 IS A GOOD IDEA. I HAVE A 94 INTEGRA THAT I'VE MODIFIED FOR UNDER $3000.I NOT GONNA TELL YOU WHAT I'VE DONE TO IT BUT I RAN 12.8'S IN ATCO NEW JERSEY( ALL MOTOR) LAST SUMMER. I KNOW YOU LIVE IN CANADA BUT IF YOU CALL THIS GUY HE WILL HOOK YOU UP. ...THE PLACE IS CALLED Grand Turismo Motor Sports AND THE MANAGER IS CHRI LIOU# 609-895-0688 EMAIL GTxMotors@AOL.COM

thanks for the info, but why wonj't you tell me what you have done?

I JUST GOT IT FRANKENSTEINED......:flash:

well, i'm want to keep it a b18b, i don't want to do any variation of a ls/vtec. I'll probably just do itr pistons, crower cams, aem cam gears, aem pulleys, aem cai, dc sports (or the like) header, 2.25 cat back exhaust. Think i can manage about 180whp? WHat do you all think?

Originally posted by soul180
well, i'm want to keep it a b18b, i don't want to do any variation of a ls/vtec. I'll probably just do itr pistons, crower cams, aem cam gears, aem pulleys, aem cai, dc sports (or the like) header, 2.25 cat back exhaust. Think i can manage about 180whp ? WHat do you all think?


...nope

YOU MIGHT WANNA CLEAN YOUR HEAD..AND YOU MIGHT WANNA GET A RACING CLUTCH.. I SUGGEST A JG STAGE 3..YOU MIGHT BE ABLE TO PUSH 180 BUT AT HIGH RPM. THERE'S ALOT OF PEOPLE THAT THINK THAT JUST BECAUSE THEIR CAR HAS 200 HORSEPOWER OR 250 HORSEPOWER THAT ITS FAST. I MEAN YEAH IT'S FAST BUT AT WHAT RPM DO YOU NEED TO BE ON BE4 YOUR ACTUALLY DOING 200-300 HP. IN MY CAR MY RPM FLYS TO 8 BE4 I EVEN DROP TO SECOND GEAR..HONESTLY IF I WERE RACING A CAR FOR THREE MILES ON THE HIGHWAY I'D PROBABLY LOOSE..BUT IN THE 1/4 MILE ITS DIFFERENT CAUSE I HAVE HP AT THE FLYWHEEL ASWELL AS THE WHEELS..

ok, what can be expected from the build up i wrote about earlier? Sorry, i am also thinking about a stage 2 clutch, itr flywheel if it's not too expensive and if it'll fit. Thanks

Umm...you are aware that the 1992 LS had a B18A and not a B18B right?

Originally posted by MARKONE609
HOOKING UP THE B18 IS A GOOD IDEA. I HAVE A 94 INTEGRA THAT I'VE MODIFIED FOR UNDER $3000.I NOT GONNA TELL YOU WHAT I'VE DONE TO IT BUT I RAN 12.8'S IN ATCO NEW JERSEY( ALL MOTOR) LAST SUMMER. I KNOW YOU LIVE IN CANADA BUT IF YOU CALL THIS GUY HE WILL HOOK YOU UP. ...THE PLACE IS CALLED Grand Turismo Motor Sports AND THE MANAGER IS CHRI LIOU# 609-895-0688 EMAIL GTxMotors@AOL.COM

Ok you say you have the "frankenstein" engine. But what all have you done? What suspension mods? What about weight? What wheels and tires? What have you done to your bottom end? How much HP are you pushing? I don't believe that for under $3,000 you hit 12.8s.....or is the 1/8th mile??:sun:

92 ls has a b18a? what's the difference? hmmm....

you people who say you cant dont know shit..i am a honda machanic
you dont remember the old magazine the ALL MOTOR LS that was putting out i think 220 somthing hp and not much dont to the bottom end and the compression ratio was very low and the ting is that it was in a 96 rs body ummm that goes too show people dont know what their talking about they just read too many books...i know people that runs low 12s in a integra LS all motor even an all motor crx full interior that runs 11s with and ls motor the skunk 2 guy has fully gutted interior and runs 10s? vtec isnt there a magazine people are talking about getting rid of vtec?

I recently bought a '99 GS Integ. I don't want to do the vtec hybrid thing either, revving past 9 grand just doesnt seem right. How would one get 220 hp out of an ls motor with a stock bottom end, no vtec, and no turbo? Tell me, cause I need to start doing some research before I put too many miles on my engine (got 16,300 miles on it as of today).

Originally posted by Raf
I recently bought a '99 GS Integ. I don't want to do the vtec hybrid thing either, revving past 9 grand just doesnt seem right. How would one get 220 hp out of an ls motor with a stock bottom end, no vtec, and no turbo? Tell me, cause I need to start doing some research before I put too many miles on my engine (got 16,300 miles on it as of today).


so basically what you are asking is how can you make an extra 80 HP without changing anything. it's not possible.

In response to hybridDC2:

relax dude, you don't have to be so blunt, I'm not an idiot. I was just reffering to the quote left by
b18lscivicracer : "ALL MOTOR LS that was putting out i think 220 somthing hp and not much dont to the bottom end and the compression ratio was very low and the ting is that it was in a 96 rs body ummm that goes too show people dont know what their talking about they just read too many books..."
It sounds to me like he's saying it is possible to get lots of hp out of the motor without beefing up the bottom end too much. I was doubting it, so I wanted some supporting evidence, thats all. Personally, I want to be able to run mid to low 14's reliably as a daily driver in my Teg. Thats all I need, that would suit me just fine. I want to know what my options are, and so far, spending countless hours on the net doing research, checking out other peoples rides, I've decided a low boost turbo application is the best way to go. Please correct me if I'm wrong. I like my car, but I am not willing to spend over 4 grand on upgrading the engine, I would rather just by another car, whereas with my '93 MR2 that I loved, I was willing to shell out the big bucks for a turbo engine swap, but too bad that cars gone now (some shitface wrecked it). Anyway, you seem to be making comments such as
"so basically what you are asking is how can you make an extra 80 HP without changing anything. it's not possible,"
can you please elaborate on how to make good hp out of the ls motor, without vtec'ing it?

Okay... let's lay this out:
* Make-your-own cold air intake ($30)
* bigger headers (perhaps from a B18C1? I don't know jack about the exhaust headers on a B18A/B) ($100 to buy used b18c1's)
* high-flow cat-back (have it custom made, save money), 2.25" should be fine ($175 w/ muffler)
* Custom forged rods (http://www.theoldone.com/components/rods/B18_rods.html) ($365)
* High compression pistons (ITR 2000/2001 JDM 11.2:1, so it's still a decent daily driver) ($500)
* Aggressive camhaft profiles ($750?)
* adjustable cam gears, any brand ($200)
* underdrive pulleys ($350 direct from unorthodox)
* lightened flywheel (11 lbs) ($75, see http://www.sohfast.com/integra.htm)
* At least a Stage II clutch ($500?)

* Consider valves/springs/retainer replacement
* ECU mod with higher redline (8000-8200 rpm), since these mods should lead to a much better high-rpm power response ($??? around 500?)
* VERY Extensive tuning

This adds up to around $3500. a lot of money, but It'd be possible to get a B18A/B near 180whp with this work.

There should be a number of things that can be done cheaper than I've listed, and the ECU mod might not be necessary. I'd consider it the lowest-priority mod in building up an all-motor B18A/B. It won't see gains like the B18C's see.

My friend has a 92 ls and he runs 14.20's and 14.30's all motor. He has stock bottom end also. He has crower 62404 cams, aem cam gears, chipped ecu, your usual I/H/E and test pipe, also the power sterring system has nbeen removed and a/c also. He ran these times with srock clutch and street tires on stock 14" steelies. I am currently tring to buy the cams off of him b/c he is going turbo. To all who say the b18b/a is worthless this is for you:finger: .

Marasmus,

The b18c1 exhaust manifold will not fit your car. It will bolt up to the head but it is longer and has no bung for the O2 sensor.

threethirteen what did u do to ur ls/vtec and how much did it cost u

threethirteen what did u do to ur ls/vtec and how much did it cost u

Im doing an LS build up the reason i am doing it is for the turbo, if you want 180-200 hp without a turbo then you well spend a hell of a lot of money trust me i looked. but if u want to buy a turbo then frankenstein it or keep the normal LS but go with the VTEC if u dont want a turbo

i:iagree: wit whtteg...

also might want to look in to port and polish for sum resonable gains thats jus my 2 cents

i say bore and stroke that b18, and i'd say try to get a high compression

Well if you have the b18a1 block the older generation, yea you have to rebuild the inside, if it have tons of miles on it. Get all those, but if your motor is in good condition, I would slap on a turbo kit and it can hit easy 200 + hp. The cost of the fixing internal can be some $$, but turbo is a lil more but well worth it. Good luck

Holy old-friggin-post batman! I suggest you only respond to posts on the first page. If you are looking for an answer to a question on an old post, then by all means, post on it, but just to make comments is pointless.

lol