laser

hey guys' fresh kill :-)
ok, i'm at burgur king and we are all parked with our cars like usual, and my freind comes up to me and is like
"dude i got this guy to race you" (i don't normaly race i just go their but i race sometimes.)
i'm like "cool, what dose he drive?"
freind "'91 plymoth laser w/ boost controler intake headers exhaust and intercooler"
me "i dunno"
freind "come on you know you want to"
me "well where?"
freind "penny st."
me "it's worth a shot"
freind "sweet, i'll go tell em"
me "cool"
ok so we drive to penny st. and my freind jumps out and launches us.
take off and my first gear is really long (like 45mph) but i hit the gas way to hard and spin the tires (told ya i'm not the best racer) and i loose traction for like 1-2 seconds. he chirps his tires from the dig and in my first gear he hangs bye my front fender and slowly gains on me, then i hit second gear and take off but then hit 3rd (could have been 4th gear) and started to gain on me. (dang turbos have 2 be so fast, jk love the dsm) then for some reason i just start to pull on him and gain 1 1/2 car lengths and then shift into 3rd gear at 5800 rpm then just kept pullen from their till the end of the race, i won bye about 2-2 1/2 car lengths. :sunglasse
i'm so happy i'm sry i had to tell some1 and my girlfreind dosn't appriceat me doing that, ok i lied i skiped a date with her to go to the races. thought she would understand.:eek7:
well thanx and sorry the race wasn't interesting :disappoin but i had fun bye now :-)

what do you have done too your car, modd wise.....

stock engin just a 1.5 eibachi pro-active lowering kit and egal f1 low pro tires but just a stock engin with k&n and thats it but she handles like a dream :-) and sorry about that i have a 98 mustang gt

Dude...I know racing is fun...but ass always come before racing...

oh lol, yea but i dunno i didn't go for like 2 weeks and wanted to go 2 the races ok, o yea it was the guys first race incase any1 was woundering.

not bad for a first race

you need to get your priorities straight buddy. . .

first off nice kill, second WTF were you thinking? You blew off your GF to race your car, thats a big no no, if she finds out she will flip out on you. I know mine would. I know racing might be a fun adrenaline rush but it dont beat a vagina. . .

with those mods the laser should be a 13 second car. Your stang should be mid to high 14's at best?But none the less good kill.

how in the hell is that a 13 second car??

how in the hell is that a 13 second car??

The lasers come with the 14b turbo im currently running in my car atm. A laser is just like a 1g gsx. They come awd and 14b turboed from the factory. Just like the gsx you add a boost controller, exhaust, intake its a 13 second car my friend.

this was front wheel drive (i didn't know they came in fwd but thats what he said)

I know about dsm's you dont need to tell me. But I dont think a 13 year old car with basically a boost controller and exhaust would run 13's just like that especially not a fwd dsm.

I know about dsm's you dont need to tell me. But I dont think a 13 year old car with basically a boost controller and exhaust would run 13's just like that especially not a fwd dsm.

Kick back bro Im not trying to insult you. But yeah some lasers are awd some are fwd. The laser's weigh in close to 2800lbs full weight. With minor weight reduction and turning up the boost can easily run 13's with a good driver. Oh and the 14b turbo has gotten some 1gen dsms into the 11's. At worse the laser should be in high 14's which brings it to a close race between the 2 racing in this thread. Again good kill, but more than likely a good driver in the same laser would see past most 14 second mustangs*sorry but its true*

if it's so easily done then why is every modded dsm in the 13's with those mod's? because its not practical!

You and your "highly modded" dsm couldent even walk on a stock old ser sentra? but then again you walk a ws6...

Just some things that come from you sound real fishy to me alot.

Sorry but it's true.

if it's so easily done then why is every modded dsm in the 13's with those mod's? because its not practical!

You and your "highly modded" dsm couldent even walk on a stock old ser sentra? but then again you walk a ws6...

Just some things that come from you sound real fishy to me alot.

Sorry but it's true.

Your not taking 1 think into consideration here bro. Im using the 14b turbo. Carrrnuttt has seen the upgrade at the last car show I was in next to my aunts black evo8 I sold her. When we raced I had the t25 turbo not the 14b I have now. And what im saying is that the 1st gens come with the 14b not the t25(t-too small) HUGE diffrence. So they can easily squeese into the 13's in the 1/4 from a dig. Just check out the dsmtuners.com and check some of the 14b turbo dsms into the 13's 12's and 11's. Some in which only have a boost controller hitting 13.8's. Yes not everyone can do it. But with a desent driver a laser can do at least mid 14's with the mods the stanggt guy posted.

I hate to say it, but SpyderEclipseGst is right. A first gen gsx with a boost controller can easily hit high 13s. The second gens are far slower because mitsu switched from the 14b turbo to a t25. The t25 is too small, and the BoV on the 2gs can only handle 15 lbs of boost before it starts leaking badly. You can hit 13s with just a boost controller on a 2g, but you will seriously compromise reliability. Your turbo will last for about 5 thousand miles before giving out.

FWD, on the other hand, cannot hit 13s with only a boost controller. To add to that, SpyderEclipseGst's car is a convertable, so it weighs more than a normal one does. I have no reason to doubt SpyderEclipseGst's stories.

14-15 second sentra - he loses

13 second ws6 trans am - he win's

hmm...

as he said, we was still using his stock turbo when he raced carnut. A better turbo's probably good for at least .5 or not a second. Not to mention Carnut's a good driver and we really don't know how good the guy in the ws6 was. It's quite possible.

14-15 second sentra - he loses

13 second ws6 trans am - he win's

hmm...



Ok now that I know Im talking to someone with the reading comprehension skills of a 1st grader reading green eggs and ham. Listen up here mr VTEC..OH SHIT THATS FAST. I have a upgraded turbo in my car(a 14b mitsubishi turbo). Its NOT the same turbo I raced carrrnuttt with. Im pretty sure you can figure this out by now if you took the dick out of your mouth and started to actually read what im saying. If I was to race carrrnuttt again with this turbo im sure its gunna be a TOTAL diffrent outcome. Not dissing his car at all( were friends). But thats about how much faster my car is with the 14b turbo with 110 OCTANE(also known as RACE GAS) at 20 psi. Which is what I raced the ws6 with. Now im saying the ws6 was probabbly just as fast as grandma pushing a stoller(or in another case, just as fast as your honda) but thats what we were laughing at and questioning. Please read the post again with something slightly more intellegent than of something CHUNKS from the goonies would say.

Who's Mr. VTEC? I sure don't have vtec, are you talking to me?

I didn't know you can't have something in your mouth and read at the same time? Good one smart guy.

Fast as my Honda? What does your eclipse run? Stop saying my car is capable and this dsm is capable of this. shut the fuck up and go run your car asshole then you might get some respect and actually have something to brag about.

Too bad your in another state or I would shut you up with a beating from my "Honda".

Before you go insult someone's intelligence why don't you learn how to spell it.

Who's Mr. VTEC? I sure don't have vtec, are you talking to me?

I didn't know you can't have something in your mouth and read at the same time? Good one smart guy.

Fast as my Honda? What does your eclipse run? Stop saying my car is capable and this dsm is capable of this. shut the fuck up and go run your car asshole then you might get some respect and actually have something to brag about.

Too bad your in another state or I would shut you up with a beating from my "Honda".

Before you go insult someone's intelligence why don't you learn how to spell it.

Youll beat me how? Yelling out VTEC when you race looking at tail lights gets you nowhere. You run a 14 sec 1/4 mile on the bottle and ive beaten 13/14 sec cars with an untuned heavy ass dsm. Do I need your respect to feel like I have something to brag about? no. Did I even need to post about how I beat a ws6 with 5 people in my car to try and prove over the internet that I have a fast car? no. It was simply the entertainment from it I wanted to share. I can care less if my car is a track monster or if I have a 19 second turbo car. I need gratitude from no one. But I do need to point out facts when there overlooked(the laser is an easy high 13 second car with bolt ons and a decent driver. Thats what im trying to implement. But you honda boys never cease to amaze me. Slap on a VTEC sticker and OH SHIT THATS FAST..!

a fwd dsm is not hitting 13s with that shit. shut the fuck up.

I ran a 14.3 the 1st time I have ever sprayed. Who get's in a car with more power than they usually have had in the past and is comfortable with it? I sure wasen't. On top of that I had a broken motor mount and the bottle warmer wasent working correctly. My car is an easy 13 second car.

Hell in 2 minutes I could up the jet's to a 75 shot and im sure you would really beat me then too.

A fwd laser that is 13 year's old with i/e and a boost controller is a 13 sec car? I would really love to see it. Im talking real world here buddy your talking about a mint condition awd laser with skip barber driving.

Where are you getting this vtec bullshit? I have a LS 1.8L NON-VTEC and I have said nothing about honda's being fast until you brought my car up.

So your little dsm fan boy ass, can shut the hell up. :)

wow I sense alittle heat from this conversation :eek: ......just to get of topic alittle what does your car hit in the 1320 spydereclipsegst or if you havent timed it yet what do you think you hit..

a fwd dsm is not hitting 13s with that shit. shut the fuck up.


But other dsms can hit mid 11 second 1/4 mile timeslips with the 14b?

DSMTIMES.COM look at the fwd cars. See all the 12 and 11 second time slips? now again those are pretty tuned cars. A laser with the 14/boost controller/intake/exhaust is pushing somewhat between 230-250 hp depending on what boost and gas is run, and much lighter than the mustang that was raced. So put it all together a lighter car, more hp gets beat by a heaver car with less horsepower. Tell me something dont sound right.

I ran a 14.3 the 1st time I have ever sprayed. Who get's in a car with more power than they usually have had in the past and is comfortable with it? I sure wasen't. On top of that I had a broken motor mount and the bottle warmer wasent working correctly. My car is an easy 13 second car.

Hell in 2 minutes I could up the jet's to a 75 shot and im sure you would really beat me then too.

A fwd laser that is 13 year's old with i/e and a boost controller is a 13 sec car? I would really love to see it. Im talking real world here buddy your talking about a mint condition awd laser with skip barber driving.

Where are you getting this vtec bullshit? I have a LS 1.8L NON-VTEC and I have said nothing about honda's being fast until you brought my car up.

So your little dsm fan boy ass, can shut the hell up. :)

Who cares about your car or what you think you can run. Your an internet racer, so say anything you want about what you can do or what you think you can do. Its all bullshit because unless youve got a good 5k to spend your car isnt gunna get any faster than it is now without destroying something. And the 13 year old laser is only as good as it is taken care of. My turbo came used off a 92 gsx in mint condition. So the car in question is a major factor yes. But givin it still drives good, boosts good, and has no boost leaks. That laser has more hp than the mustang, is lighter and should be easily taking a mid 14 second mustang. Ive seen it and witnessed a near stock 1g dsm walking gt mustangs mildly modded by football fields. Now you say it the other way around. A near stock mustang beating a 14b turbo boosted with intake and full exhaust 1g dsm. Shit throw that up in the dsm forums and see how fast you get a BS flag. That shit just dont happen my friend. For shits and giggles ill throw up afew vids for ya. Brb

Don't waste your time I have 56k.

Internet racer? lol I have over 60 timeslips since the track opened this season. where's your timeslips?

How am I an internet racer when you talk lot's of shit with no timeslips? hmmmm! you must be the smartest guy on this forum.

Spyder your arguing with anouther Nitrous civic. That should turn you off from posting right now. Anyway you shouldnt argue, he might meet you to race and it will turn out he has 50 stickers + eurolights, which should add about 150 hp to the wheels. Id be scared.

Higrev, ide advise you to shut the fuck up since you know nothing about my car or who I am. it's funny how people are so ignorant to talk shit about someone they dont know.

sypder
1. theres 25 people out of 127 with the 14b who run 14.000 or faster. thats a great ratio there isnt it.
2. A 13 year old fwd laser with usual wear and tear and miles with intake a boost controller and exhuast will not run 13's period.
3. goto the track get some times post them up. until then shut the fuck up. :)

Im sorry for my comment i didnt realize what a hard core racer you are. From what i see you striped your trunk, and added Nitrous. I will be shocked if that custom work wasnt dont by vin diesel himself. Remember you drive a civic. And although i dont hate civics or civic owners, I hate the ones that think they are fast. If you are serious about racing here is a tip: throw out your car. Also since you like ratios, check the number of people who drive civics, to the number that actually thinks they are fast. You might learn something.

For one I have a crx.

I dont have any use for the interior panels being in the back of my crx so I took them out.

I have a swap, intake, thermal cat back and suspension mods and nitrous. it was all done for 2250$

13 seconds? pretty quick for alittle honda. you can say what you want about my time it was done on shitty tires, with a broken motor mount and an incorrectly working bottle warmer. my car will run 13's as is.

Im no ricer any respectable member here knows that and will agree with me. so you sir can kiss my nuts and shut your mouth.

Oh man, I love this forum ;D

if it's so easily done then why is every modded dsm in the 13's with those mod's? because its not practical!

You and your "highly modded" dsm couldent even walk on a stock old ser sentra? but then again you walk a ws6...

Just some things that come from you sound real fishy to me alot.

Sorry but it's true.

hehehe, your crazy

b/c do alot.

Im sorry for my comment i didnt realize what a hard core racer you are. From what i see you striped your trunk, and added Nitrous. I will be shocked if that custom work wasnt dont by vin diesel himself. Remember you drive a civic. And although i dont hate civics or civic owners, I hate the ones that think they are fast. If you are serious about racing here is a tip: throw out your car. Also since you like ratios, check the number of people who drive civics, to the number that actually thinks they are fast. You might learn something.

shut up!!

First of all you are a ricer. You have a fully stripped car and run 14 at best on nitrous. Around here we can that stupid shit. I have full leather interior etc. I can at least feel good about taking my gfriend out on a good night and not get laughed at by everyone elce. Your car weighs 2000 some odd lbs. You have a shot of nos and only run 14's. Your cranking a good 180 some odd hp on NOS my fellow ricer. Here check out another spyder that has LESS mods than I do taking out a stock sti and a modded evo from a roll. Hes pushing 250 hp on his spyder. His name is jim ross and he has an everyday 14b powerd dsm. http://www.fargostreet.com/temp/video/06-16-04.wmv
His car is heavyer than that laser and has a boost controller exhaust and intake. So if a heaver spyder can take a stock sti 300 hp from a roll, what you you think the lighter 1g fwd laser can do to a mid 14 sec car? Yep must be those long nights ripping out your seats instead of ripping a turbo apart and engine and actually doing a mod on your car that actually ADDS hp.

My car is NOT a track car by any means. I dont claim to have the fastest car around nor do I wish to be. My car is fairly quick and I know most 14 second cars I can beat from a roll. I have beaten quite afew cars on the freeway example 2004 srt4's mostly stock, a ws6 , 350z's, wrx's, my black evo8 I sold to my aunt who won the last import vs domestic car show(carrrnuttt is my PROFF)etc etc. My car is always taken car of and I know almost everything about my car(even what type of cup holders I have). You probabbly dont have any because your doing stage 10 weight reduction to run a 14 sec 1/4 mile time. Just for you, every time a honda ricer asks me what I have done. Im saying its VTEC ...Shit im fast..!

spidereclipsegst: a ricer is one who is all show no go and or is ignorant of speed. as far as i know civichbsi is niether of those.

civichbsi: its possible for a 1st gen dsm with b/c intake and exhaust to get high 13's, boost controllers are amazing. if someone goes from 8psi to 15psi he just gained serious hp.

spidereclipsegst, whats the stock psi on a 1st gen dsm? 8-9psi?

btw i have a sticker on my car at the bottom that says "southbend clutch" am i a ricer too?

with the usual wear and tear? and not race gas?

1 my car doesent come with a back seat 2 it doesent come with cup holders. my car will run 13's as is, what does your car run? oh wait your scared to run it because you cant drive your car and your scared your gonna come up with a 15sec time slip with all your mods that you have done.

the only internet racer here is you. stop crying and shut your mouth

with the usual wear and tear? and not race gas?

yeah. depending on the turbo, you can get 10hp for every 1 psi you go up. this is what i've been told by more than one person. turbo charged cars respond so good to mods its crazy. i only went from 9psi to 12psi and its a night and day difference.

fuck im done here im not arguing this shit.

fuck im done here im not arguing this shit.
*claps*
By the way, id expect someone like you to be that desperate. For those who dont know what i mean, check his post in Ford Vs. honda thread.

It's a joke.

Grow up.

Someone ban him he's done nothing but try to cause trouble.

whats wrong with you? whats your beef with civicHBsi91?

its seemed as if you just jumped in the arguement down talking him for no reason.

no need for all that. he's coo

[QUOTE=civicHBsi91]It's a joke.[QUOTE]
Actually i can say the same, i realized it was a joke, and wanted to see if i could pull u back to this post :P

whats wrong with you? whats your beef with civicHBsi91?
its seemed as if you just jumped in the arguement down talking him for no reason.
no need for all that. he's coo
Actually i just kinda took my frustration out because, w/o knowledge he appeared to be anouther ricer who was knocking other cars. DSMs are nice. I guess i misjudged. But hey, in forums, it's all in good funs.

with the usual wear and tear? and not race gas?


Yes, it has been done many times.

whats wrong with you? whats your beef with civicHBsi91?

its seemed as if you just jumped in the arguement down talking him for no reason.

no need for all that. he's coo

Id hate to say it vr but he IS A JOKE. He knows nothing about the laser that was in question. So I have to sit riceboy back down and explain the details to him. I expect at least a decent productive conversation. His car is barely a sight for eyes and for making it a tin can with an engine it runs 14's.??? Tell me thats worth it. Oh but I have to have a timeslip to say how fast I am. CARRRNUTTT is my proff. He wont lie to his local forum members just to give me a good rep. I dont talk up my ass to get the local internet riceboy on my side. PM him and ask him if my ride is legit. Shit I SOLD MY EVO8 to my aunt because my car is faster and better looking as it is. I pull her evo from 2nd gear to 4th gear by 3 cars. Did you even look at the video? Did you see the 14b in action. Now get back to the question at hand. That laser has more HP than the mustang and its LIGHTER. Now whos the one making up a story? My race with the ws6 again was with 110 octane(race gas) and 20 psi NO KNOCK WHATSOEVER can do wonders. But I know I coulda beat the ws6 with pump gas it was so slow. But we really dont know if it was really a ws6 only by how slow it was. For sure it should have put up a fight. The story was funny so thats why I even posted it. Get back to the thread and answer the questions. Do you think a mid 14 sec mustang can beat a POTENTUALLY 13 second car thats LIGHTER? Im trying to be nice here. I wont even mention why you paid for a ls non vtec motor swap and a shot of nitrous to become the tin can racer. Oh sorry, please answer the questions..LOL

spidereclipsegst: a ricer is one who is all show no go and or is ignorant of speed. as far as i know civichbsi is niether of those.

civichbsi: its possible for a 1st gen dsm with b/c intake and exhaust to get high 13's, boost controllers are amazing. if someone goes from 8psi to 16psi he just gained serious hp.

spidereclipsegst, whats the stock psi on a 1st gen dsm? 8-9psi?

btw i have a sticker on my car at the bottom that says "southbend clutch" am i a ricer too?

Yes the 1st gens come running lowsy boost stock 8-10 psi. With the car boosted to 16 psi. NO FUEL MODS NEEDED, its gunna be pulling alot harder than at stock psi. Then you take he has a exhaust that frees up all that air flow and intake. Your sticker of southbend clutch is probabbly on there for a reason no? You got your tranny fixed for a discount or maybe free? The 450 hp awd spyder in my area has an HKS sticker on his windshield. That dont make him a ricer. He was sponcred.

Yes the 1st gens come running lowsy boost stock 8-10 psi. 10.5 on M/T cars. With the car boosted to 16 psi. NO FUEL MODS NEEDED,I disagree. A pump rewire is needed to do this safely.
The 450 awd spyder in my area has an HKS sticker on his windshield. Southern Cali?

10.5 on M/T cars.I disagree. A pump rewire is needed to do this safely.
Southern Cali?

No hes in Chandler arizona. Hes on the dsmtuners.com His name there is Mlopez. He owns the white gst(converted to gsx) on steroids. Shoulda seen last weekend when he ran a 15 psi supercharged mustang gt. That mustang rolled up on all of our dsms cruising 14 dsms deep. 7 of which had a 20g or bigger turbo. Marios spyder took him tho. It was hilarious watching the mustang go WOT then the spyder take off like an f16 fighter jet flying past a 350 some odd supercharged mustang. You just dont rev on a pack of DSM's you know what I mean.

I know who you are talking about. :)

I get what civichbsi91 is tyring to say........you cant base times off of one good car.......every car has its own potentials........as far a the laser hitting 13s with those modds its possible.....but he does have a point its a 13yr old car and they be in any condition dispite who takes care of it.....as for talking shit on his car isnt nessesary personally I think for the underdogg his civic is pretty quick allmotor w/o nitrous 14.7 in my book is pretty quick for an LS swap with minor bolt ons.........as for running stis and evos from a roll doesnt really prove much either dont get me wrong your car sounds quick and all from the modds you listed but lets be realistic your racing AWD cars from a roll which you have the upper hand due too your FWD car.....and last but not least beating the srt on a roll.....hmmmmmmm....I dont know those things got madd top dude..............maybe he wasnt racing...j/k

srt-4s aint god mad nothin. they work the same way any 13 sec car works, if not worse, cause i don't beleive there top speed is 160mph

sorry i'm just anti srt-4 right now

why?????....what did they do to you......lol

[QUOTE=youngvr4] i don't beleive there top speed is 160mph

http://www.we-todd-did-racing.com/wetoddimage.wtdr/wMzg4OTkzNnM0MTNkZmQzMXk1NDE%3D

I had a very hard time seeing the speedo during that vid. I could how ever see that he was moving along at a nice clip

who's to say if he was stock or not, and i couldn't see the speedo either.

srt-4 drivers seem to be ricers in there dream car around here. there all just ignorant it seems. they think they can beat anything on the street. it just seems to be the ricer car ya know. atleast around here it seems like that

I get what your saying its only due to the low price the car is and mommy and daddy will buy it for their precious ricer son....and when the son hasnt felt that kind of power before he thinks he could beat the world yet he still knows nothing about racing in general.......yeah I seen that story too many times.....100% pure ricer....as for the srt being stock thats what the thread said so suck it up.....j/k lol

lol

Now your making yourself look like a total asshole. you get on me for supposedly now knowing about Dsm's but then you go and run your mouth about Honda's and why I would even pay for one. You show me no knowledge of anything beside's being a Dsm fanboy and reading shit up on dsmtimes.org that you wish your car could run.

I paid 2,250 including the car and all it's mod's. It WILL run high 13's AS IS with more seat time at the track. I ran it once at the track spraying anyone who run's their car the 1st time will not get their best time because simply "practice makes perfect". Now in two minutes I could up the jet's to a 75 shot and run who know's what I would run but it would be with the same mod's I have now and it would be safe. Now what have you paid for YOUR car and all of it's mod's?? I want to hear about your car not "this guy's" car or "that guy's" car or "I could do this" no how much did you pay for your car and your mod's.

I don't care that you had an evo or carrrnutt is your proof. he's not here backing you up probably because your acting like an asshole and you act like all dsm's are unstopable or can't be beat. Which is a very ignorant statement.

Im not on the laser vs mustang subject anymore so move on from that.

Again the argument's your making are just making you look stupid. Your talking about weight alot, well do you think my car is heavy? Honda's dont generally need alot of power there bud. There's honda's that run 12's with 150whp and grip.

My car is a 13 second car for 2250$. I was a highschool student I had a part time job and I worked my ass off for both car's ive owned. No my car isnt the fastest car around but it sure as hell aint bad for a kid that was 17 still in highschool and paid for it by himself.

Now before you come back saying "listen here riceboy" I would suggest you open your mind alittle bit and actually think before your dsm instinct to down everyone with something different comes into play. Im not stupid im not a riceboy. think before you reply. thank you have a nice day.

*sniffs*

I like your car, civicHB