Indianapolis 2002 Ralf and Juan
builder77
07-13-2004, 06:43 AM
The figure is an older Tamiya figure with MSM Creation decals. They turned out great!!
I tried something different for the seat belts. Blue ribbon was used then the kit supplied belts were carefully cut out and sanded down and glued to the ribbon.
We will see how it turns out. This is just a test fit.
The body will be glued together with the seat in place...after painting is complete the figure will be put into place.
Juan figure is in the works.
http://www.racedaymodels.com/images/FW23/1.jpg
http://www.racedaymodels.com/images/FW23/ralph/1.jpg
http://www.racedaymodels.com/images/FW23/ralph/2.jpg
http://www.racedaymodels.com/images/FW23/ralph/3.jpg
http://www.racedaymodels.com/images/FW23/ralph/4.jpg
http://www.racedaymodels.com/images/FW23/ralph/5.jpg
http://www.racedaymodels.com/images/FW23/ralph/6.jpg
I tried something different for the seat belts. Blue ribbon was used then the kit supplied belts were carefully cut out and sanded down and glued to the ribbon.
We will see how it turns out. This is just a test fit.
The body will be glued together with the seat in place...after painting is complete the figure will be put into place.
Juan figure is in the works.
http://www.racedaymodels.com/images/FW23/1.jpg
http://www.racedaymodels.com/images/FW23/ralph/1.jpg
http://www.racedaymodels.com/images/FW23/ralph/2.jpg
http://www.racedaymodels.com/images/FW23/ralph/3.jpg
http://www.racedaymodels.com/images/FW23/ralph/4.jpg
http://www.racedaymodels.com/images/FW23/ralph/5.jpg
http://www.racedaymodels.com/images/FW23/ralph/6.jpg
MPWR
07-13-2004, 07:29 AM
NICE!!!
That's awesome! I had no idea that driver decals were availible (I NEED some now!). Cool idea- I wouldn't have thought to immortalize this, uh, dubiuos moment in recent Williams history, but it'll make a terrific diorama! (I guess the other moment that comes to mind with the FW24 is Ralf flying over the first corner at Melborne!) I like what you've done with Ralf- the pose captures motion (and frustration!) very well.
That's awesome! I had no idea that driver decals were availible (I NEED some now!). Cool idea- I wouldn't have thought to immortalize this, uh, dubiuos moment in recent Williams history, but it'll make a terrific diorama! (I guess the other moment that comes to mind with the FW24 is Ralf flying over the first corner at Melborne!) I like what you've done with Ralf- the pose captures motion (and frustration!) very well.
sjelic
07-13-2004, 07:31 AM
Are you going to make the crash? like diorama, if so this will be great, are those el oso figures or something else?
builder77
07-13-2004, 07:57 AM
Thanks!
Yes, it is going to be a diorama.
The Ralf figure is a Tamiya.
The Montoya is a Treasure Hunt figure.
More progress pictures to come.
Chris
Yes, it is going to be a diorama.
The Ralf figure is a Tamiya.
The Montoya is a Treasure Hunt figure.
More progress pictures to come.
Chris
builder77
07-13-2004, 08:02 AM
Here is the Hungary 2002 Diorama I did.
I'll take better pictures tonight.
The frame has been covered in carbon fiber "decals" and looks much better.
http://www.racedaymodels.com/old/pages/kimi/Kimi%20and%20Juan4.jpg
http://www.racedaymodels.com/old/pages/kimi/Kimi%20and%20Juan3.JPG
http://www.racedaymodels.com/old/pages/Juan1.jpg
The same "Shadowbox" idea will be used on this diorama as well.
It doesnt take any shelf space since I can hang it on the wall like a picture!
Chris
I'll take better pictures tonight.
The frame has been covered in carbon fiber "decals" and looks much better.
http://www.racedaymodels.com/old/pages/kimi/Kimi%20and%20Juan4.jpg
http://www.racedaymodels.com/old/pages/kimi/Kimi%20and%20Juan3.JPG
http://www.racedaymodels.com/old/pages/Juan1.jpg
The same "Shadowbox" idea will be used on this diorama as well.
It doesnt take any shelf space since I can hang it on the wall like a picture!
Chris
sjelic
07-13-2004, 08:45 AM
Nice speed effect, you make it look real. Very good job.
Alien
07-13-2004, 09:42 AM
Thats really cool, my girlfriend also wants something to put on the wall(or was she talking about a painting :lol:)looking forward to the result of your new diorama :)
exhaust smoke
07-13-2004, 10:18 AM
Some of the best F1 dioramma's I've seen. Fantastic!
Can't wait to see the finished Williams dioramma.
Can't wait to see the finished Williams dioramma.
StephenDeli
07-13-2004, 10:40 AM
Diorama of two Williams colliding... I LOVE IT!!!!
builder77
07-13-2004, 03:22 PM
Thanks for the kind words.
Here are some better pictures of the Kimi and Juan diorama.
http://www.racedaymodels.com/images/hungary/1.jpg
http://www.racedaymodels.com/images/hungary/2.jpg
http://www.racedaymodels.com/images/hungary/3.jpg
http://www.racedaymodels.com/images/hungary/4.jpg
http://www.racedaymodels.com/images/hungary/5.jpg
http://www.racedaymodels.com/images/hungary/6.jpg
Chris
Here are some better pictures of the Kimi and Juan diorama.
http://www.racedaymodels.com/images/hungary/1.jpg
http://www.racedaymodels.com/images/hungary/2.jpg
http://www.racedaymodels.com/images/hungary/3.jpg
http://www.racedaymodels.com/images/hungary/4.jpg
http://www.racedaymodels.com/images/hungary/5.jpg
http://www.racedaymodels.com/images/hungary/6.jpg
Chris
StephenDeli
07-13-2004, 04:05 PM
Looks good!
DJ_Merle
07-13-2004, 06:30 PM
THAS AWSOME!!!!! I love how the figures hands are positioned as if they were making the turn like in ur pic(Im guessing thas what ur doing)
RallyRaider
07-13-2004, 10:23 PM
Good luck with the diorama, however why you'd want to commemorate that moment is beyond me :p
The Kimi and JPM diorama looks fabulous, what scale is it?
The Kimi and JPM diorama looks fabulous, what scale is it?
PRIVATEER
07-14-2004, 12:00 AM
WOW!!!!!! I love to see things different like that. Fantastic!!!!!!!!!!!!!
robrex
07-14-2004, 03:50 AM
Very very COOL !!!!
Cychalen
07-14-2004, 05:09 AM
WOW! The speed effect is amazing. :eek:
builder77
07-14-2004, 05:53 AM
They are all 1/20 scale. The Williams is the Tamiya Kit and the Mclaren is the Studio 27 MP4-17.
Thanks
Chris
Thanks
Chris
builder77
07-15-2004, 10:02 PM
Juan figure turned out great. Helmet was painted with Tamiya Gloss Black before a coat of Aclad Chrome. The following pictures are the test fit of the Juan figure. The hardest part here was that Juan sits lower than Ralf in the car. The Juan figure required sanding and cutting the seat to get him in the right position.
http://www.racedaymodels.com/images/FW23/juan/1.JPG
http://www.racedaymodels.com/images/FW23/juan/2.JPG
http://www.racedaymodels.com/images/FW23/juan/3.JPG
http://www.racedaymodels.com/images/FW23/juan/4.JPG
http://www.racedaymodels.com/images/FW23/juan/5.JPG
http://www.racedaymodels.com/images/FW23/juan/6.JPG
http://www.racedaymodels.com/images/FW23/juan/7.JPG
Chris
http://www.racedaymodels.com/images/FW23/juan/1.JPG
http://www.racedaymodels.com/images/FW23/juan/2.JPG
http://www.racedaymodels.com/images/FW23/juan/3.JPG
http://www.racedaymodels.com/images/FW23/juan/4.JPG
http://www.racedaymodels.com/images/FW23/juan/5.JPG
http://www.racedaymodels.com/images/FW23/juan/6.JPG
http://www.racedaymodels.com/images/FW23/juan/7.JPG
Chris
TvD
07-16-2004, 01:00 AM
Hi Chris,
Great models and stunning diorama!
I have one question; how was the fit of the MSM creation decals for Montoya's helmet? I want to use them on an El Oso figure and "copied" the decals on some tamiya-tape to test fit them. I just think they will require a lot of microsol. What's your opinion on this? Did you have to use microsol a lot??? thanks!
BTW some work-in-progress pictures of my FW24 can be found here: www.xs4all.nl/~dooremti/fw24.html (http://www.xs4all.nl/~dooremti/fw24.html) Will be posting some of them here later.
Tim
Great models and stunning diorama!
I have one question; how was the fit of the MSM creation decals for Montoya's helmet? I want to use them on an El Oso figure and "copied" the decals on some tamiya-tape to test fit them. I just think they will require a lot of microsol. What's your opinion on this? Did you have to use microsol a lot??? thanks!
BTW some work-in-progress pictures of my FW24 can be found here: www.xs4all.nl/~dooremti/fw24.html (http://www.xs4all.nl/~dooremti/fw24.html) Will be posting some of them here later.
Tim
builder77
07-16-2004, 06:20 AM
First of all thanks for words of encouragement and great looking build on your site!
The decals took a ton of microsol!! I put the microsol on and then place the piece into a food dehydrator for about 5 minutes and this helps soften the decal and make it easy to work with. That proved to be very helpful for both helmets in this project. The decal really does not fit the helmets that I chose. The Juan Helmet is an El Oso helmet that was reworked some. My suggestion to you is cut the decal in half (on the backside of the helmet). I had to do this after the entire decal was wet and took a lot longer. There is a ton of overlap when you do this so it's a challenge to get the decals lined up properly but its better than working with it all at once.
Good luck on this and make sure to post some progress!!
Chris
The decals took a ton of microsol!! I put the microsol on and then place the piece into a food dehydrator for about 5 minutes and this helps soften the decal and make it easy to work with. That proved to be very helpful for both helmets in this project. The decal really does not fit the helmets that I chose. The Juan Helmet is an El Oso helmet that was reworked some. My suggestion to you is cut the decal in half (on the backside of the helmet). I had to do this after the entire decal was wet and took a lot longer. There is a ton of overlap when you do this so it's a challenge to get the decals lined up properly but its better than working with it all at once.
Good luck on this and make sure to post some progress!!
Chris
Guido
07-16-2004, 03:39 PM
Can I make some suggestions here? ;)
1. In the closeup pics, I see that the seatbelts are attached to the drivers backs. Probably you did this coz it's a bit more convenient but why not try to attach them where they are attached on the real car. Or are the seat belts the onces that are on the driver figure and you just painted them. In that case very convincing paint job, but then you'd have to find a solution to extend the belts up to the seats. Tamiya has those 2 areas covered in their seats. It's maybe a fiddling, but very much worth the effort I think. Any chance to rectify?
2. A general comment on diorama's - like I keep on saying ;). You're trying to present an situation that happened, and as accurate as possible, right? With the Kimi-JPM dio you did just that, and although very well executed, it looks a bit cramped. What I mean is, the viewer will have a hard time trying to imagine what was going on. Cars should be part of the diorama, not the main focus. It's the story that is important. So if I would have done the Kimi-JPM dio, i'd probably added a couple of more centimeters (inches?) a about every side. To give a bit more air to breath, you know. Often you see very nice diorama's with very well build models, but because it's concept was a bit too small, it's does not complete justice to nor the models, nor the story that you're willing to show. If you think, that's big enough, add a couple of more inches/centimers and then it will just be perfet. ;)
Keep up the good work!! I love it. Whish I had more time to do diorama's.
1. In the closeup pics, I see that the seatbelts are attached to the drivers backs. Probably you did this coz it's a bit more convenient but why not try to attach them where they are attached on the real car. Or are the seat belts the onces that are on the driver figure and you just painted them. In that case very convincing paint job, but then you'd have to find a solution to extend the belts up to the seats. Tamiya has those 2 areas covered in their seats. It's maybe a fiddling, but very much worth the effort I think. Any chance to rectify?
2. A general comment on diorama's - like I keep on saying ;). You're trying to present an situation that happened, and as accurate as possible, right? With the Kimi-JPM dio you did just that, and although very well executed, it looks a bit cramped. What I mean is, the viewer will have a hard time trying to imagine what was going on. Cars should be part of the diorama, not the main focus. It's the story that is important. So if I would have done the Kimi-JPM dio, i'd probably added a couple of more centimeters (inches?) a about every side. To give a bit more air to breath, you know. Often you see very nice diorama's with very well build models, but because it's concept was a bit too small, it's does not complete justice to nor the models, nor the story that you're willing to show. If you think, that's big enough, add a couple of more inches/centimers and then it will just be perfet. ;)
Keep up the good work!! I love it. Whish I had more time to do diorama's.
builder77
07-18-2004, 01:33 PM
Update:
Cars painted and decals are ready to be put on.
http://www.racedaymodels.com/images/FW23/mask1.JPG
http://www.racedaymodels.com/images/FW23/mask2.JPG
http://www.racedaymodels.com/images/FW23/repaint.JPG
http://www.racedaymodels.com/images/FW23/test1.JPG
http://www.racedaymodels.com/images/FW23/test2.JPG
Cars painted and decals are ready to be put on.
http://www.racedaymodels.com/images/FW23/mask1.JPG
http://www.racedaymodels.com/images/FW23/mask2.JPG
http://www.racedaymodels.com/images/FW23/repaint.JPG
http://www.racedaymodels.com/images/FW23/test1.JPG
http://www.racedaymodels.com/images/FW23/test2.JPG
Vric
07-18-2004, 02:29 PM
they look great
RallyRaider
07-18-2004, 05:47 PM
Juan's right arm looks a bit skinny in places :lol:
I just noticed you added the small, roll hoop wing on 2002 Hungarian diorama Williams, excellent attention to detail :thumbsup:
I just noticed you added the small, roll hoop wing on 2002 Hungarian diorama Williams, excellent attention to detail :thumbsup:
builder77
07-18-2004, 09:12 PM
Thanks..Yea his arm was too thin so I didn’t use it.
The wing was made from brass.
Huudo...Thanks for the feedback. I have extended the seat belts like you suggested, thanks for the recommendation.
Also, thanks for the suggestion on the size issue.
My only problem is limited space to display as well as the limitation of the canvas in this case the shadowbox frame. Due to these limitations I try and choose projects compact enough to fit in these limitations. I do see your point though and will consider it in the next project choice!
Thanks
Chris
The wing was made from brass.
Huudo...Thanks for the feedback. I have extended the seat belts like you suggested, thanks for the recommendation.
Also, thanks for the suggestion on the size issue.
My only problem is limited space to display as well as the limitation of the canvas in this case the shadowbox frame. Due to these limitations I try and choose projects compact enough to fit in these limitations. I do see your point though and will consider it in the next project choice!
Thanks
Chris
kt100
07-20-2004, 10:56 PM
looks great
JTRACING
07-21-2004, 02:01 PM
Very Impressive work!!! cant wait to see the finished product!
Gainsbourg
07-23-2004, 11:00 AM
Good luck with this awesome project.
Nice start and I can’t wait to see some new progress pics of this project.
The Montoya/Kimi diorama is super! In some photos the cars look like they’re actually running at high speed. Brilliant.
Nice start and I can’t wait to see some new progress pics of this project.
The Montoya/Kimi diorama is super! In some photos the cars look like they’re actually running at high speed. Brilliant.
nismo man
07-24-2004, 07:06 PM
oh snap that kimi and montaya diorama is freaking tight that's the mp4/17
right,anyway good progress on the fw24s.
right,anyway good progress on the fw24s.
builder77
07-26-2004, 08:59 PM
Yes that is the mp4/17.
It is the Studio 27 kit.
It is the Studio 27 kit.
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