Front camber? How? When?

When I lower my car, at what point will I need to get something for camber? Ive seen the link where you can do the 45mm bolts and washers for the back end to fix camber in the back ~ but what about the front? Can you do the same trick? Does wheelsize matter for this part, like would a 15" rim act differantly to the suspension with a 1" drop compared to say an 18" with a 1" drop?

just putting on bigger wheels will cause your alignment to get thrown off...as far as camber is concerned the lower you go the more negative your camber will become and you will need a kit. it installs onto the back of the upper control arms which will push your upper control arm out and then the fun begins....your upper control arm will hit the inner wheel wheel most likely with a nice ka-thunk...youll need to get an alignment first then cut and hammer the first layer of firewall wherever it is hitting. it will be easiest if you just remove the wheel and spring/shock combo to give you room to work i suggest you get a camber correction kit with up to +3 degrees of correction just in case you want to go lower. but if youre only going with a 1" drop forget about everything you just read.



p.s ill be ordering soon!

It won't make any real difference what size rims you run, so long as the tire/wheel package ends up at right about the same overall height as stock (use the plus size system or ask about that here). Alignment specs do not change if the overall package height is the same, despite what some say.

Generally, you'll need aftermarket camber adjustment right around 1.5"+ lowering, which is also about the point where performance starts to degrade with additional lowering. What are you goals for the new suspension setup?

As long as you rotate your tires and not dropped below 1.5-1.8" you shouldn't need a camber kit. I had my tires on my car for 30K miles and they looked perfectly fine and stood up if you put them on a flat ground. I rotated my tires every 4000 miles and flipped them every 12K miles.

Yeah, well I planned on getting an alignment and all that crap ~ my goals really are not to have a "cone chaser" quality setup, I just want to stiffen up all this body roll in my CX... so if I go with say a set of Neuspeed spring and keep it @ 1.5" drop I should be all set?

Originally posted by texan
Alignment specs do not change if the overall package height is the same, despite what some say.

true but most people do not put on the same exact wheel/tire size and in almost all cases wider tires are put on and yes the car needs to be realigned

rim width again has nothing to do with alignment, and unless the overall tire height is deviating more than say about 5% there's absolutely no reason to even check the alignment. Which means that 99% of the people putting rims on their cars don't need to worry about alignment problems. If they do, it's because they haven't listened to the professionals as to which tire and rim size works on their car.

Originally posted by texan
rim width again has nothing to do with alignment, and unless the overall tire height is deviating more than say about 5% there's absolutely no reason to even check the alignment. Which means that 99% of the people putting rims on their cars don't need to worry about alignment problems. If they do, it's because they haven't listened to the professionals as to which tire and rim size works on their car. Ok so what rim and tire size would I need for my 93 CX smarty pants (looking at 17" in size) Looking for help :)

What is the stock tire and rim size for that car?

Originally posted by texan
What is the stock tire and rim size for that car? I have 175/70/13 on there...

The closest to optimal would be a 205/40 17 IMO, which is a good size street tire and rim package. You'll give up some straight line performance for sure, but the looks and handling feel (speaking mainly of turn-in in regards to tire size) will be 1000% better than stock. I run 215/45 17 Bridgestone S03's on mine, they are excellent tires for the money.