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Two customed to skyline both very fast both very good looking EXCEPT when you have the movie get a hold of them. :disappoin (cough cough 2f2f)
(Signal r34 vs Motorex r34)

Signal r34 Motorex r34
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CC 2800 cc / 2600 cc
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Base r34 + 100,000 / 115,000 (with legalazation)
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hp 700 / 550
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Tq 550 (est) / 440
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0-60 3.5 (est) /3.6
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0-100 7.9 (est) / 8.5
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Qt 11.0 (with street tires) / 11.2 @ 128 mph
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Top speed 200+ / 198 mph
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Signal r34
http://superstreetonline.com/superstreet/featuredvehicles/p121497_image_large.jpg (http://superstreetonline.com/featuredvehicles/55239/#)Motorex R34 aka Blackbirdhttp://www.fast-autos.net/motorex/blackbird5.jpg

I'd take Motorex's 'Big Bird' over either of those. Tyndago can tell you about that car. It's got quite a history, too.

Just found a new sweet pick of the black bird! http://www.libero.co.kr/upload/tmc_psd/%bd%ba%c4%ab%c0%cc%b6%f3%c0%ce_2.jpg

Two customed to skyline both very fast both very good looking EXCEPT when you have the movie get a hold of them. :disappoin (cough cough 2f2f)
(Signal r34 vs Motorex r34)

Signal r34 Motorex r34
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CC 2800 cc / 2600 cc
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Base r34 + 100,000 / 115,000 (with legalazation)
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hp 700 / 550
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Tq 550 (est) / 440
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0-60 3.3 (est) /3.5
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0-100 7.9 (est) / 8.5
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Qt 11.0 (with street tires) / 11.2 @ 128 mph
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Top speed 200+ / 198 mph
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Oooh oooh it's debate time! I like this part. :naughty:

Black bird has about 80hp (claimed) more than I've got yet it is quoted here on its 0-60, and 0-100 times in a car that weights MORE than mine so thay are NOT possible.
The best I've ever been able to mannage is 4.2 seconds 0-60, yet Signal's is "est" at 3.3 with 150hp more hp and lighter than black bird. Humm seems some numbers are a WEEEEEEE bit off. Either way I would take Signal's R34 but since you can't "Legalize" an R34 in the USA right now I'll take my R32 thank you :smokin:

but since you can't "Legalize" an R34 in the USA right now I'll take my R32 thank you :smokin:

And that's why I'd go with 'Big Bird.' Hopefully that one's a pre-'96 R33. :)

Oooh oooh it's debate time! I like this part. :naughty:

Black bird has about 80hp (claimed) more than I've got yet it is quoted here on its 0-60, and 0-100 times in a car that weights MORE than mine so thay are NOT possible. The best I've ever been able to mannage is 4.2 seconds 0-60, yet Signal's is "est" at 3.3 with 150hp more hp and lighter than black bird. Humm seems some numbers are a WEEEEEEE bit off.

Why dont you think the 0-60 is 3.3 150 hp is a substanchal amount for a car. In the movie 2f2f before shooting the bbird ran off 550 on the dyno they said.

All the Blackbird numbers are from a Road and Track article. They are not actual performance tested numbers.

Don't believe everything you read.

It was actually making about 400 whp - ran 0-60 in 3.9 secs , did the quarter in 12.2 @ 113(ish). - I went about 173 mph in it - off the Power FC - about 295 km/hr if you believe the speedo.

Big Bird was lots faster.

Signal...... signal......what they do in Japan - and what they do in the US are two different things.

All the Blackbird numbers are from a Road and Track article. They are not actual performance tested numbers.

Don't believe everything you read.

It was actually making about 400 whp - ran 0-60 in 3.9 secs , did the quarter in 12.2 @ 113(ish). - I went about 173 mph in it - off the Power FC - about 295 km/hr if you believe the speedo.

Big Bird was lots faster.

Signal...... signal......what they do in Japan - and what they do in the US are two different things.

yes but not for long :iceslolan.

Big Bird was lots faster.

Yeah, that's what I was thinking. Didn't it run something like a 10.7 in the 1/4 with 2530s and a 150 shot?

Yeah, that's what I was thinking. Didn't it run something like a 10.7 in the 1/4 with 2530s and a 150 shot?

Big Bird - all stock motor - 2530's and direct port...

Did 7.0 @ 104 mph in the 1/8th - and 10.8@132 in the quarter one pass.

Fastest pass was 10.71 @ 137.75.

And previous to drag racing. It raced at Pikes Peak in 1999 and set the showroom stock record with Rhys Millen driving. It was in Fast and Furious.....

http://rbmotoring.com/gallery/album125

A bit of a history of Big Bird....

http://www.mirageautosports.com/GTR/Bigbird.html

I would take the Black Bird. Too bad it got raped after Leiberman bought it. When he bought it he changed the suspension to Gold Lines, a crappy brand, and then my friend made him look stupid. That was a funny moment.

Big Bird - all stock motor - 2530's and direct port...

Did 7.0 @ 104 mph in the 1/8th - and 10.8@132 in the quarter one pass.

Fastest pass was 10.71 @ 137.75.

And previous to drag racing. It raced at Pikes Peak in 1999 and set the showroom stock record with Rhys Millen driving. It was in Fast and Furious.....

http://rbmotoring.com/gallery/album125

A bit of a history of Big Bird....

http://www.mirageautosports.com/GTR/Bigbird.html

i heard big bird has one hell of a water pump..loud as hell too?

If motorex was still legalizing the r34 could you get a replica of the bbird I heard it was an actual kit.

When he bought it he changed the suspension to Gold Lines, a crappy brand,


Again - dont believe everything you read. The Ohlins coil overs were always on the car..... maybe they changed the springs... but... easier to put a sticker than.

Acually my friend saw it with his own eyes. He changed the springs to Gold Lines.

I read an article about a guy who bought an s15 from blitz and its legal n the US cause its a replica and not the real 1 but the whole car is entirely made from scratch.

Dont always believe articles...... lots of misinformation or misinterpertation.

I read it in turbo magazine. I will find that article.

I don't know about that---but I do know that Brian Havins of Nitrous Express has an imported S15...And the article that featured him and the car (I believe this was APRIL Mod.Mag.)alluded to it's being driven on the highway.....So who knows?

mB

I remember that car now. It orginally came in though Eneki . Chris Ditty had it for a while... Silver / dark silver or something.

Had no motor in it the last time I saw it.

Yes, that is the one. Silver.

mB

So who knows?

...exactly
no idea

I remember seeing the car years ago when I took a GT-R to NOPI.

Eneki is in Texas - Nitrous Express is in Texas. I guess they finally got around to getting a motor in the car.

A question on the s15 why is it such a hpyed car (at least in the states)?? And why is it such a good car for drifting?

Why is it hyped?
Most of the same reason as the Skyline, even though the 240sx was sold here.
Why for drifting?
Rear wheel drive.

Sean--will you be at NOPI NATIONALS this year?
Another question I had for you Sean----why exactly is it that a COMPANY can import a car not on the VCP list, or if it is on the list, without complying it?
I am sure it is a very simple answer, I was just curious....It seems to be a practically accepted truth around here, but I never saw the facts on that.

mB

I would take Black Bird... In my eyes it just looks cleaner and catches my attension more.
-Casey