Olds vs Pontiac same,but different
1Bad89SC
07-05-2004, 11:15 PM
I'm having a problem with my '90 Silhoutte.
The odometer& trip O.D. don't work.
The speedometer is off my about 20 mph.
I don't see a speedometer cable. Are they
electric? Any other info?
The odometer& trip O.D. don't work.
The speedometer is off my about 20 mph.
I don't see a speedometer cable. Are they
electric? Any other info?
LMP
07-06-2004, 01:03 PM
Indeed this is electric. A small "magneto" on the transaxle generates pulses at the rate of 4000 per mile. These pulses , through the ECM, drive a step motor that increases mileage readings and the rate of the pulses generate a square wave whose average voltage is proportional to speed.
THe "book" says (in '90, this is a 3.1 eh?):
- check for open contact at vehicle speed sensor (top of Transaxle)
- defective sensor buffer or defective contact at buffer (behind instrument panel compartment, above convenience center(heater/AC)
- defective speed sensor (less probable)
A CODE 24 should come with the kind of problem you have.
THe "book" says (in '90, this is a 3.1 eh?):
- check for open contact at vehicle speed sensor (top of Transaxle)
- defective sensor buffer or defective contact at buffer (behind instrument panel compartment, above convenience center(heater/AC)
- defective speed sensor (less probable)
A CODE 24 should come with the kind of problem you have.
1Bad89SC
07-06-2004, 07:05 PM
Thanks LMP! I'll check it out.
1Bad89SC
07-15-2004, 12:25 PM
So it would seem that the problem I had with my guages
was with the guages themselves.I ended up buying 2 more sets
from junkyard and still had to use part of the orginal
set to get the guages useful & still lost the rpm guage.
Seems each individual piece such as speedometer and rpm
guage uses a tiny motor to operate.Similiar probs appeared
on the other guage clusters as well. What a pain in the ASS!!
was with the guages themselves.I ended up buying 2 more sets
from junkyard and still had to use part of the orginal
set to get the guages useful & still lost the rpm guage.
Seems each individual piece such as speedometer and rpm
guage uses a tiny motor to operate.Similiar probs appeared
on the other guage clusters as well. What a pain in the ASS!!
LMP
07-16-2004, 08:58 AM
Well indeed GM also said that in last resort, the instrument panel module itself might be the culprit. For several gauges to be in trouble together all at a sudden, there must be a common problem. In similar installations, there use to be a specific power supply - generally delivering 5 volts - for the operation of the instrument panel, but I see no reference to that in the GM book: such a power supply - it can be a simple voltage limiter - is necessary to keep instruments calibrated as the battery and system voltage varies . May be it is an integral part of the I/P module but then, the other ones you have tried should have solved the problem - unless you are very unlucky. I'm puzzled.
1Bad89SC
07-16-2004, 09:43 AM
What source are you reading from?
LMP
07-23-2004, 12:34 PM
1993 Pontiac Transport Service Manual , the very one they use at GM service centers. (bought from GM just as I bought the car).
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