350 to a 700r4
tardster
07-03-2004, 11:56 PM
Ok guys I looked at tranny pans on ebay and matched up the tranny thats in my 88. Its a 700r4. I want to put it in my 82 that has a 350 tranny in it. Someone mentioned a tv cable and I dont know if my 82 has one or not plus most of the computer stuff was removed once the carbed 350 was dropped in her. I have the 700r4 plus the driveshaft, converter, and flywheel. Also someone said I would need to move my crossmember a couple inches. The main thing im worried about now is the tv cable and making sure it works correctlly, also someone said something about a lock-out? Any help is appreciated. Thanks
P.S. I know this is a question asked alot but please be nice....LOL
P.S. I know this is a question asked alot but please be nice....LOL
tardster
07-05-2004, 02:02 AM
Well I didnt mean you could answer me...............LOL
ridge_runner
07-05-2004, 03:11 AM
Ok guys I looked at tranny pans on ebay and matched up the tranny thats in my 88. Its a 700r4. I want to put it in my 82 that has a 350 tranny in it. Someone mentioned a tv cable and I dont know if my 82 has one or not plus most of the computer stuff was removed once the carbed 350 was dropped in her. I have the 700r4 plus the driveshaft, converter, and flywheel. Also someone said I would need to move my crossmember a couple inches. The main thing im worried about now is the tv cable and making sure it works correctlly, also someone said something about a lock-out? Any help is appreciated. Thanks
P.S. I know this is a question asked alot but please be nice....LOL
your 82 should have a kickdown cable with the th350.... it goes right up to the carb linkage..the 700r4 tv cable goes up to the carb linkage also... 68chevelle is good at this stuff....and yes your cross member will need to be moved back a little bit for the 700r4..and yea go to www.bowtieoverdrives.com (http://www.bowtieoverdrives.com) and i think 69chevelle has a few other websites... it tells you on there how to adjust it and its important to adjust it correctly or it could result in tranny damage...does you 700r4 have a stock converter?? if you get an aftermarket stall you need to install a lock up kit.... i never ran one with the stock converter..you to that website for more info
P.S. I know this is a question asked alot but please be nice....LOL
your 82 should have a kickdown cable with the th350.... it goes right up to the carb linkage..the 700r4 tv cable goes up to the carb linkage also... 68chevelle is good at this stuff....and yes your cross member will need to be moved back a little bit for the 700r4..and yea go to www.bowtieoverdrives.com (http://www.bowtieoverdrives.com) and i think 69chevelle has a few other websites... it tells you on there how to adjust it and its important to adjust it correctly or it could result in tranny damage...does you 700r4 have a stock converter?? if you get an aftermarket stall you need to install a lock up kit.... i never ran one with the stock converter..you to that website for more info
ridge_runner
07-05-2004, 03:13 AM
68chevelle
07-05-2004, 01:13 PM
well ridge you pretty much convered most of it. im on my way out the door right now but if you have any more questions tadster i will look when i get back in a few hours. defenetly read up on stuff on that web sight ridge gave you. i dont know if you will be able to understand everything cuz it does get pretty technical and even i had some trouble at first but it explanes pretty much everything. and bowtie overdrives makes about the best kit i have ever seen for putting a TV cable on a carb. no one else makes a more screwup-proof system, that i know of, and its simple to install too,(the hardest part is figuring out what carb you have and it even explanes that on there too).
tardster
07-05-2004, 01:30 PM
Sweet, I kinda have abit of an understanding of how it works but now what Im really worried about is that lock-up thing. I dont know what I need to do there because I heard that if you have the original converter you dont need a lock-up but then i've heard no matter what you need a lock-up so im really confussed there.
ridge_runner
07-05-2004, 01:36 PM
well i ran mine for a while without the lock up kit installed with no problems.. but if its something your worried about go ahead and get the kit and install it.. just one thing less you have to do in the future when you do decide to get a stall converter
tardster
07-05-2004, 01:39 PM
What does the lock-up really do? will it mess up the trans if I dont run it or should I use the original converter? I just want to be able to drive down at highway speeds without it turning 4200 rpms.
ridge_runner
07-05-2004, 01:42 PM
http://www.bowtieoverdrives.com/catalog/catalog.php?Action=GETSUBCAT&CATID=O
this will tell you all about it
this will tell you all about it
tardster
07-05-2004, 03:03 PM
Without sounding stupid here, but that still leaves me confussed. I mean really all its getting at is it makes it easier on the tranny to tow and drive up and down hills. I just dont want to mess up my tranny, I dont plan on towing anything and there really isnt any big hills here where im at. Basically is this a must have, will it mess up my tranny if I dont use it? I know I need to get the tv cable for it or will the kickdown linkage work instead?
ridge_runner
07-05-2004, 03:25 PM
honestly i dont think its bad for the tranny but im not 100% positive, and i would order the tv cable kit with the base plate for the carb, thats what i did
68chevelle
07-05-2004, 03:46 PM
yeah, as far as the lockup, i dont think it will hurt anything if you run a lockup converter withought being wired for it. it just wont lock up. all it does when it locks up is it creates a solid coupling between the engine and the trans,(no sip and no torue multiplataion). its basicaly an economy thing. it will give you better millage and it will make the tranny run cooler. thats why they have the manual override switch thing to lock it up in 2nd and 3rd gear when twoing so that if your pulling a big hill and have to use the lower gears you can lockup the converter and it wont burn up from the slipage. you will never need the lockup in the lower geras unless your pulling a big hill and cant get into 4th. then you might. i would sugjest wiring it up though so that you do have it. its not a big deal but it will be better than not having it. you can also get aftermarket converters either with the lockup or without the lockup, persoanly i would always run one. the only time i would say not to is if it is spacificaly a drag car only. not being driven except at the strip.
now for the TV cable. i dont think the detent cable brackets will work because i dont know if the cable will phsyicaly attack to them or if they will give the correct geometry, it needs to be perfect. i would just say order the right stuff. then you will have no worries at all. unless you yourself put it on wrong.
now for the TV cable. i dont think the detent cable brackets will work because i dont know if the cable will phsyicaly attack to them or if they will give the correct geometry, it needs to be perfect. i would just say order the right stuff. then you will have no worries at all. unless you yourself put it on wrong.
ridge_runner
07-05-2004, 04:07 PM
yea i agree with 68... get the kit... cause the cables wont be the same length etc... and that will mess up the adjustment
tardster
07-05-2004, 04:22 PM
So as long as I use the 700r4 converter and get the tv cable it will be fine then correct? I just want to make sure. Also I have a 350 engine in my car will the coverter bolt up to the flywheel?
ridge_runner
07-05-2004, 04:38 PM
yup sure will... if you have it adjusted correctly...if thats the flywheel from when you have the th350 on your car then no... you have to use the flywheel off of the car you got the trans off of.... well you dont have to any 700r flywheel will work but you get the idea
tardster
07-05-2004, 04:48 PM
So the flywheel off of the 305 will fit on my 350? Because if it will I will make sure I use it on the 700r4 tranny.
ridge_runner
07-05-2004, 04:58 PM
yea
4onFloor
07-06-2004, 01:54 PM
So the flywheel off of the 305 will fit on my 350? Because if it will I will make sure I use it on the 700r4 tranny.
just leave the flywheel on your 350 and bolt the 700R4 up to it. i'm about 90% sure that your 305 flywheel wont fit on your 350 crank. in 1987 when GM fucked with the small blocks and changed the bolt cant on the heads, and went to one peice rear seal, they also changed the diameter of the hub on the end of the crankshaft. your 305 flywheel's bolt holes will line up, but it wont slide over the hub on the end of the crank.
i found this out when i put a first gen 350 into an 88 camaro that originally had a 305.
just leave the flywheel on your 350 and bolt the 700R4 up to it. i'm about 90% sure that your 305 flywheel wont fit on your 350 crank. in 1987 when GM fucked with the small blocks and changed the bolt cant on the heads, and went to one peice rear seal, they also changed the diameter of the hub on the end of the crankshaft. your 305 flywheel's bolt holes will line up, but it wont slide over the hub on the end of the crank.
i found this out when i put a first gen 350 into an 88 camaro that originally had a 305.
ridge_runner
07-06-2004, 11:14 PM
o really... hmmm..i dunno if it would work or not... my flywheel wouldnt line up.. the converter for the th350 is smaller then the one on the 700r4
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