exhausting
dsmodder
07-03-2004, 10:37 PM
anybody know if you can hook up a ported 1g manifold with a ported evo 8 O2 housing and an apexi n1 downpipe on a 2g gsx with a 7 bolt but soon will be swapped for a 6 bolt. and any suggestions to anything that would work better than that set up.
kjewer1
07-03-2004, 10:45 PM
That will all work. The 1g manifold is a piece though, I would suggest the 2g or EVO3.
dsmodder
07-04-2004, 10:14 AM
yea i was looking at slowboy and i think i will go with a evo mani stage 2 ported it looked fuckin sweet
scottsee
07-04-2004, 10:38 AM
i am really really sure i read somewhere the evo o2 housing & n1 downpipe dont match up!!
kjewer1
07-04-2004, 05:41 PM
The N1 DP must not have slotted holes then. Actually I should know that, I use Apexi flanges all over my exhaust :lol: You will need to slot the holes in the flange.
RRE offers a DP made specifically to mate with the EVO3 O2 housing. Its about 230 bucks, so it may save you some coin too. The angle is also changed slightly so it clears your oil pan. Now that scotsee made me think about it, I would only run the RRE downpipe with the EVO3 O2...
Wait a minute..., What catback are you going to use? If it has a full 3" flange the RRE DP will bolt right up. If it goes back to the shyte stock sized flange (bolts to stock cat) your hosed.
RRE offers a DP made specifically to mate with the EVO3 O2 housing. Its about 230 bucks, so it may save you some coin too. The angle is also changed slightly so it clears your oil pan. Now that scotsee made me think about it, I would only run the RRE downpipe with the EVO3 O2...
Wait a minute..., What catback are you going to use? If it has a full 3" flange the RRE DP will bolt right up. If it goes back to the shyte stock sized flange (bolts to stock cat) your hosed.
dsmodder
07-04-2004, 06:25 PM
i was gonna have a shop customize the rest of my exhaust from the downpipe back. probly use the n1 muffler. but i think the apexi n1 exhaust does have a 3" flange right? also will the evo manifold bolt up to both a 7bolt and 6 bolt because i want to swap this set up over to my 6 bolt when i get it.
dsmodder
07-04-2004, 06:55 PM
nevermind i found all that on the RRE site. the apexi n1 does bolt up to the RRE downpipe and the evo mani botls up to the 7 botl and requires a little trim to fit the 6 bolt. anohter question though... what determines whether you need to use an external wastegate or internal??????
JoeWagon
07-04-2004, 09:52 PM
the apexi n1 does bolt up to the RRE downpipe
Yep, I think all Apexi 3'' catbacks use the same flange, which is what the RRE downpipes use. If you are going to use a custom catback and an N1 muffler, just make sure to buy the flange, which is available from RRE somewhere in the DIY Exhaust sections...
anohter question though... what determines whether you need to use an external wastegate or internal??????
The turbo will make your decision as to which wastegate to use. You can use an internal wastegate on bigger turbos such as 50 trim Garrett's, but an external wastegate is going to give much better boost control on 20g/50 trim turbos and larger. What turbo do you want, and how much boost do you want to run? You almost have to read about all the wastegate quirks, like that you'll get boost creep trying to run low psi on an EVO3 16G with the regular flapper, but if you get the larger flapper you may not be able to run lower boost because it flies open...
Best to be specific with the turbo and make sure someone like Kevin gives it the OK :)
Yep, I think all Apexi 3'' catbacks use the same flange, which is what the RRE downpipes use. If you are going to use a custom catback and an N1 muffler, just make sure to buy the flange, which is available from RRE somewhere in the DIY Exhaust sections...
anohter question though... what determines whether you need to use an external wastegate or internal??????
The turbo will make your decision as to which wastegate to use. You can use an internal wastegate on bigger turbos such as 50 trim Garrett's, but an external wastegate is going to give much better boost control on 20g/50 trim turbos and larger. What turbo do you want, and how much boost do you want to run? You almost have to read about all the wastegate quirks, like that you'll get boost creep trying to run low psi on an EVO3 16G with the regular flapper, but if you get the larger flapper you may not be able to run lower boost because it flies open...
Best to be specific with the turbo and make sure someone like Kevin gives it the OK :)
dsmodder
07-04-2004, 09:56 PM
right on joe. im addicted to this forum cuz i learn so much. i want to go with the 20 g. and run around 17 or so psi all the time as a DD. buying hte flange from RRE and doing it custom will be a lot cheaper so im gonan do that. thanks for all the help with this and have a good 4th of july. im gonna blow some shit up right now and pretend its some terrorists. AMErica OWNS THEM
JoeWagon
07-04-2004, 09:59 PM
As for the custom stuff, I hope you have looked into buying the mandrel bends from RRE or jcwhitney instead of having them press bend the pipe.
dsmodder
07-06-2004, 01:37 AM
so basically ask RRE for eveyrthing i will need from their dp back and just have a custom shop weld it up for me. sounds better than guessing and hoping and im sure RRE would know. thanks agian for the help
kjewer1
07-06-2004, 01:45 AM
If you search on RKO you can find a list of the parts I used on my exhaust. A 3" apexi flange, a straight section of 3" tubing (5 feet is just enough), 2 3" 45s, and the muffler. Thats it. :) Its all welded up, with one small crush bent "adjustment."
dsmodder
07-07-2004, 09:56 PM
what is RKO? never heard of it. sounds like a plan tho.
kjewer1
07-07-2004, 11:35 PM
Oh yeah, that would help. Used to be in my sig ;) www.racingknowledge.org. Very slow lately, but there is still some good stuff like this in the archives...
dsmodder
07-09-2004, 09:40 PM
right on. by the way how did you (gsxracer) learn so much about dsms? experience? or do you work at a shop or what
kjewer1
07-11-2004, 03:24 AM
I have always been into cars, and did whatever work on my own cars I could. To be perfecly honest, when I did the first clutch swap in my car (4 years ago), I though I Would never get it back together... dozens and dozens of motor and tranny swaps later, I can do it in my sleep, lol. Takes 3 hours to pull the motor and tranny in my car, and one hour to break it down to the block. Just did Joe Gs car in 3 hours tonight as well.
It all comes from experience. You need the basics that apply to all cars, like how tools and fasteners work, how the various automotive systems work, knowledge of physics/fluiddynamics for turbo cars, etc, all help. Then its just a matter of time before you have every bolt in the car memorized :D
As much as some poeple think I know, I still constantly learn more, and there are many many people far more knowledgable than me. Any one can do it, but it was a huge investment for me, in time and money, to get to this point... ;) Anyone with half a brain can do it.
It all comes from experience. You need the basics that apply to all cars, like how tools and fasteners work, how the various automotive systems work, knowledge of physics/fluiddynamics for turbo cars, etc, all help. Then its just a matter of time before you have every bolt in the car memorized :D
As much as some poeple think I know, I still constantly learn more, and there are many many people far more knowledgable than me. Any one can do it, but it was a huge investment for me, in time and money, to get to this point... ;) Anyone with half a brain can do it.
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