Water Spots?!?
BlaZeNSmoKe
07-03-2004, 12:03 PM
Yo, I got a '96 Honda Accord and my mom's co-worker had it before me. He didn't put the car in the garage at all, so everytime it rained, it was takin a toll on the paint. Now that I have it, I put it in a garage. But everytime I wash the car, and dry it off, I see these big rain spots, if y'all know what I'm talking about. I wet my cloth and go over it again, and it goes away for about 5 secs and then it comes back :uhoh: . It's done that on the body and the windows. My friend says my car needs to get "buffed"...and if so, what kind of price range are we talking about. Any other suggestions is certainly welcomed. Thanks in advance. ~PeacE~
BlaZeNSmoKe
07-03-2004, 03:41 PM
Come on I know one of y'all got to know what to do about this? I mean, really.
92'SiHatchBack
07-03-2004, 04:12 PM
Hey meguiars makes a really coll car care kit with the buffer and every polish imaginable and I think its about 200 some bucks
h2295accord
07-04-2004, 02:33 AM
try do a search for this polish ing kit called zaino brothers. i thinks its like 85 for the set. alot of the car show guys use it
BlaZeNSmoKe
07-04-2004, 03:33 PM
Aiight thanks for the suggestions y'all. Appreciate it.
eckoman_pdx
07-04-2004, 04:52 PM
Water spots are spots where the minerls in water has "ethced" into the paint, like many little mini-craters. If fact, if you look at them under a microscope, thats what they are. Your car will need to be cut and buffed. However, if you've never used a rotary before, I don't suggest it, as you can seriously ruin your paint with a Rotary buffer if you don't know what you are doing. Meguirs Daul action and a foam cutting pad will rip through it probably, though it's really hard to say without being there if it needs a heavy cut compound or if meduim cut will work. I have seen water spots where Swirl Remover 2.0 by hand takes it out, and I have seen it where You need Heavy Cut compound and a wool pad. I detail for a job, and suggest finding a professional detailer to do it, but make sure they are reputable, not all detailers are eqaul!!
Also, if you are really wanting to attemp it on your own, Meguirs makes a D/A Polisher (Daul Action Polisher) for about $220. Get there soft foam cutting pad and polishing pad. This is a lot safer for you to use without experince than a rotary, so you might want to try that. Just make sure to get the hang of it a litte before you go attack the whole car with it. If you use the D/A polisher, read the back of the product and make sure it's for use with a D/A polisher. SO of Meguirs products are for hand only, some for ortary only, etc. Make sure you are buying the correct thing. If you are confused, you can call their customer car number.
1-800-347-5700
www.meguiars.com
Also check out auto magic, they amek soem great professional detailing products too
www.automagic.com
Also, if you are really wanting to attemp it on your own, Meguirs makes a D/A Polisher (Daul Action Polisher) for about $220. Get there soft foam cutting pad and polishing pad. This is a lot safer for you to use without experince than a rotary, so you might want to try that. Just make sure to get the hang of it a litte before you go attack the whole car with it. If you use the D/A polisher, read the back of the product and make sure it's for use with a D/A polisher. SO of Meguirs products are for hand only, some for ortary only, etc. Make sure you are buying the correct thing. If you are confused, you can call their customer car number.
1-800-347-5700
www.meguiars.com
Also check out auto magic, they amek soem great professional detailing products too
www.automagic.com
integrasedan
07-05-2004, 05:44 PM
you can try using a clay or precleaner system. I've used clay and it gets rid of all types of gunk that you thought was already clean and makes the paint really glass smooth.
then wash it again and then wax for protection. it'll get some out and is cheap.
then wash it again and then wax for protection. it'll get some out and is cheap.
eckoman_pdx
07-05-2004, 09:16 PM
you can try using a clay or precleaner system. I've used clay and it gets rid of all types of gunk that you thought was already clean and makes the paint really glass smooth.
then wash it again and then wax for protection. it'll get some out and is cheap.
No, clay won't work for water spots...clay if for what you just said. Removing BONDED contaminets, like tar, overspray, etc...the things that make your paint feel rough when you run your w=hand over it. Using Overspray Clay on a car will make is smooth as glass by removing the bonded contaminets.
However, water spots are caused when the minerals in the water. When the water dries, the minerals are left on the paint and they cause water marks. The water marks are the leftover mineral deposists. These marks are often "etched" into the paint, like mini craters. If you look at them under a microscope, that's what tey look like. Depending on the severity of water spots, a simple hand polsih suing a product like swirl remover 2.0 by hand case remove them (if the spots are just light and the ninerals havn't etched much. If the water spots are new are a fresh rain, simple quick detailer can remove them (unless it's acid rain or well water heavy in minerals, it can take a little time for it to really etch bad. However, it souds like his are neither of these.
His water spots don't come off with a wash and dry, they are definatly ecthed in from his desricptions. Simple clay, quick detailer, etc won't work. Maybe a hand clearer like swirl remover, but even then I'd be skeptical (though it doesn't hurt to try before having a detialer do it). He'll need to cut and buff them out since they are etched (most water marks are etched, though the severity of his sound like a lot more than a new, fresh light etching). Daul Action cleaner polish and a foam cutting pad should remove them. What it does is it cuts down to a fresh layer of clear below the etch marks.
Anyways though, overspray clay is good stuff, it's just the wrong product to remove severe water marks like he has.
then wash it again and then wax for protection. it'll get some out and is cheap.
No, clay won't work for water spots...clay if for what you just said. Removing BONDED contaminets, like tar, overspray, etc...the things that make your paint feel rough when you run your w=hand over it. Using Overspray Clay on a car will make is smooth as glass by removing the bonded contaminets.
However, water spots are caused when the minerals in the water. When the water dries, the minerals are left on the paint and they cause water marks. The water marks are the leftover mineral deposists. These marks are often "etched" into the paint, like mini craters. If you look at them under a microscope, that's what tey look like. Depending on the severity of water spots, a simple hand polsih suing a product like swirl remover 2.0 by hand case remove them (if the spots are just light and the ninerals havn't etched much. If the water spots are new are a fresh rain, simple quick detailer can remove them (unless it's acid rain or well water heavy in minerals, it can take a little time for it to really etch bad. However, it souds like his are neither of these.
His water spots don't come off with a wash and dry, they are definatly ecthed in from his desricptions. Simple clay, quick detailer, etc won't work. Maybe a hand clearer like swirl remover, but even then I'd be skeptical (though it doesn't hurt to try before having a detialer do it). He'll need to cut and buff them out since they are etched (most water marks are etched, though the severity of his sound like a lot more than a new, fresh light etching). Daul Action cleaner polish and a foam cutting pad should remove them. What it does is it cuts down to a fresh layer of clear below the etch marks.
Anyways though, overspray clay is good stuff, it's just the wrong product to remove severe water marks like he has.
BlaZeNSmoKe
07-06-2004, 01:05 PM
Damn ecko, you know ya shit man. So please tell me if I understand this right. I don't have any experience with a rotary buffer, and my water spots are severe, so I should take it to a local detailer to have him cut and buff it? The guy that I bought this car from, didn't put it in a garage at all during the whole time he had it, so I'm pretty sure that the spots are etched in there pretty good.
eckoman_pdx
07-11-2004, 05:26 PM
Damn ecko, you know ya shit man. So please tell me if I understand this right. I don't have any experience with a rotary buffer, and my water spots are severe, so I should take it to a local detailer to have him cut and buff it? The guy that I bought this car from, didn't put it in a garage at all during the whole time he had it, so I'm pretty sure that the spots are etched in there pretty good.
Yes, since you don't have any experince with a rotary buffer, do not use one yourself. Call a proffesional detailer and have them do it. Beware, not all detailers are eqaul, so try to find a good one. I have worked as a detailer for a long time, and I have seen some good ones and well as some hacks along the way.
if he's good and knows anything, he'll know what to do, but basically you'll want him to cut and buff it (wax it too to protect it).
If you want to try it yourself, you can try an D/A polisher. Meguiar's makes a decent one. Although not as effective as a rotary in the hands of someone who knows how to use one, they can be good for some things. I am not sure how good it will be for this appication though. This type of thing is more what you'd want a rotary for. If you try the D/A, use a foam cutting pad and...if it will work with a D/A polisher, try daul action cleaner polish (I forget if it's for rotary use only or not)
If you want to leave it to a proffesional, just look for a good reputable detailer; if he's honest he'll be able to do it. It may not exactly be cheap (price wise), but you'll be pleased with the results after he's cut and buffed it. A rotary in the hands of someone who knows what their doing can yeild some amazing results.
Yes, since you don't have any experince with a rotary buffer, do not use one yourself. Call a proffesional detailer and have them do it. Beware, not all detailers are eqaul, so try to find a good one. I have worked as a detailer for a long time, and I have seen some good ones and well as some hacks along the way.
if he's good and knows anything, he'll know what to do, but basically you'll want him to cut and buff it (wax it too to protect it).
If you want to try it yourself, you can try an D/A polisher. Meguiar's makes a decent one. Although not as effective as a rotary in the hands of someone who knows how to use one, they can be good for some things. I am not sure how good it will be for this appication though. This type of thing is more what you'd want a rotary for. If you try the D/A, use a foam cutting pad and...if it will work with a D/A polisher, try daul action cleaner polish (I forget if it's for rotary use only or not)
If you want to leave it to a proffesional, just look for a good reputable detailer; if he's honest he'll be able to do it. It may not exactly be cheap (price wise), but you'll be pleased with the results after he's cut and buffed it. A rotary in the hands of someone who knows what their doing can yeild some amazing results.
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