Rematch 3000GT SL vs. SRT-4

Well i just had my car tuned new injectors, plugs,wires,and recharged intake. I finally talked my friend into giving me another shot at his stock srt-4, the results are as follows.

we head to the local street strip and line up from a 20 mph role, i pull a half a car in first and he pulls even through second at this point we are at about 75 i shift into third and slowly walk him to a 3/4 to full car length victory. we finally shut down at the end of third which rests at about 105,

he tells me he had a bad run so we line up from a stop, he honks 3 times we launch on the third, he pulls a 1/4 of a car through first and second towards the end of third i finally pull even and pass him just as i shift to 4th, i walked him all the way to the end of 4th about 130+ leaving me 1 and a half cars ahead. needles to say he was shocked, he gave me props and we went to the local i hop for a late night breakfast end of story.

for those unfamiliar with my modifications they are as follows
k&n fipk intake
dual plate clutch
lightweight flywheel
borla cat
17 inch weld evo rims ridin on toyo proxes T1'S
lightweight aftermarket underdrive pullys

the end thank you all.

huh, well good job. you must be one heck of a driver.
how long has he had the srt4?

about 3 months, i posted the first race a while back if anyone is curious they can look it up.

Sounds like you had fun. :iceslolan

What do you run in the 1/4 mile?

i havent run in a while, so im not entirely sure the last time i ran i put out a 14.3 how about you? by the way sweet ride, if someone could tell me how i would like to post some pics of my baby?

and the time slip.

i havent run in a while, so im not entirely sure the last time i ran i put out a 14.3 how about you? by the way sweet ride, if someone could tell me how i would like to post some pics of my baby?

I haven't ran in ages either... and last time I did was with a different engine. Going from stuff like desktop dyno and other specs from edelbrock I've gotten an estimate of 13.5, but I can't drive worth a shit for 1/4 mile... :lol2: Prolly end up at 15 flat.

Thanks for the compliment. I signed up on cardomain.com for free. You can follow my link at the bottom that says "never ending money pit" and from there you can go to the homepage and sign up, etc.

thanks bro, but i dont think your that bad to make your car run a 15.

so ya killed the old neon ay, good, i'm starting to hate those cars

LOL no one likes an overdog. Luckily for me there's only one in my town.

Very nice kill, those neons are damn fast.

thanks to all. young when are you gunna fix that tranny man thats killin ya.

you must be one hell of a driver

yes i am lol jk, im better than most plus i know exactly how to drive my car ive had mine a lot longer than hes had his.

you can upload pictures on photobucket.com for free. of course we want to see your baby.

COOL but my question is do i need digital camera software to upload and how do i go about doin it

good kill...........

you must be in low to mid 13s with a tune up and a clean filter..........

Im going to try that hopefully Ill be able to do the same to

nah, i think he's more in the low 14's area, we have long gears, even the sl's. thats why the second run the srt-4 pulled on him and up toward 100mph+ he gained back ground.

he said he put out 14.3 and Im guessing this was before the tune up and clean air filter and he lost to the srt4 last time, doing the configurations that should be putting him in the low to mid 13s with those modds, cause the srt4 is a high 13s car and him beating it by a car and a half with those modds is an accomplishment, especailly when he lost to the srt last time by the same or something like that

The 2003 srt-4 is quoted at 14.2 @99.5 mph and my SL hadent had a tune up in over 30,000 miles if you recall the first time we raced he only beat me by about 3/4 of a car length. so dont you think a recharged fipk and a complete tune up would allow for such a gain. note the 04 srt-4's are quoted at 13.9 at 103 mph if that were the vehicle i raced i would probably have gotten spanked but my friend has the 03 so its legitimate.

im not trying to be rude 209 just trying to clear the facts.

thanks for your support youngvr4.

shouldnt that be putting your car in the mid.......to low........what 13s???????????

HELL NO, like i said they should be in the low 14's
his dang tune up didn't gain him 70hp to drop from 14.3(which is a good run for his mods) to 13.4 :disappoin
thats what i should be running on a bad day :evillol:

sorry if i sound like a punk, i'm just pissed off right now!

great job 3ksl95! how much have you spent on those mods??

about 3000 with instalation, thanks 3kgt8, and thanks to young, both of your support is appreciated.

no problem. im always there to defend or support my 3000gt. so what do you think you're running on the 1/4? any guesses?

correction make that 2300 i looked up my records.

my guess is probably around 14.2-14.0 hopefully i will break into the 13's soon i will post pics of my car and slips when i figure out how.

so ya killed the old neon ay, good, i'm starting to hate those cars

I bet you hate F-350s more :lol2:

lol, thats wrong.

Good win, those cars are fast and in my experience run all sorts of times based on the driver's ability. I have seen the 04s run anywhere from 13.8-14.6 stock. Last week there was a guy who could not do better than 14.4 in his brand new 04. So I would imagine those cars, 03s or 04s would be a good race for you. Nothing better than beating a car you know has a good chance at handing you your ass. :)

I bet you hate F-350s more :lol2:

:lol: :iceslolan

So... how does a 3000GT SL that normally run low 15s... put down a 14.3 with very minor mods? When a 3000GT VR4, are known to put down mid 13s with all that extra power?

This is part of an article, from1994, the track times are said to on a very hot and humid days. The times posted are uncorrected.
http://import.h8rs.com/carrrnuttt/Article.jpg


And if you truely are running a 14.3, then get yourself on this list.
http://www.importpoweronline.com/3Squicklist/

A 14.3 would mean you're one of the fastest 3000GT SL's out there with minor modifications...


Just wondering is all...

LOL

I wasn't going to say anything, but I was wondering the same thing.

I have ran a couple of SL's, one of them at least had an exhaust.

The stock-looking one, I ran from a stop (merge ahead), and was ahead of it by at least a car-and-a-half, by the time I shifted into third.

The one with at least an exhaust (heard it), stayed at my passenger's-side door from about 50 to 100 mph.

My best run so far is a 15.00. Either my car is actually faster than that, or you have one of the freakest SL's in existence.

well, first of all thank you for being polite, and ive seen sl's run 15.0 -14.9 stock with damn good drivers i will post my the slips when get to a comp that can, as well as pics of my car. the story is true so unless my slips are wrong or my friend really sucks i am being quite honest. is 14.3 really considered one of the fastest sl's jeez does nobody ever modify them, i mean crap a 3.0 6 cyl should be able to put down low 14's modified when its already pushin 222 hp +.

hey carrrrnut what car do you have that is pushin 15.0 just wonderin?

He's got a '92 Nissan Sentra SE-R with a pretty much stock SR20DE. Only modifications per se' are the cone filter and advanced timing.

He ran the 15.00 @ 99mph according to GTech Pro. Which usually run a few mph faster, so we'll say 94-95mph trap. He also had balding crappy tires, and the clutch was probably on its way out, cause soon after he discovered that it was slipping.

thanks, i apreciate the response could you tell me how to post pics, should i just use cardomain?

Cardomain would work.

Well, there's another V6 Mitsu offering that puts-out similar power as your car - and is considerably lighter.


A 2003-04 Mitsubishi Eclipse GTS, with 210hp, and a curb-weight of 3,241 lbs (coupe), has a power-to-weight (PTW) ratio of 15.4 lbs-per-hp. It even has a slightly better TQ rating of 205, versus your 201.

Your car, at 3,524 lbs, has a PTW ratio of 15.8 lbs-per-hp: http://www.team3s.com/FAQ-Specs1.htm

The Eclipse GTS, is a low 15-second car: http://www.modernracer.com/mitsubishieclipsegts.html

See, here are your mods, as you listed:
k&n fipk intake
dual plate clutch
lightweight flywheel
borla cat
underdrive pulleys

I can completely believe those mods on both cars can do maybe mid-high 14's...but LOW 14's, or even enough power to walk a high 13-second capable car?

Stock SRT's trap 99 to 102 mph. What was your trap in your 14.3 run?

95.4 mph trap, and if you look at the link you gave me the the 95 SL has the same tq rating at 205

and the curb weight is 3,439

Just for the sake of it... the power to weight ratio of stock SRT-4 is 13.05:1 if you do the numbers for a stock '03 model with 220hp.

But they're known to dyno at around 220-240whp depending on the year. The they're... obvously severly underated.


Puts out more power to the ground, what your car makes at the crank... kinda weird don't ya think?

yea if you are talkin a stock SL which mine is not

you guys are all wrong the 3000gt SL weighs about 3200lbs and it should see low 14s easily with the $2300 he has put in it. it sounds reasonable to me.

oh ya and its 205 lbs-ft same as the GTS.

you guys are all wrong the 3000gt SL weighs about 3200lbs and it should see low 14s easily with the $2300 he has put in it. it sounds reasonable to me.



No... '95 3000GT SL is 3439lbs, and yes it's got 205tq.

Carrrnuttt misquoted the years on accident.

Re-read this link's info, all the basic info on 3000GT and Stealths.
http://www.team3s.com/FAQ-Specs1.htm

when get to a comp that can

Try Kinkos.

oh yea its 97s-99s that weigh 3200lbs sorry about that.

not doubting your kill again but I didnt want to say anything either............

so a stock sl runs low 15s according to redneck.....

and you clock 14.3 with intake, cat, flywheel, pulley, and a tune up running on 17s and a 3439 pound car.........

ok stock numbers say low 15s, with your modds and your driving your 14.3 and lost to the srt by 3/4 of a car length the first time....... then you came back with a vengence a tune up put you at 14.2 to 14.1 and mopped the floor with him beating him by 1 and a half car lengths am I correct....

ya stock SLs run low 15s

there's sl's out there running 12's, they turbo charge them, theres somone on this board who has one.

just commenting on the "one of the fastest sl's" thing.

btw i didn't call out his race for these reasons: sl's have been spoken in the 3kgt world to have run times as fast as 14.8 stock(obviously freaks) so with intake, exhaust, flywheel and pulleys, it would be possible to pull out a 14.3. the same reason i don't doubt camaro ss owners who say they ran 13.1 stock and even broke into the 12's. and the same reason i dont doubt srt-4 owners who say they run 13.6 back to back.

now for this to all happen he would have to be a superb driver (which is not impossible) and have a slight factory freak (which is not impossible) which is why i didn't call him a liar :2cents:

there's sl's out there running 12's, they turbo charge them, theres somone on this board who has one.

just commenting on the "one of the fastest sl's" thing.



I was refering to the list, those cars were N/A and running low 14s.

there's sl's out there running 12's, they turbo charge them, theres somone on this board who has one.

just commenting on the "one of the fastest sl's" thing.

btw i didn't call out his race for these reasons: sl's have been spoken in the 3kgt world to have run times as fast as 14.8 stock(obviously freaks) so with intake, exhaust, flywheel and pulleys, it would be possible to pull out a 14.3. the same reason i don't doubt camaro ss owners who say they ran 13.1 stock and even broke into the 12's. and the same reason i dont doubt srt-4 owners who say they run 13.6 back to back.

now for this to all happen he would have to be a superb driver (which is not impossible) and have a slight factory freak (which is not impossible) which is why i didn't call him a liar :2cents:
Claims can only be proven with slips but that would be one strong motor!

would a turbo sl be faster then a vr4?

I don't think so maybe with the right add-ons

Claims can only be proven with slips but that would be one strong motor!

true, but you also know that eclipse gs-t and gsx have been known to put down high 14's. they have 210hp, the sl has 222hp and 215lbstq. it is heavier than the eclipse but also has more power.
ya see where i'm going with this?


btw, the average time for an sl is low 15's, lets say 15.3. thats about what the average sl runs with the average driver.

would a turbo sl be faster then a vr4?

answer: probably not at first
traction is a huge issue...FWD vs. vr4 AWD
there is a guy on this board that has the TT conversion to his auto SL and has dumped money and effort into making it a damn fast car that can take down stock vr4s easy. But with a single turbo kit with average boost and no other mods helping get traction, I would think the SLs should still be behind the vr4 in a 1/4. From a roll at speeds over a hundred...then probably the turbo SL

3ksl95...about posting pics, you will need a digital camera or a scanner, for directions on posting them on this site, go to the 3000gt forum, do a search for a thread entitled "let's see some pics" or something like that, Yogs wrote down directions for me in that thread for posting it using AF's server for space. It is more limiting then cardomain, but it's good enough for quick stuff like timeslips.

THANKS igovert smile

true, but you also know that eclipse gs-t and gsx have been known to put down high 14's. they have 210hp, the sl has 222hp and 215lbstq. it is heavier than the eclipse but also has more power.
ya see where i'm going with this?


btw, the average time for an sl is low 15's, lets say 15.3. thats about what the average sl runs with the average driver.

I know where you are coming from you are right but again it is a power to weight ratio in this situation.

not bad

Time slip?