Iran.....the next Iraq?

It could be. I don't see Israel sitting on the sidelines while Iran makes a bomb. They'll bomb the plant in the same way they did in Iraq.

The UN won't do a thing one way or the other so my bet is on Israel.













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Hmmmmmm.

Is all I have to say.

:lol2: Yea let's see if this time, the "intelligence" they gathered arent as false as the ones in Iraq

"This is yet another example of Iran thumbing its nose at the international community," Bolton said.
Ha! That's rich!

Ugh, here we go again. Same shit, different fan.

I say the current real BIG issue is the Israeli/Palestine conflict. Things going from bad to worse in that region.

/\ True, but what can the States profit from that war???

/\ True, but what can the States profit from that war???


Possibly, the Jewish connections with Israel. But that brings a bunch of extra issue's.

they already have all the connections...

Go Israel. Gotta love those guys.

oh yeah, what a wonderful government. let me tell you. we should all throw our unflagging support at a government unconcerned with human decency or rights, and unconcerned with the lives of innocent civilians.

i know thats what i want my country to model itself after. oh, wait...

Actually they are concerned with human rights and human decency and they are concerned with the lives of innocent civilians(In israel).

Actually they are concerned with human rights and human decency and they are concerned with the lives of innocent civilians(In israel).
just as much as the Bush admin. You have a country that demolishes the homes of the families of a terrorist. So I guess thats repecting human rights and is a descnet thing to do to the lives of the innocent civilians that had nothing to do with the war going on. What a great government to respect! :thumbsup:

you didn't read my post carefully enough.

Good for Isreal. The Isrealis dont fuck around. They see a terrorist, they send in a helicopter and blow him to little bits with missiles. They are proactive about this, and we have alot to learn from them. A country is suppose to provide for its people and protect them, at least in democracy. Isreal is constantly under attack from those terrorist rat bastards, they have every right to go full force and attempt to take out strong holds. Eventually they are going to wise up, and blow Arafat to bits, then things will look a little better, providing the rest of the region doesnt invade. Even if they did, the Isrealis fought back against them before, and doubled thier land holding in a week. They can do it again.

Who gives a damn about terrorists? Or thier families? Isreal has every right to blow the shit out of thier little huts and to blow the family straight to hell. Terrorists dont respect human rights, and there is no reason that the US or Isreal or the UK should respect thiers. International law is bullshit.

Respect is a two way street, and the terrorists are exactly what thier name says, terror and hate mongers. How can you respect a group of individuals that can hack someones head off and put it on TV and the internet for a thrill?

Who gives a damn about terrorists? Or thier families? Isreal has every right to blow the shit out of thier little huts and to blow the family straight to hell. Terrorists dont respect human rights, and there is no reason that the US or Isreal or the UK should respect thiers. International law is bullshit.




Well,you've convinced me..............


.............that you have absolutely no clue whatsoever about what you are talking about.Hopefully your next door neighbour gets suspected of terrorism,and they blow the shit out of you and try and justify it with more of this simplistic codswallop.

You know what, if I got blown to bits cause my nieghbor is a terrorist, then by all means go for it. And I dont know what kind of backwards country your in, but I smell something fishy

By the way, my neighbor is from the middle east, and is a truck driver....
He very well could be a terrorist.

/\ How simple minded you are...
So let me see, you think everyone from the middle-east is a terrorist or potentially one?

Yeah, I keep an eye one them, and I believe that racial profiling is okay.

And where are you from again?
race, religion etc...?

I also think every Mexican in California is an illegal alien until they can prove me wrong otherwise.

White, pentacostal, anything else you want, and address maybe? If you want to know it, I will tell you. Unlike terrorists, I have nothing to hide

So because your white would it be alright for me to call you a liar, cheater, rapist, terrorist, theif, pedophile, racist, sexist, murderer, psychopath etc... because at some point a caucasion once committed one of those crimes?

You can call me whatever you want, the difference is if I would take offense or not. And by the way, I have actually been called worse.

And because you have been accused of all of those, you will be sentenced to life (or death penalty depending on where you live)




Do you find that fair?

I dont think sexism is a crime. or racism, or lying to a degree. Its not illegal to be a psychopath, unless you eat little boys or somethign bad....

Death, oh my, thats horrible. It can be fair, but thats why there are courts for this. Listen, I dont make policy for the government. I agree with what my government does on certain issues.
Its not right for a government to pass judgement on a group of people, remember the Nazis?? With that said, I see nothing wrong with racial profiling, probably because everyone does it anyway, you just wont find anyone to admit it.
In a fair government, at least, things are right and can be justified. Do I agree with the Iraq war? I agree with the reasoning, but I dont agree with the current strategy. Isreal? I support them, hell Jews already have the cards against them anyway.
I dont think my nieghbor is a terrorist, hes got a family, and is all about capitalism. I dont think every Mexican is a illegal alien, but alot of them are.
YOu can think what you want about me, it doesnt matter to me, but I beleive in equality. But when there is a problem, like terrorism or illegal immigration, steps need to be taken to protect the majority of a countries population.

Just because racial profiling exists does not mean it's "ok" to do it. The difference is that when a terrorst commits a crime, the religion is blamed fr it. Why? Because he claimed to be doing it in the name of his God. So then all those who follow that religion are now faced witht he fact that others see them as terrorists
not fair

Religion? I didnt even consider Religion. I think religion inspires some wierd stuff sometimes, but I dont blame it. I might be white and protestant, and whatever, but I never shun a different religion. As far as I am concerned God is God, no matter what you call him. I dont bash religion, never have.

Not talking about you in perticular but in general

Generally, sure, but every religion has fanatics.

Generally, sure, but every religion has fanatics.
RAZ= Is AF considered a religion? Cause if it is RAZ is a Fanatic

Anything could be a religion. And he definatly is a fanatic.

I also think every Mexican in California is an illegal alien until they can prove me wrong otherwise.

Racist garbage like this will get you banned from AF very quickly.Please STFU and have a nice day. :smile:

Its not racist. In my nieghbor hood, you will be hard pressed to find anyone with a green card.

Well,perhaps we should assume that you are an illegal immigrant until you can prove otherwise?

Ill fax you a copy of my birth cert. drivers license, whatever you want. Either way, thats my opinion. My wife is Mexican, and I know she is legal. Her parents are legal.......I dont know about her other family members.
My pastor is legal, and his english is excellent.
YOu can accuse me of racisim all you want, but again, that is YOUR opinion.

Acuusing all Mexicans in California of being illegal aliens si kinda harsh. Just because some/most of the latin people you know are illegal, does not mean some/most of them in that state of California are illegal.
That's being racist :D

:evillol: you guys made my day.

first off racial profiling is a form of racism. just because your using stereotypes doesn't make it any less offensive to the people it's towards.

and yes maybe some times religion is to blame. the crusades are a great example of what people will do the for their god.
then again when was the last time you heard someone say they were dying for budda?

Good for Isreal. The Isrealis dont fuck around.

oh if you only knew :shakehead. but i can understand. it can be really easy to support a war and the deaths of the innocent lives around it. just as long as you don't have to see it every day. know the people being killed and wounded.

They are proactive about this, and we have alot to learn from them. A country is suppose to provide for its people and protect them, at least in democracy. Isreal is constantly under attack from those terrorist rat bastards.

by terrorists you mean the people who used to live there and farm that land. i don't know about you but if some people moved in, forcing me move for the land my family has farmed for many generations. i would be a bit choked to.

Who gives a damn about terrorists? Or thier families? Isreal has every right to blow the shit out of thier little huts and to blow the family straight to hell. Terrorists dont respect human rights, and there is no reason that the US or Isreal or the UK should respect thiers. International law is bullshit.

oh right terrorist aren't people i forgot. the families around them most know they're terrorists. so hell they're not people either.

http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/C3994F6B-9576-4702-94E3-73EA1470182E.htm
http://www.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,4057,10098527%5e1702,00.html
http://www.ipc.gov.ps/ipc_e/ipc_e-1/e_News/news2004/2004_07/006.html

you say this is right?

Most of the poeple I know are legal, quite the reverse of what you have. But illegals are out there, and they break the law. I think they should all be rounded up and given back to Vincente Fox to deal with. Besides, if you dont live in California, your opinion is really useless, cause you dont deal with it. Especially in Canada, where the Canadian Government actually invites illegals to work agriculture there.

Farm the land? Before the Jews went there, it was a barren desert. Now because of those Jews, they have developed their own form of agriculture and have made the desert a great place to grow things.

Treat terrorists like people? Why? They are just going to be responsible for blowning up a bus anyway. Beter to take them out before they can. And as far as thier neighbors, they all know which nieghbor is a terrorist, they just wont say anything. Thier entire culture for the last 50 years has been to try and get back at Isreal. It would have been better if they just cooperated and not raised scum like Arafat to continue the conflict.

Terrorists ignore human rights, that means they should have the right to live and the opporunity to kill? Is that what you want?

I agree that the terrorists should suffer, but why the family? No, the neighbours and families don't always know if their mother/father/brother/neice etc is a terrorist, so why try and wash blood with blood? So because I don't live in California, it doesnt matter. Ok, you don't live in the middle-east, your opinion matters less :thefinger :lol:
Cooperated and have their lands taking away from them?

If you dont take out the family, then a bunch of little kids grow up wanting to avenge little Jihadis death.

By the way, back to Iran.......

You know, yeah, Im a fool. Whatever, Im done arguing you. Until next time..

If you dont take out the family, then a bunch of little kids grow up wanting to avenge little Jihadis death.

Well,this can't go unanswered.You sir,are a dirtbag of the lowest order.You care nothing for human rights,justice or humanity.You are no better than the terrorists that you claim to despise.Your opinion is worth nothing,your presence here is but an annoying drone.Please, go get a bit more education,a job and a family.It might just turn you into a better person.

I have a headache from everything.

O.K HERE IS THE SIGN!!!!!

:bricks1: :wave: :22yikes: :dogpile: :boink:


The US gets bombed, we say bye bye, then shit! Other terrorist see ample opportunity to jump in the shit fest. Last but not least, The US just recieved a royal ass railing. WHY??? Because we are making the sign bigger and bigger: saying

[SIZE=6]

:wtf:

Human Rights.Justice.Humanity. War. Goverment wanting to halt elections. Racial Profiling. Eye in the sky.

The US is doing just what everyone wants. Falling apart. This country, That country. What about our country.

The point is. We are more of a target now, more so than before. Helping other countries is well and doubt, but right now, this country, the US needs helps..

If you dont take out the family, then a bunch of little kids grow up wanting to avenge little Jihadis death.

You sir, should be severely beaten around the head with a big black dildo.

Hey you know what, I dont care about human rights of terrorists, big fuckin deal, they are a waste of oxygen. My government is doing exactly what they should with them, and thats what everyone is so pissed off about. The years of the Clinton Admin dulled the worlds mind. I might not be any better than a terrorist when it comes to thier rights, they have none. I didnt shed a tear shooting the little bastards, and I sure as hell will not shed one now.

Care to be removed from this board for trolling? your attitude is a disgrace to your country.

If you dont take out the family, then a bunch of little kids grow up wanting to avenge little Jihadis death.
You're sick.

Youy know, as far as this board goes, I was just expressing my opinion, and its okay if you dont like it. YOu can accuse me of racism or whatever. Unlike my more forgetful citizens, I remember what the terrorists have done. And I doubt that I will forget.

But I have learned and think I have contributed some useful information (yeah, actually dealing with real cars). It would be a shame, but I would still come back. Either way, I dont care if you agree or not, those are my views. I get attacked for them, I loose my mind further and think of something even more outragious.

In reality, I may have killed up to 5 Taliban when killing terrorists seemed okay. I didnt mind then, I dont particularly mind now, but I know killing can be wrong. And thats what everyone is pissed off about.

Human rights are important, but I look at it from the stand point of kill or be killed. Survival is paramount to everything else. So, tying this in with the other ACLU thing, I can see what human rights activists are so pissed about. Secret trials and holding cells; it is against the constitution I swore to protect, for a different commander in chief, but sometimes it can be okay.

I see a problem with holding all those guys in Cuba. They have been there almost 3 years, and I dont think they had any useful information past the first 6 months they were there. Most should be let go. The ones that are dangerous should be given to the UN. Let the rest of the world be thier judges.

Trolling, maybe. I like a good arguement. And honestly, I cant argue with someone about TPS voltages, since they are absolute. Politics is dirty dirty stuff.

I can admit my faults and even to the extent of admitting instigating two threads. Despite that, I still hold my opinions, maybe reshaped to for better presentation.

Hey, to err is human; And I dont know the rest, been a long night. But I can admit when I am wrong, what about other?

Care to be removed from this board for trolling? your attitude is a disgrace to your country.
No its not...... its an attitude more people than you would ever expect possess and perfectly counteracts the pussyness that this country had built in the 8 years prior to W. Its a Ronald Reagan attitude. Its a George H. W. Bush attitude. Don't fuck with us. Arrogant.....maybe. But these little shits aren't going to be doing much 6 feet under.

No its not...... its an attitude more people than you would ever expect possess and perfectly counteracts the pussyness that this country had built in the 8 years prior to W. Its a Ronald Reagan attitude. Its a George H. W. Bush attitude. Don't fuck with us. Arrogant.....maybe. But these little shits aren't going to be doing much 6 feet under.

I'm sure that the thousands of Iraquis who never left their home country and never posed a threat to America ,but are still dead as a result of George's looney crusade would disagree with you.

Bush is a deranged monster with no concept of humanity and needs to be stopped.A civilised result at the next election would do the trick,but a true patriot with a high powered rifle would be more just.Bush is a disgrace to his country and the human species.He's led his counrty to war against Iraq with a series of huge lies,when he should have been seeking justice for the WTC victims.The man is a coward and an opportunist.He went into office with an agenda to remove Saddam and used the memory of the WTC victims shamelessly to justify war crimes on a scale not seen anywhere else in the civilised world.

No its not...... its an attitude more people than you would ever expect possess and perfectly counteracts the pussyness that this country had built in the 8 years prior to W. Its a Ronald Reagan attitude. Its a George H. W. Bush attitude. Don't fuck with us. Arrogant.....maybe. But these little shits aren't going to be doing much 6 feet under.

Damn right, a good terrorist is a dead terrorist. The more the better.

Damn right, a good terrorist is a dead terrorist. The more the better.

Too bad that the American military can't tell the difference between a terrorist and a civillian,and the Oval office doesn't really give a shit.

10,000 dead in a little over 18 months.That's a pretty big number for such a pathetic lack of results.

Where's Osama?
Where's the WMD?
When do the trials of those responsible for the WTC attacks begin?

Bush has achieved jack shit.He's a liar and a loser.