God bless America's veterans.

And not in any snide sarcastic way. These are the people who have put their lives at risk for our safety. They deserve the greatest respect, admiration, and support we can give.

That said, this is worth a watch.

http://www.bushflash.com/vets.html

and a repost:

http://www.veteransforpeace.org/Dishonorable_discharge_112603.htm

As usual, this sort of thing does not surprise me one bit. Bush sends troops to war, yet they come back home to their country, screwed over by their commander-in-chief. No obvious appreciation for past veterans either. Maybe I might not agree with Bush sending our troops out to Iraq, but I think they should be well taken care of during and after they are finished in combat. They risk everything by going over there and serving. That, in itself, deserves the most appreciation and respect. Unfortunately, those words are not in GWB's vocabulary. :disappoin

Fuck Bush

Yeah, especially bless those who agree with you, right?

Yeah, especially bless those who agree with you, right?

Nice. Another one of your witty one-liners. http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/images/smilies/disappointed.gif

Since you obviously disagree, please show proof that what was presented above was wrong. Simple, no?

Yeah, especially bless those who agree with you, right?


what does agreeing have to do with it. these people gave a chunk of there life to protect you and your rights.

and now bush is pissing on them. if i lived in America i would down right inraged over this shit.

Nice. Another one of your witty one-liners. http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/images/smilies/disappointed.gif

Since you obviously disagree, please show proof that what was presented above was wrong. Simple, no?
How can i show proof of what he said was wrong? He said thanks to veterans. Jeez, take it easy.

This is one of the reasons I can not vote for Bush this election.


Oh yea I forgot.

Until the mid-1990s, veterans who were served by military hospitals and clinics until the Clinton Administration and Congress closed dozens of such facilities in the mid-1990s. Veterans then had to pay out-of-pocket costs to civilian doctors or purchase often expensive supplemental insurance policies.



Been happening for years. That doesn't make it right though.

the difference is, and correct if im way off base here, clinton didnt do it during a time of large scale military activity behind a rhetoric of how important our armed services were to us.

the fact that any president cuts military benifits (especially considering a huge portion of our military comes from the underprivaliged side of the economy anyway...ironic no?) is alarming.

There was no large scale military activity under Clinton. In fact, he cut our military spending by massive amounts,. Maybe that has something to do with this situation.

There was no large scale military activity under Clinton. In fact, he cut our military spending by massive amounts,. Maybe that has something to do with this situation.

Here you are, assuming shit again, without backing...

Snarl -- Clinton, Bush, probably Kerry afterwards... it boils my blood. We have a volunteer army. (well, less so now, THANKS STOP-LOSS!) But still, these men 'n women volunteer to put themselves in harm's way to protect their fellow citizens, often coming back dead or mutilated.

And what do they get? A big frigging knife in the back from the government that's supposed to look out for them while the troops look out for US.

This guy says it better than I can:

http://www.thismodernworld.com/weblog/mtarchives/week_2003_06_29.html#000838

He's a raging Clintonite (sigh) but he's right. What the hell is going on?

Fuck Bush

Is that the best you can do?

i dont think the Bush Corporation is very good at running a country, Bush is an actor, or puppet and needs to be de-throwned before he does any more damage.

i dont think the Bush Corporation is very good at running a country, Bush is an actor, or puppet and needs to be de-throwned before he does any more damage.

Can you add more to it? Give me some examples or arguments to support your thoughts.

I would like to know in what way Bush is a puppet for anybody. Sure he speaks a lot about what congress is proposing and what different factions in the government are discussing, but in what way is he a puppet? That is an argument I've never understood.

It seems that no one supports taking away benefits from our military service men and women. We could complain about it here or we could e-mail our elected officials and let them know what we think and let them know how they should act on this topic. Here are a few links that will let you know who your elected official is and how to email him/her. You can make a difference. With 200,000 members on AF I'm estimating that at least 1/3 are American citizens. If 1/3 of that 1/3 emailed their respective elected govt. officials that comes out to 22,222 people writting letting them know we don't support cutting benefits to our military personel. That's a big statement.


http://www.house.gov/
http://www.senate.gov/general/contact_information/senators_cfm.cfm
http://www.congress.org/congressorg/home/
http://www.house.gov/house/MemberWWW.html
http://www.visi.com/juan/congress/
http://www.webslingerz.com/jhoffman/congress-email.html
http://www.house.gov/writerep/

Some are repeat sites that lead to different pages on that site.
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It seems that no one supports taking away benefits from our military service men and women. We could complain about it here or we could e-mail our elected officials and let them know what we think and let them know how they should act on this topic. Here are a few links that will let you know who your elected official is and how to email him/her. You can make a difference. With 200,000 members on AF I'm estimating that at least 1/3 are American citizens. If 1/3 of that 1/3 emailed their respective elected govt. officials that comes out to 22,222 people writting letting them know we don't support cutting benefits to our military personel. That's a big statement.


http://www.house.gov/
http://www.senate.gov/general/conta...enators_cfm.cfm
http://www.congress.org/congressorg/home/
http://www.house.gov/house/MemberWWW.html
http://www.visi.com/juan/congress/
http://www.webslingerz.com/jhoffman/congress-email.html
http://www.house.gov/writerep/

Some are repeat sites that lead to different pages on that site.

Damn skippy -- it'd be nice to actually use this here democratic process for something useful. I'd say a message along the lines of:

"I ACTUALLY support our troops, not just lip service for the TV cameras. Members of the House and Senate should take care of our veterans and active-duty service people, or We The People will remove you."