Honda have lost the Plot with the S2000

If I wanted a Miata on Steroids I would have bought one!
I love the edgy high rev 120Bhp/litre power of my 01 S 2000.
If you want torgue and a boulevard cruiser then get a 350Z or chrysler sebring!

We were told that the S 2000 will remain a limited production super car. Now they are offering the 2.2 litre 04 with girly head lights and oval pipes, weak looking wheels and wait for it.. More shoulder room!
all at discounted price (due to over supply).

The original designer of the S2000 must be cursing the bean counters at honda under his breath.

In short the original S2000 was to be a high tech sports car at the leading edge for enthousiasts, not weekend cruisers. We want the carpet coverd Transmission tunnel (like the true original British sports cars).and the minimalist interior. We want our sports car back we must have at least 9000 RPM! :nono:

Well, I agree in some way. But Honda tries to make money, cashiola, so it makes a more livable performance car so it appeals to a broader range of public.

I understand that. But Honda presented this car to us with great fanfare in 99 as a purist limited edition sports car. They also stated that they will be "Limiting" supply to the US to about 5000 cars per year. A lot of enthusiasts paid 10K or more over base in 2000 for the S2000 because they were told that this WILL be a limited production car.
But the accountants obviously stepped in when they saw the sales potential. The good thing is that the 01, 02 and specially the early 03 models will be sought after by people like me.

What are you complaining about? You want the car to be limited, yet you are complaining when they are changing the engine to a 2.2 w/ lower redline? When they make the changes to the new models, 2 liters will be very much more limited. I am glad that they are making the change even though I would rather have the f20c. The early years of the s2000 will sought after by purists like us.

The limited I was refereing to was the production numbers. Having said all, even the softy 04 is better than anything else in it's class!

That's what C&D said too [S2000 becoming soft now].

That's why it placed second to the Lotus Elise in the roadster competition.

That's what C&D said too [S2000 becoming soft now].

That's why it placed second to the Lotus Elise in the roadster competition.

I have just read it! well on the bright side the real S2ks will become classics while the suits in Honda keep massaging the the 04 into a fat little bunny. It also looks like they have killed the long awaited NSX replacement! We need new management in Honda's Product as well as PR dept. For example in The New York auto show they had the S2000 next to lawn mowers and little generators! Who decides that people will respect Honda brand more when they find out Honda also make lawn mowers!
I love the Honda brand and heritage and think they are the best of the Japanese. I would love to be let loose in the organisation for a week or two and shake things up a bit.

Hey, i was wondering about the s2000 hardtops. I here from my friends that the hardtops come with superchargers and i can't find that online anywhere, so i was wondering, is it true?

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Not true

Honda does not make Force inducted cars Period.
end of story

And that's why we like them. They make efficient engines that produce more HP per litre which also translates in better Gas mileage.

They make efficient engines that produce more HP per litre which also translates in better Gas mileage.

We are torque less though... :(

since i am not a honda enthusiast i will not fully understand some of your comments but..

the s2k is a poor car in my opinion because most 15second midsized cars with an aftermarket air filter and exhaust can show the s2k their taillights on any dragstrip. im not here talking shit but im trying to give you guys my point of view and a little of Honda's point of view.Honda is going full swing on the s2k just because they are like every other car company.. they arent making money. Through the grapevine i heard that Chrysler is pulling funds for Mitsubishi so they are also a dying company. Ever seen the 4th gen concept of the eclipse... pitiful. the first generation and the 2nd generation eclipse were and are awesome cars..

so the point of all this jabbering is dont get too pissed off about your favorite car turning "ghey" or "selling out" because it happens to all cars at some point.

im gonna go ahead and guess that all cars in 10 years from now are going to be mid sized turds with 2door/4door options.


ok done ranting now.. carry on :D

since i am not a honda enthusiast i will not fully understand some of your comments but..

the s2k is a poor car in my opinion because most 15second midsized cars with an aftermarket air filter and exhaust can show the s2k their taillights on any dragstrip. im not here talking shit but im trying to give you guys my point of view and a little of Honda's point of view.Honda is going full swing on the s2k just because they are like every other car company.. they arent making money. Through the grapevine i heard that Chrysler is pulling funds for Mitsubishi so they are also a dying company. Ever seen the 4th gen concept of the eclipse... pitiful. the first generation and the 2nd generation eclipse were and are awesome cars..

so the point of all this jabbering is dont get too pissed off about your favorite car turning "ghey" or "selling out" because it happens to all cars at some point.

im gonna go ahead and guess that all cars in 10 years from now are going to be mid sized turds with 2door/4door options.


ok done ranting now.. carry on :Dignorance to the max in that post


the s2ks are actually selling well, but they read people and mag articles complaining of a lack of decent mid rang [pre vtec]...honda figured if they fixed this they'll get even more buyers than they are currently getting as it still revs high, makes same power now with a bit more torque.

a 15second car with exhuast and intake suddenly runs low 14s?! what are you smoking.....a hondata,intake,header,exhuast RSX-S with weight reduction will be hard set to show tail lights to an s2k and thats about the fastest 15s car you can get with mods besides anything F/I....

Mitsu is a huge company, even without chryslers money they aren't going anywheres for a long time...thier not even close to 'dieing'...and that crappy eclipse concept has the ability to make 400hp+, AWD, half electric and gas....and at a resonable price....thats a great leap forward for fast gas efficient sports cars....

that crappy eclipse concept has the ability to make 400hp+, AWD, half electric and gas....and at a resonable price....thats a great leap forward for fast gas efficient sports cars....


Thats a CONCEPT. Most of them dont come out in productions.

the first generation and the 2nd generation eclipse were and are awesome cars..





Yeh tell they blow up or get crank'd walk'd. ;)

Anyways so now the s2000 is a 2.2 ltr? Someone give me the specs on the new s2k. Last time i checked i thought they were producing the same power as the previous s2k? Anyways i think its a great car but moddin is hard! A supercharged s2k only shaved off 3 tenths of a second in a 1/4! Not worth it! I know its already tuned but knowing me if i ever get one, i'd want to modify it. So far s2k with mods hasn't impressed me at all. And I think what 96tsi was tryin to say is that modded civics can beat s2k anyday! I beat the shit out of one with my crx si ( b16a head with ITR shortblock). Anyways find me an s2k that runs atleast low 13s and what mods needed to make it happen. Fill me in!

Anyways so now the s2000 is a 2.2 ltr? Someone give me the specs on the new s2k. Last time i checked i thought they were producing the same power as the previous s2k? Anyways i think its a great car but moddin is hard! A supercharged s2k only shaved off 3 tenths of a second in a 1/4! Not worth it! I know its already tuned but knowing me if i ever get one, i'd want to modify it. So far s2k with mods hasn't impressed me at all. And I think what 96tsi was tryin to say is that modded civics can beat s2k anyday! I beat the shit out of one with my crx si ( b16a head with ITR shortblock). Anyways find me an s2k that runs atleast low 13s and what mods needed to make it happen. Fill me in!
LOLOLOL only 3 tenths of a second? wow....

so going from 195-205whp stock to 260-280whp in only a 2900lb car will only net 3 tenth faster times!? Most run high 12s or low 13s if they know how to somewhat launch an s2k....my friend has a black supercharged 330whp s2k, the thing rips, could run 12.5-6s with a good driver easily....

anyways dragging isnt the s2ks strong point, try beating one in a track or autoX with your crx, rofl

I swear to you! I read it somewhere that it only ran like 13.8 with a comptech supercharger!! I dont think he did anything else with the mod. I think it was one of the back issues on SCC mag. You fool dont be laughin when i'm tryin to find some answers. Whats wrong with a crx in an autocross? They're good autocross cars to you dick!

http://www.sportcompactcarweb.com/features/0108scc_comptech/index.html

Right THERE on the bottom sayin it only ran 13.8 with comptech supercharger!

I swear to you! I read it somewhere that it only ran like 13.8 with a comptech supercharger!! I dont think he did anything else with the mod. I think it was one of the back issues on SCC mag. You fool dont be laughin when i'm tryin to find some answers. Whats wrong with a crx in an autocross? They're good autocross cars to you dick!

sorry i was 'laughing', but it doesnt make any sense to me...100+whp over stock and only 3 tenths more, not logical or horrible driving, which is the case.

a crx isnt bad, i never said it was, just that an s2k has GREAT handling and you'll be hard pressed to keep up with one easily, especially supercharged, thier FAST my friend has one....definatly faster than 13.8 as my friends has whooped on stage1 srt4 and those are capable of 13.4s

Man its all good. I think the reason behind that is because the motor is already highly tuned. SO i dont think theres anymore room to do with that motor unless you complete break it down and rebuild it with aftermarket parts. I could be wrong though.

My friend already has a yellow one and yeh it handles really great! I think its the best handling honda/acura then comes the integra type r.

1. S2K's are stylish as hell.

2. They are more autocross cars as most roadsters were built to be.

3. From what I get out of it is that they are pretty much maxed out from the factory.(why? Because what Honda does it does very very well. This is coming from a VW driver)

4. Adding a little mid range power and lowering the redline isn't all that bad but the question is where does it stop? I hope at that b/c making a car to please most people destroys what it was intended for look at the MKIV GTI they turned into heavy pigs.

OK I think I said all I needed to say. The S2K is a bad ass vehicle.

wasnt this totally obvious to everyone prior to the S's release? this was debated so much once we got specs on the car. the engine is already wirey as it is, so y would u expect to get ridiculous numbers from an engine that isnt holding back and was designed at its max potential. thats exactly y it doenst respond well to mods. y u couldnt understand this until 5 years after its debut is a shock to me. be neways like most idiots here, ppl seem to think that every single car is built for a dragstrip (how ghey) the s2000 is just like the nsx, both do relatively poor for their power on a strip, but get it on a course and its a force to be reckoned with. competetively, cobras and vettes are their targets on a track and they have damn good records against them to back it up. *chuckles* "haha, he said drag strip. how very nooby of him" by your logic, a top fuel dragger could beat a s2000 down lombard street, i mean its got more hp right?................my point exactly think b4 u speak or do us a favor and keep stupid things to yourself. on another note, the revs were dropped simply because the increased displacement made it possible for the S to achieve the same power and performance with less rev which also gave it a broader power band and mid range torque. simply put, u get more of what u want quicker. this in no way, shape, or form hurt its performance. so basically ur upset about how ur tach "looks" when ur driving? how very "ricey" of u. instead of worrying about how ur car looks, u should be worrying about how it performs. u may as well trade it in and get a civic lx and put all the bodykits and spoilers u want on there, put all the "Type R" stickers u want on there, and put a Khm speedo and custom 12k rpm tach in ur dash so u can feel better

Okay first off, concept cars look nothing like the car that will go to production. 2. That car would cost 120,000 a piece if that is the way they are selling it. Mitsubishi is not going out of business anytime soon either.