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DragonofBC
06-30-2004, 06:43 AM
Over the next 3 weeks I'm planning on (finally) doing some mods to the Eclipse. I'm planning on these parts:

Greddy Type-S BOV
Greddy Intercooler Piping Kit
K&N FIPK

The problem is that I don't have any tools so I'm going to have to buy what I need. I want to do the work myself so I can learn more about the car. I figure a lot of people on the forum do their own work so if you can drop me some insight, it would be much appreciated. Also, how long do each of these jobs take (I realize the IC piping and the BOV are essentially one job)?

Also, it might sound like a stupid question but the FIPK is just the filter and adapter correct? In that case, I want to replace the intake pipe to the turbo. Can anyone offer suggestions on which one to use? I'm running the stock turbo so I was wondering what size pipe/what tools needed/any good links for how to replace it? Thanks a lot.

spyderturbo007
06-30-2004, 10:16 AM
The mods you have listed above are all really easy to do with normal hand tools. I would suggest going to a store like Sears and picking up one of the tool kits they sell. The one I bought contains everything you should need to do the above mentioned mods. It is 160 some pieces and it think I got it on sale for about $120. They are all guaranteed for life if you buy the craftsman brand. As far as links for install tips... go to www.vfaq.com

joemathews
06-30-2004, 10:53 AM
Yep buy a nice mechanic's tool set...you will use it your whole life! All of those mods are simple enough. You probablly wouldn't benefit much from having a hard intake pipe at this point yet! But, if you want to have it there for the future, go for it ;)

DragonofBC
06-30-2004, 05:42 PM
Thanks a lot. Its reassuring to know that its a pretty easy job.

Even if the intake doesn't make a difference at this point, I figure while I'm in there... What are some good ones to look at? I don't know offhand the size that I would need to get either. Thanks for you help.

JoeWagon
06-30-2004, 08:42 PM
The stock 2g turbo, T25, has a 2'' inlet. Dejon tool makes a good intake pipe, and you can make sure to get one for a 2g turbo and with recirculation pipe (make sure it has this). The pipe will make a big difference in combination with the filter.

Oh yeah I forgot about tools. Get some nice ones now that you will keep for a long time. Head over to a pawn shop and look for full sets of sockets/wrenches in standard and metric. The car will use mostly metric stuff. Box end wrenches with ratchets are really handy. Remember the brands that give you a lifetime warranty, not sure if you need a receipt or not :) Of course you will need some other tools, sets or not like a few sizes and kinds of screwdrivers, socket extentions, nut driver (screw driver with 1/4 socket end on it, good for going straight onto a bolt) etc...

DragonofBC
06-30-2004, 09:51 PM
What about a jack? I was reading a guide from RoadRaceEngineering and it said that I had to jack the car up (for their IC piping at least).

Thanks a lot JoeWagon for the advice on the Dejon pipe. I'm going to look into it.

JoeWagon
06-30-2004, 10:25 PM
Get a nice full size floor jack. Low profile would be nice, make sure it's something that fits under your bumper. The mini floor jacks are OK too but I prefer the one I have. Look into 2 jackstands (that start low) or a couple drive-onto ramps. They say not to be under a car supported by a jack, if the car is going to be up for a while I would agree.

metalhedskater
06-30-2004, 10:35 PM
well, if you plan to use it your whole life, and not plan to upgrade, i would just get a simple tool set (everything you will need) you can get a nice one at cosco for like $75 probaly less and very good quality tools. I got one similar to the ones i seen at cosco when i was 15 for $45 and those tools are like new! Just trying to help you save money! Money for more mods maybe???

metalhedskater
06-30-2004, 10:38 PM
dude this weekend im buying a nice jack kit for $30 at pepboys....i checked it out and everything and it doesnt look mickey mouse at all....supports 4,000 lbs. on the two stands, a jack, and a nice bench to rool under your car (dont know what theyre called)....good fucking deal!

kjewer1
07-01-2004, 04:13 AM
Those of you that have known me for some time might find this amusing, but here is my tool list. I went to walmart and picked up a set of offset metric box end wrenches, a set of regular stragith metric wrenches, 1/2" socket set and ratchet/extensions/breakerbar, and one of those red screwdrivers at autozone with 4 tips in it, where the whole shaft flips around. I pull motors and trannys with these tools, still to this day. LMFAO. :lol:

I now also have some cool tools of course, like full air tool setup, welder, parts washer, engine crane/lift and stands, etc. But I have a little red plastic tool box I keep in the car that has the best tools that everyone with a DSM should have on them. I should take a pic and make a parts list. There arent many things, maybe 20, all cheap. And if just one is missing, I'm a miserable bastard :D

You would be surprised what you can do with walmart tools... :)

EclipseRST
07-01-2004, 05:40 AM
thats fuckin funny!!! i did it the same way... but mine were all Benchtop tools from K-Mart cause that was closer than the 30 min drive to walmart! lol but i now switched to all snap-on and craftsman and dont really use the other tools anymore!

EVOclipse
07-01-2004, 04:35 PM
i got a sweet little hydrolic floor jack for like 20$ at advanced discount auto, its strong enough to lift any part/end of the car and is way faster and easier than the crank/sissor whatever jacks.

1stGenRocks
07-01-2004, 08:03 PM
craftsman all the way. you can pulls tools from the bottom of a river and as long as you can read craftsman on them you can take them in and get new ones :evillol: i dont get why people buy snap on stuff. it cost way more and you can take craftman stuff back if it breaks so why bother

JoeWagon
07-01-2004, 08:41 PM
I would have thought you had the 6,000 part arsenal found at Sears for like $4,000. I forgot breaker bar, those are especially handy. The only tool I need right now is A LIFT. Maybe some air tools like a cutoff saw and impact wrench...

Again if you want to get the lifetime warranty tools, head to a pawn shop. Love those ratchet box end wrenches!

BoostedSpyder
07-01-2004, 08:56 PM
I should take a pic and make a parts list. There arent many things, maybe 20, all cheap. And if just one is missing, I'm a miserable bastard :D

that is a great idea, a 'must have DSM tool list' !!


i got a mechanic's set on sale at Target for like $9.99. it came with some more auto-oriented tools like a light tester, tire gauge. it has metric and SAE 1/4 and 1/2 inch ratchet sets, wrenches, allen wrenches, and a variety of heads for the screwdriver [which is a bit too fat and stubby]. and a nice plastic case ;)

the only other things i have ever needed:

longer extension screw driver, or more-over, a thinner and longer screwdriver.

regular pliers

various zip-ties [different cool colors ;)]

vaccum hoses [a kit i got off ebay for like 5 bucks :) ]

vise grip pliers

hack saw

JB weld


that is all i can really come up with that was 'unique' and might help out a noober... :)

EclipseRST
07-02-2004, 05:24 AM
i dont get why people buy snap on stuff. it cost way more and you can take craftman stuff back if it breaks so why bother

cause snap on has a lifetime warrenty just like craftsman... although in my tests i have found snap on to be a lot stronger/tougher when in use! i have had craftsman shit break on small stuff compared to the same tool in snap on not breaking on bigger stuff... i would rather have an expensive tool that i can rely on and not have to worry about it breaking so i can get the job done, compared to a cheaper tool were i have to hope it wont break and then if it does i cant finish what i was workin on unless i go to sears and pick up a new one! which is bull shit cause it just wastes time!

slowgsowner
07-02-2004, 06:23 AM
Damn you guys make me feel spoiled. I have a tool program at work through Husky and mac, this makes it so where I get like a 30% discount off every thing they carry, and if its a hand tool or something required in my tool box at work my company pays for it and I own it after a year. need less to say this saves me boocoo for the high dollar items in my shop. ie welder, lift(picked up at a used tire shop that went out of bidness for 500.), drill press, etc. I recently got another large husky box (large is an understatment) for my 5th anniversary with my company....I love free shit. I stole a forklift motor from work and some servo's off the overhead crane and made it into a remote controlled box. :evillol: :lol: :lol: its so friggin awesome to see everybodies faces at work when i take it for a spin. they think my box is possesed :lol: but seriously I started collecting all mine when I was 15 and haven't stopped yet. and a word of advise, DON'T let any one touch your tools but yourself. I thought my friends were capable of putting shit back where it belong...you know, like adults. it took FOREVER to get it organized. :banghead: good luck on your set, you should look at a box too, your gonna need it once you get your sockets, wrenches, and screwdrivers

DragonofBC
07-02-2004, 06:39 AM
A question: Is there only one Greddy Type-S BOV or are they car specific? I've search the DSM sites and the cheapest I've found is $190 pre-shipping but E-bay has multiple "Universal" Greddy Type-S's for thed $160's and even as low as $140's. I'm always leary of E-bay but they say that they are new. Thanks for the input.

kjewer1
07-02-2004, 08:29 AM
You will get more responses to your BOV question, if you post it in a thread about BOVs. People coming to this thread are expecting to talk about tools :D


I cant believe I forgot the ratcheting box ends... My brother (a Mitus mechanic, with every tool known to man) bought me a set for my birthday last year. I cant remember how I got by without them. Doing the rear tranny mount on a 2g practically REQUIRES a 17mm ratcheting box end... :D

EclipseRST
07-02-2004, 04:25 PM
I cant believe I forgot the ratcheting box ends... My brother (a Mitus mechanic, with every tool known to man) bought me a set for my birthday last year. I cant remember how I got by without them. Doing the rear tranny mount on a 2g practically REQUIRES a 17mm ratcheting box end... :D

yep they are so nice... as a matter of fact i just used them to put my tranny back in! lol fuckin motor started knocking... connecting rod bearing on the #3 cylinder was gone so i pulled the whole motor and put in my stock spare 6 bolt... that will be in there until i find some time to get the crank turned, finishing up putting the motor today so i can have a fuckin car again! :banghead:

BoostedSpyder
07-02-2004, 07:25 PM
EclipseRST][/b]ya, i had a bad lifter, so i went into the backyard and eenie-meenie-minie-moe'd a motor from the 4 or 5 o got back there... i still can't figure out why i got 2 cars that are rearely drivable

LMAO

EclipseRST
07-02-2004, 09:34 PM
:rofl: i got no time to work on them!


that quote its pretty fuckin good tho! i am still laughing!

joemathews
07-02-2004, 10:21 PM
I just bought a Craftsman mechanic's tool set, all 6 sided sockets, 145-piece. I wouldn't recommend getting one of the ones with screwdrivers because they count each extension for the screwdriver as an additional piece...

Also, I decided to get the set with all 6 point instead of 12 point sockets because I was a little worried about stripping big bolts (only the larger sockets were 12 point, the 10 and 12 mm and small sizes were all 6 point). Anyone have trouble with the 12 point sockets? If there isn't a real point to paying extra for the 6 point ones I'll exchange my set, b/c the 6 point are more expensive!

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