Engine Swap?
Mizery
06-29-2004, 08:05 PM
So, since no one seems to be able to add a supercharger or turbo (or find other means to get significant more power out of the engine), what is the feasibilty of putting a whole new engine in the car? I would think sticking with a Ford or Lincoln engine for compatibility would be best, but I don't know much about the fine workings of an engine (I just want a car with balls, hehe). Would there be enough room in the engine compartment for different engine? I also understand it's fairly complex to change engines in a new car because of all the electronics and sensors. Is there any good solution to work around this - would a good mechanic know how to make everything work correctly?
I would like to hear some thoughts on this, if it's possible, or if it would be very difficult/almost impossible. I'm not thinking about doing this seriously right now, but perhaps in several years if I hang on to this car that long. I love the way my car looks, and if I decide to keep it for many years, I would like to be able to turn it into a real beast. (Or should I just buy a GTO?)
I would like to hear some thoughts on this, if it's possible, or if it would be very difficult/almost impossible. I'm not thinking about doing this seriously right now, but perhaps in several years if I hang on to this car that long. I love the way my car looks, and if I decide to keep it for many years, I would like to be able to turn it into a real beast. (Or should I just buy a GTO?)
Quik_LS
06-29-2004, 11:17 PM
damn near impossible. check out the one lap of america car -> http://www.llsoc.com/V2R1/OLOA/default.asp
I was one of the lucky few with their name on the sponsor decal.
2004 Cannonball - One Lap of America Vehicle Modifications
Vehicle
* Model: 2004 Lincoln LS
* Seats: SPARCO driver racing seat with 5 pt seating harness
Powertrain
* Specification: 2004 Roush 4.6L 2V Stage 3
* Supercharger: Roush M-90 with air to liquid intercooler at 10 psi of boost
* Headers: Ford Motor-Sport stainless steel
* Horsepower / Torque: 430 Hp @ 5250 rpm / 430 lb-ft @ 3000 rpm (Est.)
Transmission
* Model: 4R75W 4spd automatic
* Calibration: Unique transmission calibration for reduced shift times
* Temperature Monitoring: Unique algorithm to limit power/torque to prevent overheating
Exhaust
* Mufflers / Cats: Removed for increased flow
* H-Pipe: Replaced with X-Pipe to optimize pressure scavenging
* Sizing: Replaced cold-side with 2.5" stainless tubing
* Tip: Polished S197 Mustang tip
Aerodynamics
* Front / Rear: Aero kickers for high speed / crosswind stability
* Underbelly: Front undercarriage shield for reduction of front axle lift
* Deck-lid: 5-way adjustable rear deck-lid spoiler
Chassis
Wheels / Tires
* Front: Forged BBS 18 x 9 – P275/35/18 (Michelin Pilot Sport2)
* Rear: Forged BBS 18 x 9 – P275/35/18 (Michelin Pilot Sport2)
Rear Differential
* Differential: TORSEN limited slip with 3.58 ratio
* Half Shafts: 2002 T-bird (40mm)
Springs / Shocks / Stabar / Toe-link
* F/R Spring Rates: 61 / 63 N/mm
* F/R Stabar: 31.5mm Grippy / 21mm Solid
* F/R Shocks: LEDA 24-way adjustable dampers with adjustable spring perch
* Rear toe-link: Replaced compliant toe-link with solid link
Brakes
* Front: 330 mm – Cobra Brembo rotors with unique friction material
* Rear: Unique friction material
* F/R lines: Stainless / braided lines
* Ducts: Front brake cooling ducts
Ride Heights
* Front: Lowered 25 mm
* Rear: Lowered 20 mm
Alignment
* Front: Increased Camber to –1.5 deg
* Rear: Increased Camber to –1.3 deg
but the engine didn't communicate with the car very well - some guages didn't work, ..etc. awesome possiblities......
I was one of the lucky few with their name on the sponsor decal.
2004 Cannonball - One Lap of America Vehicle Modifications
Vehicle
* Model: 2004 Lincoln LS
* Seats: SPARCO driver racing seat with 5 pt seating harness
Powertrain
* Specification: 2004 Roush 4.6L 2V Stage 3
* Supercharger: Roush M-90 with air to liquid intercooler at 10 psi of boost
* Headers: Ford Motor-Sport stainless steel
* Horsepower / Torque: 430 Hp @ 5250 rpm / 430 lb-ft @ 3000 rpm (Est.)
Transmission
* Model: 4R75W 4spd automatic
* Calibration: Unique transmission calibration for reduced shift times
* Temperature Monitoring: Unique algorithm to limit power/torque to prevent overheating
Exhaust
* Mufflers / Cats: Removed for increased flow
* H-Pipe: Replaced with X-Pipe to optimize pressure scavenging
* Sizing: Replaced cold-side with 2.5" stainless tubing
* Tip: Polished S197 Mustang tip
Aerodynamics
* Front / Rear: Aero kickers for high speed / crosswind stability
* Underbelly: Front undercarriage shield for reduction of front axle lift
* Deck-lid: 5-way adjustable rear deck-lid spoiler
Chassis
Wheels / Tires
* Front: Forged BBS 18 x 9 – P275/35/18 (Michelin Pilot Sport2)
* Rear: Forged BBS 18 x 9 – P275/35/18 (Michelin Pilot Sport2)
Rear Differential
* Differential: TORSEN limited slip with 3.58 ratio
* Half Shafts: 2002 T-bird (40mm)
Springs / Shocks / Stabar / Toe-link
* F/R Spring Rates: 61 / 63 N/mm
* F/R Stabar: 31.5mm Grippy / 21mm Solid
* F/R Shocks: LEDA 24-way adjustable dampers with adjustable spring perch
* Rear toe-link: Replaced compliant toe-link with solid link
Brakes
* Front: 330 mm – Cobra Brembo rotors with unique friction material
* Rear: Unique friction material
* F/R lines: Stainless / braided lines
* Ducts: Front brake cooling ducts
Ride Heights
* Front: Lowered 25 mm
* Rear: Lowered 20 mm
Alignment
* Front: Increased Camber to –1.5 deg
* Rear: Increased Camber to –1.3 deg
but the engine didn't communicate with the car very well - some guages didn't work, ..etc. awesome possiblities......
CGGorman
06-30-2004, 09:13 AM
I got my name on it, too. I got a chance to talk to the builders a couple times. It actually used two computers. One computer from a Mustang, I believe, to control the powertrain and the regular LS computer to control everything else (windows, locks, climate control, radio, etc.). If I'm not mistaken, Chet (one of the builders/drivers) said the two systems didn't talk at all. I'm thinking they lost ABS and traction control systems, as well. Not 100% on that, though. I KNOW they lost the speedo and the tach was only barely functional. It always read a couple hundred RPM off, but since it was consistently wrong, they could use it.
Mizery
06-30-2004, 05:31 PM
Yeah, that's about what I figured. Too bad there are so many complications, 430HP would be pretty nice. I have the 2001 LS, so mine only puts out 250HP according to the specs. Although the newer ones are a bit more powerful, it's still a shame to see manufacturers put weak V8's in cars these days. My friend has a Maxima with a V6 and more power than my car. It's pretty sad when some manufacturers can get more power out of a 6 cylinder than Ford and Chevy get from a V8. I don't have anything against foreign cars, I just didn't care for the looks of any - I love the way the LS looks. I just wish Lincoln would give it an engine to match the looks. I guess next time, I'll just have to buy a sports car, or at least something that can be modded.
Thanks for the info, anyway.
Thanks for the info, anyway.
CGGorman
07-01-2004, 09:54 AM
You can get that '01 up to about 280 with intake and exhaust mods. Figure a grand for the whole lot. I did it. Haven't looked back. Lovin' it!
Mizery
07-06-2004, 05:31 PM
Yeah, it's a shame I have to spend money to get it up to the level the new LS's are at. And, I'd rather see numbers over 300HP from modifications. Oh well, it's still a great looking car.
SpeedyV6
07-10-2004, 07:21 PM
Just curious, what was the first year for the 280- hp LS?
Mizery
07-11-2004, 12:20 AM
I think it's 2003 that the engines were upped to 280HP. You can look up specs on the different years, though to see when the power changed.
Quik_LS
07-11-2004, 09:27 AM
correct 03 was the introduction of the 280 engine w/VVT.
moe2011
03-10-2011, 03:32 PM
Whew...old posts but I need to post this, I've got 2 2000 Lincoln LS's, bought used and even though I know there are faster cars taking off, I havn't found more than 1 or 2 that can take them on. They feel like they already have a turbo in them. Didn't know this guy in a souped up later model firebird was going to show off his "car" after making a turn, but I know he wouldn't have been able to pass me if I knew he was going to stomp on his pedal. Wish I could put that engine and tranny in one of my other cars, like a 93 300ZX 2+2 I bought to convert to a TT300Z. Love my LS's...
34Ford
03-15-2011, 07:08 AM
I dont know about a complete swap but there is super chargers being put on LS engines over on the lincolnvscadillac forums.
Could be some info over on the Jag forums as well.
Could be some info over on the Jag forums as well.
danielsatur
03-16-2011, 02:16 PM
How about a car swap for a Jaguar S type R Supercharged 4.2L V8 @ 400hp!
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