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Engine Swap?


Mizery
06-29-2004, 08:05 PM
So, since no one seems to be able to add a supercharger or turbo (or find other means to get significant more power out of the engine), what is the feasibilty of putting a whole new engine in the car? I would think sticking with a Ford or Lincoln engine for compatibility would be best, but I don't know much about the fine workings of an engine (I just want a car with balls, hehe). Would there be enough room in the engine compartment for different engine? I also understand it's fairly complex to change engines in a new car because of all the electronics and sensors. Is there any good solution to work around this - would a good mechanic know how to make everything work correctly?

I would like to hear some thoughts on this, if it's possible, or if it would be very difficult/almost impossible. I'm not thinking about doing this seriously right now, but perhaps in several years if I hang on to this car that long. I love the way my car looks, and if I decide to keep it for many years, I would like to be able to turn it into a real beast. (Or should I just buy a GTO?)

Quik_LS
06-29-2004, 11:17 PM
damn near impossible. check out the one lap of america car -> http://www.llsoc.com/V2R1/OLOA/default.asp

I was one of the lucky few with their name on the sponsor decal.

2004 Cannonball - One Lap of America Vehicle Modifications

Vehicle
* Model: 2004 Lincoln LS
* Seats: SPARCO driver racing seat with 5 pt seating harness

Powertrain
* Specification: 2004 Roush 4.6L 2V Stage 3
* Supercharger: Roush M-90 with air to liquid intercooler at 10 psi of boost
* Headers: Ford Motor-Sport stainless steel
* Horsepower / Torque: 430 Hp @ 5250 rpm / 430 lb-ft @ 3000 rpm (Est.)

Transmission
* Model: 4R75W 4spd automatic
* Calibration: Unique transmission calibration for reduced shift times
* Temperature Monitoring: Unique algorithm to limit power/torque to prevent overheating

Exhaust
* Mufflers / Cats: Removed for increased flow
* H-Pipe: Replaced with X-Pipe to optimize pressure scavenging
* Sizing: Replaced cold-side with 2.5" stainless tubing
* Tip: Polished S197 Mustang tip

Aerodynamics
* Front / Rear: Aero kickers for high speed / crosswind stability
* Underbelly: Front undercarriage shield for reduction of front axle lift
* Deck-lid: 5-way adjustable rear deck-lid spoiler

Chassis
Wheels / Tires
* Front: Forged BBS 18 x 9 – P275/35/18 (Michelin Pilot Sport2)
* Rear: Forged BBS 18 x 9 – P275/35/18 (Michelin Pilot Sport2)

Rear Differential
* Differential: TORSEN limited slip with 3.58 ratio
* Half Shafts: 2002 T-bird (40mm)

Springs / Shocks / Stabar / Toe-link
* F/R Spring Rates: 61 / 63 N/mm
* F/R Stabar: 31.5mm Grippy / 21mm Solid
* F/R Shocks: LEDA 24-way adjustable dampers with adjustable spring perch
* Rear toe-link: Replaced compliant toe-link with solid link

Brakes
* Front: 330 mm – Cobra Brembo rotors with unique friction material
* Rear: Unique friction material
* F/R lines: Stainless / braided lines
* Ducts: Front brake cooling ducts

Ride Heights
* Front: Lowered 25 mm
* Rear: Lowered 20 mm

Alignment
* Front: Increased Camber to –1.5 deg
* Rear: Increased Camber to –1.3 deg

but the engine didn't communicate with the car very well - some guages didn't work, ..etc. awesome possiblities......

CGGorman
06-30-2004, 09:13 AM
I got my name on it, too. I got a chance to talk to the builders a couple times. It actually used two computers. One computer from a Mustang, I believe, to control the powertrain and the regular LS computer to control everything else (windows, locks, climate control, radio, etc.). If I'm not mistaken, Chet (one of the builders/drivers) said the two systems didn't talk at all. I'm thinking they lost ABS and traction control systems, as well. Not 100% on that, though. I KNOW they lost the speedo and the tach was only barely functional. It always read a couple hundred RPM off, but since it was consistently wrong, they could use it.

Mizery
06-30-2004, 05:31 PM
Yeah, that's about what I figured. Too bad there are so many complications, 430HP would be pretty nice. I have the 2001 LS, so mine only puts out 250HP according to the specs. Although the newer ones are a bit more powerful, it's still a shame to see manufacturers put weak V8's in cars these days. My friend has a Maxima with a V6 and more power than my car. It's pretty sad when some manufacturers can get more power out of a 6 cylinder than Ford and Chevy get from a V8. I don't have anything against foreign cars, I just didn't care for the looks of any - I love the way the LS looks. I just wish Lincoln would give it an engine to match the looks. I guess next time, I'll just have to buy a sports car, or at least something that can be modded.

Thanks for the info, anyway.

CGGorman
07-01-2004, 09:54 AM
You can get that '01 up to about 280 with intake and exhaust mods. Figure a grand for the whole lot. I did it. Haven't looked back. Lovin' it!

Mizery
07-06-2004, 05:31 PM
Yeah, it's a shame I have to spend money to get it up to the level the new LS's are at. And, I'd rather see numbers over 300HP from modifications. Oh well, it's still a great looking car.

SpeedyV6
07-10-2004, 07:21 PM
Just curious, what was the first year for the 280- hp LS?

Mizery
07-11-2004, 12:20 AM
I think it's 2003 that the engines were upped to 280HP. You can look up specs on the different years, though to see when the power changed.

Quik_LS
07-11-2004, 09:27 AM
correct 03 was the introduction of the 280 engine w/VVT.

moe2011
03-10-2011, 03:32 PM
Whew...old posts but I need to post this, I've got 2 2000 Lincoln LS's, bought used and even though I know there are faster cars taking off, I havn't found more than 1 or 2 that can take them on. They feel like they already have a turbo in them. Didn't know this guy in a souped up later model firebird was going to show off his "car" after making a turn, but I know he wouldn't have been able to pass me if I knew he was going to stomp on his pedal. Wish I could put that engine and tranny in one of my other cars, like a 93 300ZX 2+2 I bought to convert to a TT300Z. Love my LS's...

34Ford
03-15-2011, 07:08 AM
I dont know about a complete swap but there is super chargers being put on LS engines over on the lincolnvscadillac forums.

Could be some info over on the Jag forums as well.

danielsatur
03-16-2011, 02:16 PM
How about a car swap for a Jaguar S type R Supercharged 4.2L V8 @ 400hp!

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