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Fahrenheit 9/11: Movie Review


crxlvr
06-28-2004, 09:21 AM
This documentary film by Michael Moore, is a gritty, in-depth look at the Bush administration, and their links to Al-qeda and the Taliban. The film digs deep into the lies and cover-ups of the president, and how he is failing us as a country. The film brings up very interesting facts about 9/11, the war in Iraq, and the very clear lies brought out by, not only bush, but Powell, Rice, Gephardt, and others.


a very good film with alot of great facts and info to really get you thinking. I highly recommend this film to all, and hope that you see it, damn near got a standing ovation when the film ended at my theater.

A 4 star Documentary, but i cant give the 4 star review as their really is no acting, story, or script to warrant the 4 stars. so...

3-1/2 stars out of 4. Rated R for strong violence, language, and scenes of gore.
approx. 2hrs 5mins.



-Scott

Phact
06-28-2004, 09:43 AM
gosh i want to see this but I'm a teen i'd rather spend my money wiseley, you should just type out the movie for me ;) lmao nahh well thanks. I've heard some other things about the movie, bias as hell as the list goes on. check my website, grand opening

TheSilentChamber
06-28-2004, 09:43 AM
I would like to see it, but its not playing at any theaters around where I live.

Shaguar47
06-28-2004, 10:30 AM
Really good documentary. But I do think though that it streches the truth just a little too much.

91civicDXdude
06-28-2004, 03:11 PM
Really good documentary. But I do think though that it streches the truth just a little too much.

Does it? Or is it maybe the mass media that stretches the truth?

pauls81sc
06-28-2004, 04:30 PM
Michael Moore's movie is nothing more than left-wing political propaganda. I wouldn't watch it IF YOU PAID ME. I'm sure its full of half truths and global generalizations. How could Moore possibly understand the inner workings of the President and his advisors when he does not have access to all the facts. This guy is Johnnie Cochran for the masses.

CivicSpoon
06-28-2004, 04:41 PM
I say watch the movie and form your own opinion on it. The movie is ment to make you think about what really is (or could be) going on with our government. Don't believe everything you read or see; whether it be in this movie, the media or from governemt officials; take it all with a grain of salt. Then come up with your own opinion, just don't be a public sheep...

BLU CIVIC
06-28-2004, 05:23 PM
lies, cover-ups deception...sounds like any government to me :lol:

Shaguar47
06-28-2004, 05:29 PM
I say watch the movie and form your own opinion on it. The movie is ment to make you think about what really is (or could be) going on with our government. Don't believe everything you read or see; whether it be in this movie, the media or from governemt officials; take it all with a grain of salt. Then come up with your own opinion, just don't be a public sheep...

That's exactly what I mean to say!

Ace$nyper
06-28-2004, 06:30 PM
Michael Moore's movie is nothing more than left-wing political propaganda. I wouldn't watch it IF YOU PAID ME. I'm sure its full of half truths and global generalizations. How could Moore possibly understand the inner workings of the President and his advisors when he does not have access to all the facts. This guy is Johnnie Cochran for the masses.
least cochran weighted 300lbs less and dresses well. Moore looks like your typical child porn dealer waiting at walmart for lost little boys.

He bitches cause his life sucks and trys to make the whole world feel sorry for him and it doesn't work for me.

althought though all his lies and fact twisting i must say i heard it was set up well.

turbcivic
06-28-2004, 06:34 PM
i would not give that asshole one cent of my money to watch anti-bush proganda. I think the movie to bull and i have no desire to watch it. my $.02.

Vote Bush :biggrin:

susan94civic
06-28-2004, 06:40 PM
Michael Moore is my hero :lol:

turbcivic
06-28-2004, 07:01 PM
Michael Moore is my hero :lol:

is he still now?

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=39678
Americans currently flocking to see Michael Moore's movie "Farenheit 9/11" might be surprised to learn how little respect the Democratic Party's leading propaganda-meister has for them.

''They are possibly the dumbest people on the planet," Moore told Britain's Mirror newspaper recently, referring to his fellow citizens as a whole.

And that's not all Moore had to say about his brother Yanks across the pond. ''We Americans suffer from an enforced ignorance. We don't know about anything that's happening outside our country. Our stupidity is embarrassing.''

Turns out, when the Democratic Party's all-but-official filmmaker is speaking at home, he has nice things to say about at least some of his fellow citizens. But according to New York Times columnist David Brooks, when Moore travels abroad it's not just the Bush administration he trashes - but the American people en-masse.

Here's a few more bon mots from the Kerry campaign's leading celluloid supporter, as cited by Mr. Brooks on Saturday:

''That's why we're smiling all the time,'' Moore told a rapturous throng in Munich. ''You can see us coming down the street. You know, 'Hey! Hi! How's it going?' We've got that big [expletive] grin on our face all the time because our brains aren't loaded down.''

To a crowd in Cambridge, Moore intoned: ''You're stuck with being connected to this country of mine, which is known for bringing sadness and misery to places around the globe.''

Here's Moore's reaction to the 9/11 attacks, offered while the rubble at Ground Zero was still smoldering: ''We, the United States of America, are culpable in committing so many acts of terror and bloodshed that we had better get a clue about the culture of violence in which we have been active participants.''

As for the terrorists currently killing American soldiers in Iraq, Moore compares them to Revolutionary war heroes who fought off British oppression:

''The Iraqis who have risen up against the occupation are not 'insurgents' or 'terrorists' or 'The Enemy.' They are the REVOLUTION, the Minutemen, and their numbers will grow -- and they will win.''

Ace$nyper
06-28-2004, 07:08 PM
let me see that fat shit i dare him to say that to my face
hes more then welcome to get the fuck outta the US if he hates it so much.
In fact i'll pay all 6 of the tickets that White star jones look alike needs for his ass.

CivicSpoon
06-28-2004, 07:10 PM
Like i said before you can't believe everything you read. People get misquoted and or have their comments taken out of context. Expecailly since he's NOT a democrat he's in the independant party.

Killa_CRX
06-28-2004, 07:11 PM
I'm not going to see it... I don't like Michael Moore... and I did and will vote Bush... but I can just picture it in my head.

Opening credits start to roll... Picture of John Kerry's face appears in the bottom corner of the screen.... voice plays "Hello, I'm John Kerry, and I approved this messege."
It sounds like one big John Kerry commercial to me.
But eh... who cares.

I'm with Ace$nyper on this one.

mellowboy
06-28-2004, 09:28 PM
I dont need to watch a movie about Bush bein a lier. I already knew that hes a liar from the day he took office ;)

90civicracer
06-28-2004, 09:50 PM
I won't be able to vote in a presidential election until I'm 21. I turn 18 years old like 3 months after the election this year. The movie isn't playing anywhere near me so I can't see it unless I wanna drive 2 hours.

emerge
06-28-2004, 10:09 PM
is he still now?

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=39678
''We Americans suffer from an enforced ignorance. We don't know about anything that's happening outside our country. Our stupidity is embarrassing.''


You're misinterpreting his message. Think about how much the average person knows about the rest of the world. Most people can't name the leader of ANY other country (and don't go posting names, I don't care what YOU know or how much you can Google in 5 minutes.) The point is, generally Americans ARE ignorant. He's not saying you're stupid or anything. He's saying American society has basically grown to accept knowing nothing of our neighbors. Better yet, not knowing anything that doesn't concern ourselves.

::steps off soapbox::

"Take it with a grain of salt" - most intelligent post in this discussion yet. It's not for everyone...Some people will like it, some won't. It's political.....DUH.

P.S. I am eagerly awaiting to see this movie, but it isn't showing in my area. I'll post my review if I ever get to see it.

1PhatCX
06-28-2004, 11:47 PM
i dunno, we watched Moores movie (bowling for columbine) in our media studies class and a good point was made there, that media constructs reality, it doesnt reflect it, and if u dont get it, it pretty much means that what u see on the news, read in the paper, magazines etc etc... all are creating their own reality and only tell part truth, there not gonna come right out and say bush is a liar and tell u the truth about that, there gonna make their own reality and say like, bush did this and that and he said he was going to and what-not, i feel Moores view on things are pretty good, i liked what he did with Bowling For Columbine and if I had the money i'd go see his new movie..

just My :2cents:




wow... just realized that i actually learned something from school and applied it to everyday living lol

b16 crx kid
06-29-2004, 01:45 AM
Hes fat and dumb. And i will never give the fatty my money. I am voting for Bush.

91civicDXdude
06-29-2004, 08:50 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by turbcivic
is he still now?

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/a...RTICLE_ID=39678
''We Americans suffer from an enforced ignorance. We don't know about anything that's happening outside our country. Our stupidity is embarrassing.''

yep, sounds like americans to me. Bush is a crook, but as long as you dont cheat on your wife, you can do whatever you want as president and get away with it.

Calling michael moore fat and dumb proves his points and the points of others who think like him. People tend to resort to name calling when they realize that their point is moot.

Ace$nyper
06-29-2004, 10:13 AM
yep, sounds like americans to me. Bush is a crook, but as long as you dont cheat on your wife, you can do whatever you want as president and get away with it.

Calling michael moore fat and dumb proves his points and the points of others who think like him. People tend to resort to name calling when they realize that their point is moot.
or they just have extra hate in them. There are many legit reasons to hate Moore him being a fat childmolester lookalike is just another.

Maybe with all his money he'll fight mickyDs cutting the supersize then he will prove hes worth the air he breathes.

91civicDXdude
06-29-2004, 10:32 AM
If you have hate in your heart, let it out!

the only way to prove you are a good american is by hating someone becuase of their appearance!

just becuase you disagree with his point of view doesnt mean that you have to reduce yourself to such an idiotic level as to "point fingers" and resort to name calling.

As i said before, its when all knowledge and/or knowledgable thought is gone that the defeated resort to name calling.

Just make sure you show how much of a redneck idiot you are by maybe putting "BEHEAD ARABS!" or "NUKE THE PLANET!!" in your signature, so there is no doubt.

Ace$nyper
06-29-2004, 10:57 AM
If you have hate in your heart, let it out!

the only way to prove you are a good american is by hating someone becuase of their appearance!

just becuase you disagree with his point of view doesnt mean that you have to reduce yourself to such an idiotic level as to "point fingers" and resort to name calling.

As i said before, its when all knowledge and/or knowledgable thought is gone that the defeated resort to name calling.

Just make sure you show how much of a redneck idiot you are by maybe putting "BEHEAD ARABS!" or "NUKE THE PLANET!!" in your signature, so there is no doubt.
your right we shouldn't have our first amendment the govement should watch over each and every post.

Free speech doesn't protect the speech you like it protects the speech you hate.

Moores got every right to say the stuff he does as do I to say hes a fuckwit.

Nuke the planet hmm that might find its way into my sig.

turbcivic
06-29-2004, 04:14 PM
As for the terrorists currently killing American soldiers in Iraq, Moore compares them to Revolutionary war heroes who fought off British oppression:

''The Iraqis who have risen up against the occupation are not 'insurgents' or 'terrorists' or 'The Enemy.' They are the REVOLUTION, the Minutemen, and their numbers will grow -- and they will win.''


This is what pissed my off to begin with. With some of my friends fighting over there, how do you think i feel when i read this.

emerge-i know that americans are ignnorant but rmeber, iggnorance is bliss. Most ameicans are happy with half of the truth, but some look for more beyond what they see on cnn.

91civicdude-if that redneck comment was toward me, i got some things i could call but won't show up on the forum. Hell ya, i am a southern confederte flag waving, beer drink, tobbacco chewin' good ole boy. I am not racist but i do feel that making some of the middle east into a new parking lot would be a good idea. For me being an idiot, i be southern but i am in no ways an idiot. Much of my family has served in the counrtys armed forces with me looking at doing so too. So for you :nono: :flipa:

crxlvr
06-29-2004, 04:19 PM
im glad to see this movie is stirring contreversy, but for those who havent seen it, and realize the information he has uncovered, is just plain stupid to say that he's a child molester, and shouldnt be taken seriously. Sure some of the facts he has may not be real, but the video and images and documents he have are, and the bush adminstration cant fight that, they said one thing, then lie about it further down the line.

Ace$nyper
06-29-2004, 04:25 PM
im glad to see this movie is stirring contreversy, but for those who havent seen it, and realize the information he has uncovered, is just plain stupid to say that he's a child molester, and shouldnt be taken seriously. Sure some of the facts he has may not be real, but the video and images and documents he have are, and the bush adminstration cant fight that, they said one thing, then lie about it further down the line.
ahhh a simple review turned into this aren't politics fun?

and face it he looks like a chlid molester i never said he was one just looks like hes the kinda guy who wants to take some little boy to his 84 GMC van to play the no tell touching game.

CivicSpoon
06-29-2004, 04:36 PM
... and the bush adminstration cant fight that, they said one thing, then lie about it further down the line.
I was watching the Daily Show last week and they had an interview with Chaney (sp) where he stated that he never said that bin ladin had met with people from Sadams (sp) governement, and then they showed another clip from a different interview with him stating that the meeting took place (giving the exact city and month it took place). Not that it has to do with this discussion as a whole, but it was funny how they presented the 2 interviews; completely caught him in a lie.

And for turbcivic, for ACTUALLY putting that in your signature you should be banned and better yet if I lived near you I'd beat the shit out of you; you ingnorant loser. Putting it in your signature just to spite someone doesn't give you justification for doing it. You clearly ARE an ignorant redneck for that; and i hope you die from alcohol poisoning, choke on your chew, and some non-caucasion hangs you from a tree with you confederate flag. I hope you do join the service and never come back so there is one less ignorant a$$hole in this country. (I'm not saying that everyone or anyone in the service is an a-hole, so let me make that clear as to not disrespect anyone else)

redturbo66
06-29-2004, 06:15 PM
How did a confederate flag come into this equation? That's stereotyping if I've ever heard it.

Ismyee
06-29-2004, 09:37 PM
Try Bein in the military not knowin what the hell is goin on with our country. I've got a wife and kid and have to try and figure out if i'm gonna be next to go to war. It might be BS it may not be. I have no clue but the fact that i'm doin what i do for everybody in america makes it worth wile to me. Wether it is Bush or Carey in the White house, theres gonna be people who don't agree. Sure i want to see the movie. I think it will be great. I would love to see politicians eat their words. Either way doesn't make bush a good or bad person. If i was him, i'd probably be out golfin as well!

johnb16a2
06-29-2004, 11:19 PM
I'm going to see the movie but I wasn't going to vote for Bush anyway for several reasons:

1. His administration is limiting free speech.
2. Breaking down the separation of church and state.
3. Crippling the stem cell research programs.
4. A terrible enviromental record.
5. We are now under tremendous national debt (again).
6. Our economy is not in great shape.
7. Although Saddam had to go, he was to hasty going to
war (no broad based international help).

The list goes on and on.....
:2cents:

Killa_CRX
06-30-2004, 01:52 AM
I'm going to see the movie but I wasn't going to vote for Bush anyway for several reasons:

1. His administration is limiting free speech.
2. Breaking down the separation of church and state.
3. Crippling the stem cell research programs.
4. A terrible enviromental record.
5. We are now under tremendous national debt (again).
6. Our economy is not in great shape.
7. Although Saddam had to go, he was to hasty going to
war (no broad based international help).

The list goes on and on.....
:2cents:

1. issues on free speech, and the limitations of such freedoms is completely challengable in a court of law (government is not ALL powerful)
2. Again, this is a situation that is not entirely controlled on a national level... such as with the ruling of homosexual marriages illegal... states and even cities have the right to make them legal.
3. I'm going to have to agree with you on this one because I believe more liberal controls on stem cell research could lead to some amazing cures (did you know that any cell in your body can be cloned from stem cells? including hair!) I say, let the scientist harvest away!
4. It's America... we've never really had a good one *points at California*
5 Again.. it's America... we have been constantly in debt from the very beginning of our short lived country. Each substantial president in the long run, does very little to change that fact.
6. Economy fell off due to 9/11... and it bounced back slowly due to all the war... but believe it or not it's actually on the rise again.
7. From a logistics stand point... Saddam didn't really have to go.. he could have stayed around killing his people until there were none left... to date, no 'weapons of mass distruction' have been found.. he was no real threat to anyone but his own. I don't agree with the fact that we went to war... but if you look at who's president, it's completely understandable that we did.

And the list goes on...

All in all, I do not personally believe that Bush has done too bad of a job as president... and as I said before, I'm going to vote him in for another term.

crxlvr
06-30-2004, 04:02 PM
clinton had an enormous surplus of funds when he left office, how did bush spend all this money already, something like 3 trillion dollars. and bush is the first president in decades to have his country lose jobs over the course of his presidency rather than supply new ones.

plus the man, is an idiot to boot, have you ever seen him give a speech?? i mean come on, he can hardly read, and this is who you want for our next president, wether Kerry is good or not, he has to be better than this guy.

90civicracer
07-02-2004, 03:26 AM
I just got back from seeing this movie (just opened yesterday, we live in a smaller city) and it was what I thought it would be. Afterwards a lot of people here clapped also. I thought it was an alright movie for me to watch, but honestly didn't have an affect on me...seeing that I can't even vote this election, just wanted to see what all the hype was about.

Killa_CRX
07-02-2004, 10:14 AM
Eh, I could argue politics all day long... because I do every day with my best friend already... so I'm just going to let this one drop and keep the subject off my points of view, and on my car.
Anyone who wants to continue arguing with me is welcome to PM me :iceslolan

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