Bush camp plays the 'Hitler' card.

Hitler becomes US campaign issue
11:57 AEST Sat Jun 26 2004


AFP - Adolph Hitler broke into the US presidential campaign with Democrats and Republicans trading charges over the use of the Nazi dictator's image in bitter attack ads.

The row broke out over a new television spot aired by President George W Bush's campaign that twice shows Hitler in a compendium of clips that brands White House challenger John Kerry and his Democratic allies a "coalition of the wide-eyed".

Kerry campaign spokesman Phil Singer issued a statement calling the images "remarkably insensitive" and "hateful," and adding, "The use of Adolph Hitler by any campaign, politician or party is simply wrong".

"They are trying to convey a comparison between Senator Kerry and the Democrats and Hitler," Singer said, demanding that the Bush camp immediately pull the ads and issue an apology.

"The fact that George Bush thinks it's appropriate to use images of Adolph Hitler in his campaign raises serious questions about his fitness to spend another four years in the White House," the spokesman said.




But Bush campaign spokesman Terry Holt denied any intention to draw a direct line between Kerry and the head of the Third Reich and said the German's image came from attack ads run on the Democrat's behalf by the group MoveOn.org.

MoveOn.org quickly withdrew a spot linking Bush and Hitler, and the Kerry campaign said it had nothing to do with it. But Holt said the incident was proof that the Democrats had "taken political rhetoric to a new low".

In the Republican ad, Hitler's image is mixed with the angry faces of former vice president and presidential candidate Al Gore, filmmaker Michael Moore, congressman Richard Gephardt, former Vermont governor Howard Dean and Kerry, all fulminating about Bush.

The ad concludes with the words: "This is not time for pessimism and rage. It's a time for optimism, steady leadership and progress".

Hm, never saw that commercial. Sounds like a really dumb move to me. Who the hell uses one of the most infamous leaders ever in a commercial in an attempt to swing votes? It's like Ford using OJ Simpson in commercials to sell Broncos. :screwy:

Ugh. This is why I don't vote. Politics is a disgusting concoction, and unfortunately the shit always rises toward the top.

Ugh. This is why I don't vote.

Then I guess you really shouldn't be in this forum. :rolleyes:

Not strictly true...Everyone is entitled to an opinion,but it ain't worth shit unless you can act on it.If you don't vote,and you don't agitate against what you consider to be wrong, your opinion becomes worthless.

Then I guess you really shouldn't be in this forum.

That's a pretty dumb statement. I also drive an Accord, but that shouldn't stop me from going into the 3000GT forum and posting my opinions. Just because someone doesn't vote, doesn't mean their opinion is any less valuable. I CRINGE whenever someone spouts any of that "If you don't vote, you don't have the right to complain" crap. The way I see it, if I WERE to vote, it would be a write in for Bill Cosby or something. So it wouldn't count anyways. In the end, the Electoral College directly makes the decision, not me. I don't like Bush, because, well, look at this country's standing right now. I don't like Kerry, because he's carrying around his own numerous improprieties, and doesn't strike me as an individual with any steadfast conviction. None of the other guys even have a chance at being elected (they never do, though all the power to them for trying) and when it comes down to it, there is just too much lying that is involved with almost all facets of politics. Many would say I'm giving up my right to opinion because I don't vote. I say I'm just saving myself the frustration and disillusionment that will result from actions (almost inevitably) taken by a leader contradictory to what they claimed and promised during their candidacy. I know a lot of very reasonable people who ardently supported Bush 4 years ago, who are now very troubled, and speak of writing in for persons who aren't running, or (now THIS is disheartening) voting for someone else just because they AREN'T Dubya.

Yeah I don't vote, but I pay taxes, I'm a prime draft candidate, I adhere to the country's laws, and I'm along for the same ride you are. So I'll voice my opinion anyways, because frankly, while it's nice to say you've cast your vote for a president, he's/she's only as good as the people appointed to advise him/her. And we don't get to vote for those key figures.

That's a pretty dumb statement. So was this:Ugh. This is why I don't vote. Politics is a disgusting concoction, and unfortunately the shit always rises toward the top.

Back to topic...
The opposition will always cry "foul" when a campaign ad hits paydirt.

Haven't seen it but of all the images to not use in a campaing - Hitler is one that shouldn't be used. Using Gore, Gephardt Dean and Moore should be enough to scare anyone anyway. Using references to Hitler is in bad taste - regardless of who does it.













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So was this:
The opposition will always cry "foul" when a campaign ad hits paydirt.

are you implying that kerry is the new hitler?

and im very surprised his campaign advisors let such a thing run on the air. its simply a horrible move. it wont win over any swing voters, rather inflame them against his use of hitler, and possibly lose him votes (not that im complaining) what a dumb campaign move.

Yeah, hitler was totally the wrong image for the republicans to use. Hitler was also wrong for the democrats to compare bush to, because Bush is more of a General Tojo than an Adolf Hitler. :icon16:
Gore was like the Pilsbury Dough-Boy with a labotomy.
Kerry, looks like he should be the principal of a kindergarten. Anyway, the point is that they're all evil. :smile:

Not strictly true...Everyone is entitled to an opinion,but it ain't worth shit unless you can act on it.If you don't vote,and you don't agitate against what you consider to be wrong, your opinion becomes worthless.
I totally agree.

Not strictly true...Everyone is entitled to an opinion,but it ain't worth shit unless you can act on it.If you don't vote,and you don't agitate against what you consider to be wrong, your opinion becomes worthless.
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Let's see...Hitler invaded a foreign country and started killing everyone there. Sounds more like Bush than anyone else.

Anyways, it's appalling that Bush would even use the likeness of Hitler in a campaign ad against Kerry. It's completely in bad taste.

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Let's see...Hitler invaded a foreign country and started killing everyone there. Sounds more like Bush than anyone else.


Actually, the Nazis were quite selective about who they killed. They made a point of removing the politicians who would not play ball. That does kinda sound like Bush in Iraq. :iceslolan


Anyways, it's appalling that Bush would even use the likeness of Hitler in a campaign ad against Kerry. It's completely in bad taste.

Poor taste is something I've come to expect from the Bush administration.

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Let's see...Hitler invaded a foreign country and started killing everyone there. Sounds more like Bush than anyone else.

Hey, c'mon, comparing Bush and Hitler is just plain wrong.

Hitler served his tour in combat! :D But seriously...

Yeah, hitler was totally the wrong image for the republicans to use. Hitler was also wrong for the democrats to compare bush to, because Bush is more of a General Tojo than an Adolf Hitler.
Gore was like the Pilsbury Dough-Boy with a labotomy.
Kerry, looks like he should be the principal of a kindergarten. Anyway, the point is that they're all evil.

Really? I think Kerry looks like a flesh-eating zombie. Maybe he ate GW's braiiiiinnnnnnssss.... :rofl: but anyway, the Democrats didn't compare Bush to Hitler - MoveOn.org ran a contest -- submit your own ad to run during the SuperBowl, and someone entered it in the contest. It didn't get far. MoveOn deleted it (and rightly so).

The Bush ad, however, is official, even has Dubs himself mentioning how he approved it at the beginning. That's a big difference...

(edit) woops - no, the ad DOESN'T have dubs mentioning etc etc etc. My bad. (Good for him, btw.)

Hey, c'mon, comparing Bush and Hitler is just plain wrong.

Hitler served his tour in combat! :D But seriously...

not to mention, hitler was actually elected.

Its a good thing that Bush was elected.

Its a bad thing when anyone uses Hitler as a comparison and that included the foolish comparisons being made by members here with Bush. :disappoin Maybe one day some synapses will finally make their proper connections and let some actually grow up.













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Its a good thing that Bush was elected.

Its a bad thing when anyone uses Hitler as a comparison and that included the foolish comparisons being made by members here with Bush. :disappoin Maybe one day some synapses will finally make their proper connections and let some actually grow up.

Ah yes, Yogs whips out the trump card. "I can't actually refute the comparisons which have been drawn, so I will simply refer to the commentor as childish."

The condescending attitude is only justified when you have successfully debated an issue and proven your views as better grounded than your opponents. :disappoin

I'd like to say you're correct, hell, I'd like to say there IS no justification for a condescending attitude, ever. But when it comes down to it, no matter how much people insist that these discussions are for enlightenment and education, everyone is condescending to everyone else. That's why politics is considered one of the taboos if you wish to carry on a friendly chat with one or more people. Unless your views are EXACTLY alike, there is more than likely going to be a frustration at the least, or fisticuffs at the most. People can't avoid being condescending in some way, even if they don't mean to. Most places where people gather to share their views and opinions on volatile issues are rife with this attitude, and these forums are no different.

Ah yes, Yogs whips out the trump card. "I can't actually refute the comparisons which have been drawn, so I will simply refer to the commentor as childish."

The condescending attitude is only justified when you have successfully debated an issue and proven your views as better grounded than your opponents. :disappoin

There is no need to refute ridiculous claims :disappoin The comments were childish. The fact you seemed to have missed that doesn't really surprise me.

I suggest you take your own advice on condescending attitudes :disappoin













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Really? I think Kerry looks like a flesh-eating zombie. Maybe he ate GW's braiiiiinnnnnnssss.... :rofl: QUOTE]


That would have been a short lunch.
I've seen more gray matter in a hot dog than in GW's smirking chimp dome.

That would have been a short lunch.
I've seen more gray matter in a hot dog than in GW's smirking chimp dome.
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