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Venom 400 performance chip?


Kev3000GT
06-26-2004, 08:53 PM
Does anybody have this on their cars? How does it work? How well does it work? Is it reliable? Does it work with/replace my ECU? For $300 and a "25% hp gain", isn't it worth the money? Anybody got any links for more info? Gracias.

osok_deadeye_21
06-26-2004, 09:30 PM
hey i used to have one of those for my 96 gt and they suck. they work good till you get passed 60mph then it starts to feel like the tranny is having a hard problem to shift. At one point I thought my tranny was going to blow up or something cause it started to make weird noises. I dont know maybe my engine cant handle it. I paid 300 bucks from jegs.com and am in the process of my refund. I dont think its worth hurting your tranny over 300 bucks. I mean sure if the chip works on your car find then keep it other then that its not worth it. I hoped I helped.

GreekPower
06-26-2004, 09:36 PM
i wouldnt get the chip just do some data logging and ull get better results

osok_deadeye_21
06-26-2004, 10:05 PM
i wouldnt get the chip just do some data logging and ull get better results

i totally agree

azn3000GTRacer
06-27-2004, 02:28 AM
lol for the peeps that dont know how to do that how exactally would you do data logging?

haaj
06-27-2004, 04:39 AM
And once you log data, what do you do with it? Maybe this is sort of a larger question, but how do you tune your car using that data? For example, if you're running to lean wouldn't that mean you have to get bigger injectors or something like that? Sorry, I know this question sounds really stupid ;)

Kev3000GT
06-27-2004, 08:18 PM
thanks for the info bout the chip. but now i have the same question as haaj! Help me once again, wise sages!!!

Hotshot8792
06-28-2004, 11:00 AM
ehh, i dont think that a N/A would need a datalog as much as a TT, but you could fine tune your car even better with a datalogger if you invest in an S-AFC. I wouldnt waste money on the venom module, i hear they dont work from people who have actually used them on our car. It just makes you think your going faster than you actually are, pretty much, it does the same thing as putting a block of wood on the bottom of your foot. It tells your car that your doing 75% throttle when your only doing like 50% throttle.

haaj
06-28-2004, 08:36 PM
So, basically a datalogger is useless without special components, correct? On an N/A, i.e. without an aftermarket fuel controller or boost & boost controller, etc, there really isn't any way to tune the F/A mixture. Right? I mean, what else could you possibly tune without actually swapping parts?

youngvr4
06-29-2004, 02:33 AM
i know a guy with a 300zxtt who has one, i'll pm him and have him post

LandoAWD
06-29-2004, 10:49 AM
It tells your car that your doing 75% throttle when your only doing like 50% throttle.
Basically. Save the 300+ and get a few useful mods.

91300zxtt
06-29-2004, 01:51 PM
i like it alot, up to 25% no id say more like 8-10%. i find it to be very relieablebelieve me youll see the difference more than you will intake or headers. i say go for it honestly youll be happy

LandoAWD
06-29-2004, 01:54 PM
i like it alot, up to 25% no id say more like 8-10%. i find it to be very relieablebelieve me youll see the difference more than you will intake or headers. i say go for it honestly youll be happy
You know this via dyno time, I ass-ume?

Your butt dyno might be a bit skewed on actual horsepower seeing as you have been raped by Venom on a shitty product.

91300zxtt
06-29-2004, 02:31 PM
YOUR GONNA ATTACK ME FOR HELPING? go fuck your self asshole. go drive your laser let the big guys have their convo. what better mods are you gonna get for 300 you tell me? come on. o thats right there arent any.

LandoAWD
06-29-2004, 02:37 PM
Nice dodge on the question. It seems you have found the Venom Wormhole where the product actually works for you and not for anyone else.

Also, feel free to point out where I attacked anything but the Venom 400. I dare you.

Congrats.

As for mods under 300:

tune up
air filter
boost controller (he hasn't said if he is turbo or not)
intake piping
header (if he is N/T)

Shall I continue?

As for "big boys", maybe you could try typing like one, because you appear to be a little girl from over here in NC.

So, you going to answer my question about how you measured your HP gains? Tell me it was a "butt dyno" or a "G-Tech performance meter"...please, it would make my day.

91300zxtt
06-29-2004, 02:41 PM
Nice dodge on the question. It seems you have found the Venom Wormhole where the product actually works for you and not for anyone else.

Also, feel free to point out where I attacked anything but the Venom 400. I dare you.

Congrats.

As for mods under 300:

tune up
air filter
boost controller (he hasn't said if he is turbo or not)
intake piping
header (if he is N/T)

Shall I continue?

As for "big boys", maybe you could try typing like one, because you appear to be a little girl from over here in NC.

So, you going to answer my question about how you measured your HP gains? Tell me it was a "butt dyno" or a "G-Tech performance meter"...please, it would make my day.

kiss my ass lil dude. never once did i say i measured it, said its more like. do you know what 25% would feel like?

and your little ass-ume crap. get a life man, dont be jealous of mine

LandoAWD
06-29-2004, 02:46 PM
This is why I added my 2c. You have no idea how much HP it added or took away, no means of finding out, and no understanding of how the unit works, yet you recommend throwing away 300 bucks on one.

Typical ricer teen.

My life is just fine, thanks. I hope yours turns out as well when your folks get sick of you living in the basement, typing with one hand, and kick you out. :)

Edit: Feel free to dig through my posts and find any bad info I have given out. I can think of one particular thread you did just that in...this one.

91300zxtt
06-29-2004, 03:01 PM
haha funny. ya im a real ricer you know cuz i have a bodykit, huge wheels, humongeous wing on the back. i have no mods to the exterior or interior yet im a ricer. for your info buddy i dont live with my parents, ive been on my own for about 3 months now, bet you wish you could say the same huh? by the way do you have a venom nmudule? cuz you know if you dont you cant say they are horrible. so as for my bad advice count im still at 0 you on the other hand chalk up 1 more

LandoAWD
06-29-2004, 03:07 PM
for your info buddy i dont live with my parents, ive been on my own for about 3 months now,:rofl:

I bet I have socks older than you.
by the way do you have a venom nmudule? cuz you know if you dont you cant say they are horrible. so as for my bad advice count im still at 0 you on the other hand chalk up 1 more

Actually, I have know SEVERAL local people that bought into their BS, both turbo and non-turbo. None had any measurable gains, and none still own them. If that isn't good enough,I understand how the module works, plain and simple. Maybe you should look into a resistor kit for your intake on E-bay...I heard those add 30hp to the wheels.

You STILL can't answer my questions or provide any relevant data that conflicts with what I have stated.

Your logic, spelling, and intelligence appear to be flawed, so let me know if you need help deciphering (making sense out of) the bigger words I used.

All said, you got butt-hurt over a comment about a product that is known crap, it was even mentioned by another 3KGTer in this very thread, and decided to make wild accusations and call names.

Grow up, junior.

91300zxtt
06-29-2004, 03:21 PM
1979, huh and im the bigger man im 17, out of the house for 3 months there bro. your prolly one of those guys who still lives at home with mom who cleans your room, does your laundry, and cooks your food cuz your too lazy to get off the damn couch. i know your type.as for the module kinda funny that i have seen decent gains from it, but what do i know i only own one. you know people with them that dont like them haha i know people with vipers that dont like them, whats your point? its quite obvious you suffer from lil mans syndrome. you gotta come on here and try to make others feel bad to fill the void. haha wont work with me lil guy. you wanna attack me more come to the pm's.

LandoAWD
06-29-2004, 03:25 PM
1979, huh and im the bigger man im 17, out of the house for 3 months there bro. your prolly one of those guys who still lives at home with mom who cleans your room, does your laundry, and cooks your food cuz your too lazy to get off the damn couch. i know your type.as for the module kinda funny that i have seen decent gains from it, but what do i know i only own one. you know people with them that dont like them haha i know people with vipers that dont like them, whats your point? its quite obvious you suffer from lil mans syndrome. you gotta come on here and try to make others feel bad to fill the void. haha wont work with me lil guy. you wanna attack me more come to the pm's.
http://www.carreview.com/Engine,Management/Venom,400,Control,Module/PRD_54330_2874crx.aspx#reviews

http://www.j-body.org/faq/10/20/

http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=124037&highlight=venom+400

http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=98141&highlight=venom+400

http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=64786&highlight=venom+400



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You are still to jaded and self absorbed to provide any data, so I gave you some.

I don't have to explain my job, living arrangements,marital status, size, etc...but I'll give you the short version since you are on my dick so bad:

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There ya go you little dickrider. Now, if you'll take your manpleasers off my cock and get back to the topic instead of dreaming up juvenile fantasies of what "LandoAWD's" life is like, I'd appreciate it.

LandoAWD
06-29-2004, 03:28 PM
Feel free to post any relevant data about how this module helped you at anything over 40% throttle that couldn't be achieved by stepping on the accelerator, and I'll let you "win" this, but I am out for the day. :loser:

91300zxtt
06-29-2004, 03:38 PM
haha my manpleasers? ok bro. heres what i have found from your sites, its about half and half of those that like it so your point is invalid as well as mine is. i like it on mine, i see sum gains, maybe you dont, o well. different cars see different gains

youngvr4
06-29-2004, 03:52 PM
from my reaserch on the product some like it and some don't. i know a few people with it who say its a noticeable gain and others say it doesn't do anything. not sure if it has anything to do with not hooking it up right or what, but everyone has there opinion on it.

Igovert500
06-30-2004, 12:36 AM
WHOA...do you both need timeouts...chill out...I'm having flashbacks of 5th grade recess.

I don't have this specific chip/'module' nor have I researched it extensively...that said I will offer my .02 and hope that it doesn't resort to this same #$%^. (ps. read the forum rules before posting, you both have been here long enough...act like it).

From my experience/research on other chips. Perhaps 10% are legit...they are the expensive ones, advertised on spike tv or in the jegs catalog, they also come equipped with tuning abilities.

Many chips are in the market, and most of which are resistors that lie to the ecu about ambient temps, and throttle response, essentially causing you to run rich. This may feel 'faster' to some, but in actuality it isn't. I am not saying this venom module does that, I am simply saying that is a rather common practice amoung companies that make such 'chips'. To my knowledge no decent chip has been made for the 3000gt, that being said, I am sure there are things I havn't heard about.
As to a better mod for $300 I'm sure I could name a good 15-20. Downpipe, boost controller, LS6 MAFT, etc...
Regardless...without actual dyno'd proof, I would look to spend my hard-earned cash in other ways...but that may just be me.

youngmanvr4
07-01-2004, 10:41 AM
When is it that you feel the gain of power. Is it when your at 25% throttle? Or 100% throttle? All it does is push the throttle to 100% when it sees a sharp jump in throttle response. That's it. The same affect can be acheived by pushing all the way down on the pedal (which, believe it or not, some people don't do, which is why they see a gain in power when they install it).

LandoAWD
07-01-2004, 10:42 AM
When is it that you feel the gain of power. Is it when your at 25% throttle? Or 100% throttle? All it does is push the throttle to 100% when it sees a sharp jump in throttle response. That's it. The same affect can be acheived by pushing all the way down on the pedal (which, believe it or not, some people don't do, which is why they see a gain in power when they install it).
:iceslolan

Thourun
07-01-2004, 12:19 PM
The same affect can be acheived by pushing all the way down on the pedal (which, believe it or not, some people don't do, which is why they see a gain in power when they install it).
Is that true? There are people out there without a lead foot! :icon16:

alan92rttt
07-01-2004, 12:54 PM
This product has been discussed many times on 3si.org. THe conclusion that has been reached EVERY TIME is that the same effect can be had by adding more throttle.

Its not worth the money.

youngmanvr4
07-01-2004, 01:40 PM
Yea my grand-pa is one of the people with out a lead foot. But that just give me a good idea...install the chip on his car. That would be funny.

Thourun
07-01-2004, 02:22 PM
Yea my grand-pa is one of the people with out a lead foot. But that just give me a good idea...install the chip on his car. That would be funny.
:evillol: I was actually thinking of something similer involving my grandma and her focus lol.

osok_deadeye_21
07-03-2004, 04:23 AM
I got rid of my venom 400 control module since it was acting weird when I was on the highway. When I accelerated past 40mph the rpms were going up and down rapidly mostly between 60-70mph. Has anyone else had this problem? I am in the process of my refund since I was worried it was going to put pressur on my engine or screw something up.

osok_deadeye_21

vtec accord96
07-05-2004, 11:51 PM
I would look at a JET Performance Chip. It increases your HP while increasing your 1/4 miles time and throttle respones.

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