Silverado burnout question

Hey guys, first post, my dad has a 2002 2wd silverado, when he holds the brake down and floors it, it revs to around 1700 and does not turn em over, me and him both figured they would smoke off, can anyone tell me if there is some kind of brake or something we are not aware of, any information would be helpful, thanx everyone

Which engine does he have?

5.3, its not running sick or anything, runs fine any other time, were not sure if something is wired wrong or what, or if the 4 wheels discs are that damn good

That's kind of odd that he can't power brake. If he has traction control though, make sure to switch it off.

my 4.8 smokes the tires just fine. the 5.3 should do it just as good if not better. are you sure you're doing it right? :p

I just drove the truck, its kinda strange I pulled out somewhere and floored it while turning, honestly it didn't boil them off like it should i don't think. I would also hold the brake down, floor it, hold it (would only rev to 1,700) and release, it would barely chirp when I released, he has posy track, but you can usually feel it kick in after it would start to turn over etc, we never even felt anything start to turn over,, would you suggest us just go ahead and take it to the dealer and have them look, or is there like a traction control fuse I can pull, try that see if it helps.

I wouldn't think its the 4-wheel disc brakes, but who knows, you guys have the 4-wheel discs too, correct?

yep yep.

i dunno if goin to the dealer is gonna be any good. I could see you asking them "why won't my truck burn out?" hehe, but you could always try.

lol I agree with that, but my dad is like 56 so hopefully they wouldn't think he was ragging it, but seems like it might be sick, and it is under warranty, so we might as well swing it out there

My 4.3 will lite em up when powerbraking but but I don't have posi. :dunno:

maybe your pressing the brake too hard??

only apply enough brake to keep it from rolling ahead.

only apply enough brake to keep it from rolling ahead.
:iagree:

Did you shift the transmission into 1. my z71 will smoke the 285/75 BFGoodies I have on my rig.

We have tried everything, barely hold brake, apply more pressure, shifted down to 1st, put in tow/haul everything, he has a bed cover on it, and a shop vac a few shovels and things in the back but thats not enough to weight it down that much, I have no idea what the problem is, may have it checked out, I will let everyone know what it is, if its anything

If you have Traction Control, it won't let the tires spin. To turn it off, push the control button on the dash. If "traction" lights up, it's off.

It coiuld be the torque management in the computer holiding it back.

Not trying to be a jack ass here, but have you made sure that your tires are properly inflated?

What Size tires do u have on it and what is the gears in the rear do you have???

Yeah there are alot of things that would come into play here!! Trq management too high, Tire size, gears, outside temp, tire temp, torque convertor lock up

My question is this Do you have a lots of money or why dont you like your rear Tires? I thought the point was more traction more traction, dont want to spin when you are racing.

My 99 5.3 W/possi lights em up! unless I throw weight in the back, do you have a camper shell?

My 04 5.3 does the same thing, it's embarassing. I think it's the torque management. If you nail it from a dead stop it takes off OK, but then at about 15mph or so it really kicks you in the ass and gets moving, I'm thinking that's the TM turning off once the truck is rolling. I wish there was an easy way to disable it other than getting a reprogrammed ECM.

Same thing with mine though, power braking just does not work well at all.

witht he factory wheels on my 02 silverado ext. cab 5.3 i could light them up but its not that easy with the 285/50/20 tires on it they are wider and have a ton more grip.. i personaly dont have traction control i didnt know silverados did? am i missing something just curious?
Chris

Some had traction control as an option. They all have torque management which is why you get a delayed respone when you slap the throttle down. This is to prevent drivetrain abuse. Basically you floor it, the computers sees it and delivers some power, after a few seconds it realizes that it is still floored so you really need it and it wasn't an accidental thing so it opens the throttle fully.

Dude, seriously, i have a 2003 Silverado with a 4.8, i have roasted an entire set of tires, it's the driver. just have to know how, it's not that hard

Dude, I know how to do a burnout. It's my truck that doesn't. Seriously.

My problem is that it does it way too easily!!
In this pic I applied no brakes I was at a dead stop and mashed that skinny pedal to the floor and put down dual 20' strips of smokin rubber!!
http://memimage.cardomain.com/member_images/6/web/618000-618999/618884_12_full.jpg

/\ Nice burnout pic :ylsuper:

/\ Nice burnout pic :ylsuper:


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But hey Sparky, don't feel bad about not being able to do burnouts. If it makes you feel any better, my truck tires barely spin out on ice!! (my truck would get out run by a geo metro for sure!)

I really dont think there was a traction controll option for silverados in 2002. I have a 2002 ext cab Z71 with the 5.3 & 4L60-E & posi and I was able to powerbrake it, but the tires werent spinning very fast. I think the ext cab has something to do with it, the longer frame twists more, not getting as much power to the ground. Also, untill recently, I was in the dark about the torque management system...

like the pic of your truck, only thing i dont like is the fact it looks exactly like mine except mine sits higher int he front and i have the chromes... and i've had alot more smoke than that :-d 4.8L 5 speed

Not trying to brag or insult anyones intelligence or anything, but Iv'e had my '98 unmodified (at the time) 4.3L , with 100K+ miles, the stepside loaded down w/a $5,000 autobody order (hood, liftgate, doors, c-members, reinforcments, heavy stuff, etc.), A/C blastin', in rush hour traffic, on hot TX summer day, blah blah blah..........Roastin' BOTH BFG 275/60/15's, dumpin hell-a-fide smoke action with no wheel hopin' on the highway gettin' pissed of @ traffic not moving...... Moral of the story is there is no doubt that truck should smoke 'em. My theory is ya'll have been tryin' too hard. I've had moments were conditions are ideal (unloaded, no A/C, etc.) for a burnout, but only one tire starts spinning and hoping 'cause I'm tryin' to show off. Drive around a few days.... Cadillacin' it, speeed limits, A/C, slowin down @ yellows, you know...Cadillacin'....then when that motor purrs at you, go for it, roll down the windows, kill the A/C, drop it in 3rd (my truck works better in 3rd rather than 1st for some reason, try that), gently hold the brakes ans gun it!!!! Then post a picture for all of us

Bowtie Bandit, Is this the same paintjob as the truck in the Kill Bill movie???

i have the same problem with my 04 extcab 4.3L. it doesn't powerbreak. ive tried and it just revs a little and doesn't go anywhere. what's up with that, everything is stock and its got about 4k miles on it, first day i got it brand new it didn't powerbreak. what's the deal? oh and i know how because i did it like a pro with my old car.

i had that same problem with my 2000 4.3L V6...so i threw a 4.8 in it. fixed the problem :biggrin:

how do you "throw a 4.8 in"?

very carefully

so what do you think the problem is... not enough power?

It seemed that way. When I tried to powerbrake it with the V6 my rpms would stay constant around 1800 and wouldnt even turn the tires...now I have trouble keeping the tires from spinning off the line. good times

ya thats what mine does... doesn't really go past 1800 and doesnt turn the tires. is there anyway to fix this easily without getting a new engine

i'm not really sure. I just accepted the fact that I couldn't do burnouts and never really tried again, until i put the v8 in. perhaps a programmer to change rev limiters, shift points, etc. could do the trick? again this is just a guess

Ok, I think I've figured it out for y'all. GM adds a thing called "Torque Management" into all of the 99 and newer model trucks w/ V8's. What this is for is so Gm can pass emission testing and some kind of other crap, but in the mean time, all it does it kill your power when your trying to spin, or when you start off hard...basically it kills your power until the truck sees that you really need the power then it lets you have it like when passing someone. Its a pain in the craw and I'm getting it removed when I get my Nelson tune.

2004 std. cab 5.3 2wd. that "torque management" crap doesnt bother me, if i have it. my truck only has 560mi. on it......this thread made me go try it for the first time.......it was fun ;)

Oh my friend, you have it. We all have it. It's like a diseasE!!!!!
Oh..back to sanity, its not as apparant on 2wd as a Z71, like mine I don't guess.

Ok OK i yall want to do a " Burn Out" and need to know an easy way then you just slip up to a sold wall jently put the bumper to it and then mash the gas you should spin the tires with out having to hit the brakes. lol




:evillol: :screwy: :puke: :twak: :wtf:

No doubt. lol
I can, from a dead stop, just stomp mine to the floor and leave black marks for about 6 feet both sides..I need a burnout pic too I guess..

my 97 Z71 with 128k will smoke'm from a dead stop and will do one hell of a brake stand when its running.
lol

I remember reading about the whole torque management thing when the new Hemi engine came out in the dodge trucks. They figured out a wire to splice into under the hood that eleminated the torque management system. Didn't cause any MILs to come on and didn't seem to cause any problems with the vehicle other than keeping fresh tires on the back end. Think there would be a cheap fix like that for our trucks? My truck will do a burnout, but it isn't anything spectacular. Oh well with my driving habits that's probably a good thing.

Jake

My 04 Z71 Ext. 5.3 will smok'm in reverse but not in 1st or drive. No matter what I try, reverse is the only way to make it happen.

Well, me and some friends went out tonight, and I wanted to see if I could power brake my truck. To my dismay I could only barely brake the tires loose. Same symptoms. it reaches approx 2000rpm and stops. This after i had installed a cold air intake, headers, functional cowl hood, and hypertech PPIII. Damn this torque management.

If we feel like riding the engines hard and ruin tires we should be allowed to do so. I may just have to look into selling the hypertech and go with that nelson tune Ol' jeverett is getting.

lol, do it man. I still have to order mine, I'm being a lazy ass about it!!

get a 5speed stick its all good

i did some experimenting of my own. i found that when i powerbrake it the rpm wont go above a certain mark but the tires will spin no problem at all(maybe enuff to get a little smoke goin), but once i let off the brake the rpms shoot up and the tires smoke like crazy almost instantly. its quite sexy. However, torque management is still GAY

I Have a 2004 GMC SIERRIA 4.8 1500 regular cab, I am running Long Tube Headers and True Dual Cat Back Exhaust. But from a dead stop.... without Brake Torque it just sitting still and Mashing it I can smoke the tires off for as long as I wanna hold the pedal down. Or I can coast along around 20 to 25 miles and Mash it and Smoke the tires off.

this is a 2004 posting,,,,,, ancient..

smoking tires / burn outs to be created easy this can mean the tires are very bad, or you drive it with no gas in truck light load will cause this effect. if a single cab type less wt on rear.

if you have an open diff or a locker not locking that will also do it.

very common . too much air in tires also .

Take it out of 4x4 lol mabey your brakes are adjusted so it can't do it?