Need Help Asap

hey, i just got offered a b18b from a 90-93 integra, for $700. I was thinking about buying this and putting it into my 95 dx civic. I probably wouldn't put the cylinder head in, i'd want a gsr or type r head. What i want to know is what year of heads will fit on the b18b 90-93 block? I really need to know asap, because there are a few people thknin about getting this engine.

cheers
mike

ps-i'd like to run nitrous on this, so what is the best thing to do to this engine? thanks

You'll probably be able to put a B17 GSR head. If you can find it.

Originally posted by soul180
hey, i just got offered a b18b from a 90-93 integra, for $700. I was thinking about buying this and putting it into my 95 dx civic. I probably wouldn't put the cylinder head in, i'd want a gsr or type r head. What i want to know is what year of heads will fit on the b18b 90-93 block? I really need to know asap, because there are a few people thknin about getting this engine.

cheers
mike

ps-i'd like to run nitrous on this, so what is the best thing to do to this engine? thanks

Any year would fit.

ok, now that we know that any year will fit, can i take some suggestions on what head to get, as well, i need a transimission because this engine doens't come with one. If people could include cost that would be awesome, thanks for all your help.

mike

also, what is needed to install this engine into my car? will i need new mounts?

also, is $700 good for the motor, it doesn't have a tranny, or distributor....will these be hard to find? thanks a lot all

cheers

-mike

Well my friend has a b16 head in it and its pretty damn quick.Its the cheapest one u can get also. 700 is pretty good price. You can use any tranny...well i think ur car is hydro so u might wanna pick up a hydro tranny from a gsr or any b-series tranny that has hydro. As for the swap, you'll need b-series mounts from either HAsport, place racing, or HCP mounts with shift linkages. I believe u need integra axles also.Please correct me if theres anything missing . I think thats all you need ...oh and u need an ecu to match your v-tec head.

B-series trannies goes anywhere from 350-800. Its not hard to find at all. Go to www.thepartstrader.com You'll find plenty there.

i wouldnt boost or squeeze on such a fragile setup. LS/VTEC can make power, but it doesnt stay in one piece for too long.

what is needed to build this ls/vtec to be a reliable, powerful machine? The engine is going to sit until i have all the parts, so i'm going to rework a lot of it. Unfortuanately i odn't know what ot rework or rebuild or replace. I really appreciate the help, and please keep it coming, i need to decide whether or not i want ot buy this engine by tonight....

also, i just read rice rocketeer's post about destroking engines when doinga swap like this. I'm wondering if i need to do this, i'm not plannin on building this engine much past 200hp, but i do want it to last a long time... thanks guys/girls

You need to destroke it and get the R/S ratio right. A very expensive procedure.

I don't know about lasting a long time but 200hp is possible. Just need to get some stout internals and don't over rev it and pray.

well, let's say i just swap a b16a3 head on, and then go intake header and exhaust, it won't be close to 200hp, but will there still be the need for the destroking? I really want to get this swap done, but that seems like it's going to be getting too expensive... how much is this destroking usually? and wat do you mean by stout parts? thanks a lot rr

oh, and by the way, this is just going to be a daily driver/street racing car, it's not going to go to the track or anything like that.

thanks

-mike

Naa, for those kinds of mods, you won't need anything extra. Just reduce the rev limiter to about 7000-7500 and it should be fine.

As for stout components, I mean upgraded rods so they'll have less of a chance that they'll split in half and poke out thru your engine block.

Hmm...I hope it isn't the same engine that GhettoLegs was trying to buy!

so, just to make sure everythings is clear in my mind....if all i plan on doing is I/H/E, what needs to be done to make this transplant work? I need engine mounts, right? What about a oil line ot supply the head with oil, this is also needed, correct? Is this very difficult, i'm not doing it persoanlly, but a mechanic friend is doing it, is this totally out of the ordingary, i think he's swapped engines before, but let's say he hasn't, will it be tough to do if he has some form of instructions?

thanks alot everyone, i'm kinda slow (which i guess is why i want a new engine...wow..that was cheesy:rolleyes: )

sorry, so i don't need this upgraded rods then?

by engine mounts, do you mean the mounts that came out of the integra, or new engine mounts from HAsports?

thanks

Yeah, the mounts come from the integra. The rods aren't completely neccesary if you follow the precautions I mentioned.

This site let's you get to nitty-gritty of ls/vtec:

http://www.geocities.com/thelsvtec/

And you should read the rest of this, to see if it answers anymore questions:

http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?postid=189840&t=5861

k i've read the whole page on both those sites. i read them prior to posting most of my messages though. Next qestion i have...the precautions you talked aobut, what were they. I reread my whole thread, and reread http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?postid=189840&t=5861 , and i still don't know which they were you are taklin about. thanks rr

No problem.

1. Reduce the rev limiter to atleast 7500.
2. Don't go for major power adders, like nitrous.
3. If you do, get atleast rods
4. Pray :)

that praying part worries me, haha... i figure god owes me a few by now, so i'm going ot buy it... what should i look for in the engine...anything tell tale signs that the engine is good or not?

thanks all

Compression test is a must. (You could even replace the rings) Leakdown wouldn't hurt. Clutch should be replaced just in case. Belts and hoses too. You should also check if it atleast starts up.

but how would i test all this if the engine is not inside of a car? It's jsut in his garage. let me know

you said if i do a big power adder, such as nitrous, i should replace at least the rods...what should i replace them with? b16a rods? if i got nitrous, i'd just get a zex kit, and run a 55-65 shot, will that wreck things if i got the right plugs, and got new rods?

Originally posted by soul180
but how would i test all this if the engine is not inside of a car? It's jsut in his garage. let me know

Then everything but the start up thing you can do. You need to ask for a kind of a start up warranty in writing. And obviously get all his information and check it. And becareful the motor isn't stolen.

Originally posted by soul180
you said if i do a big power adder, such as nitrous, i should replace at least the rods...what should i replace them with? b16a rods? if i got nitrous, i'd just get a zex kit, and run a 55-65 shot, will that wreck things if i got the right plugs, and got new rods?

Replace them with aftermarket rods like eagle, endyn or crower. As for the nitrous...I can't tell you the exact breaking point but the R/S ratio is not optimal for anything big. Common sense tells me that a 50/60 shot occasionally shouldn't hurt.