anyone here play guitar?

just curious how many people here play guitar. if anyone does, have you ever played inside and outside and noticed the sound/tone difference?

the reason I bring this up is because today I went up on top of this big hill that over looks basically the whole city, and I took my acoustic up there and played for about an hour. I was amazed at how good it sounded, I don't know if its just the wide open or something, but then I came home and played in my room and it almost doesn't even sound like the same song.

theres some word for it I think but I can't think of what its called... anyways just curious if anyone else has noticed this, or knows anyother cool ideas of places to play

......not I.

dangit, I saw a reply and thought someone did... you dissapoint me :( lol

dangit, I saw a reply and thought someone did... you dissapoint me :( lol

Sorry, I will leave now.......... :(

I use to play the quitar in my garage but I have never played outside before. It always sounded the same for me.

try outside, on like a hill, or a big open field... and hopefully your talking about an acoustic... because an electric will sound the same because its coming out of an amp

Do you have a subway station where you are?
When I lived in Montreal, there was almost always someone playing an instrument in there. It sounds awesome because of the acoustics, I guess. I've always wondered about playing my guitar in a public washroom (I'll never do it... that'd be way too weird) but, if you've ever sung a song in one (drunk at the bar?) it sounds pretty cool.
I used to have an upstairs apartment on Main street in my town that had an open section of roof outside my kitchen window. We used to get hammered, climb out the window with our guitars and sing and play until we passed out. Sometimes, the people going in and out of the restaurant across the street would stop and listen to us for a while... we even took a few shouted requests. It was fun to ham it up for complete stangers... still brings a smile to my face thinking about it:)

ah yes, acoustics.

And the reason it sounds better than in your room, is your room probably has: a bed, furniture, wallpaper, curtains, etc… all of which deaden a room. And it’s the same with any instrument, the better the sound can carry, whether it’s from reflecting correctly in a practice room or a “live” room, or carrying like in your hilltop scenario.

Most of the places I am listing are where I have/do play my violin, the guitar is more sporadic, as I don’t usually carry it around with me…

I’ve played in some pretty crazy places, in the city (not including concert halls/practice rooms/places designed for playing) my favorites are: parking garages (hehehe, sometimes people give you money), rooftops, bathrooms (not public bathrooms…), and random hallways.

most crazy and awesome place I’ve ever played: on the Great Wall, just got back from doing a concert there (yes, violin… not guitar. Sorry.)

Soyo- Sorry bud, but you could not be more wrong. :) well...maybe you could, but still.

Like someone else mentioned, playing inside will sound different because at the very least, you've got four walls and a cieling to reflect/absorb/refract/distort the sound. An acoustic guitar and an electric guitar simply have different amplification methods, but the sound they produce is changed in the same ways.

our swing choir sang in the National Cathedral- that place had a good three seconds of completely natural, un-miced resonance. it sent chills down my spine.

yea I guess I never thought about the electric sounding better too... it makes sense now though, I admit it, I was wrong :) haha

once I get a few more songs under my belt I wanna go play on a street corner or something so maybe I'll make some money :) but my city isn't that big so I doubt many people will walk by

I'm a lead guitarist. I've been playing for about 10 years.
Some of my work is on my website www.revoke.pretenda.com (and of course, pictures of yours truely :))

If the sound is pointed Directly AT me, then I find no differant inside or out.
I have played outside once with a P.A system at a gig I did last April, I was behind the P.A and couldn't hear what was going on.

yea I guess I never thought about the electric sounding better too... it makes sense now though, I admit it, I was wrong :) haha

once I get a few more songs under my belt I wanna go play on a street corner or something so maybe I'll make some money :) but my city isn't that big so I doubt many people will walk by


I've always wanted to do that. Just for fun though. I'm not that good, but if I had someone play lead or sing, I can play chords and just sit there. I live in Austin, Tx the live music capital of the world. Theres someone playing guitar or harminica on every corner.

haha oh yes, I used to live in corpus christi, Tx and went to austin many times

I just think it would be cool to see how many people would acctually stop and listen for a few minutes

I don't know about the dynamics of sound...but playing outside, especially on a great day or in a great location (like the top of a hill :biggrin: ) certainly FEELS different...

yeah man, i play rhythm and vocals in my band, the thing your talking about is called Acoustics.

Think of the way sound travels, it makes spherical waves out from where your guitar is. If you're in a big open space, some of those waves are going to go straight to your ear without bouncing off anything.
On the other hand, if you are indoors in your room, the waves will travel out, bounce off the walls, and then hit new waves coming from your guitar. This causes something called wave cancellation, but the point is, depending on the shape of your room, you will lose a lot of the sound quality.
The reason that studios have cork on their walls is not only to keep the recording room quiet, but also to elminate any bouncing of the sound waves off the walls. If there is no bouncing waves to hit the sound waves that you're presently making, there is no wave cancellation and thus a pure sound.

w00t. guitar geek represent

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The next step in becoming an uber-geek guitarist is to buy foam wall covering and drywall.

<-- bass guitar, used to play guitar

another bass thumpa here..

6 strings of wanking fun :)

next bass will have 7 though :icon16: :screwy: :smokin:

ive played guitar since i was 4, over 14 years now. i also work at tweeter center concert hall and honestly id rather listen to an indoor concert, gives off a much better vibe. outside loses alot of tone. when your inside you can feel the bass thumping your chest not so much inside.

It may seem better outside than inside with your guitar because, weather and air temperature an greatly affect the tuning of your guitar, or any instrument. A guitar can lose it's tone outside because you;re not used to being outside and playing, because there is almost nowhere for the sound to reflect off of. BUt in a room, like what ac427cpe, there are many objects that the sound can reflect off of. In open air sound just travels.

The best place I've played my acoustic electric was in my school auditorium. I hooked it up to the biggest amp my school had and it sounded soooo nice. I played Good Riddance by Green Day; a couple Dave Matthews; some Eagles; and Coldplay and it sounded so pretty.

yea, but when playing acoustic there is no bass to thump your chest so I prefer outside, although I've never played in an auditorium but I'd guess it souns good sense they are designed to deflect sounds in the right directions or whatever

but I still think playing on top of a hill overlooking the city at sunset is the best place to play acoustic

yeah man, i play rhythm and vocals in my band, the thing your talking about is called Acoustics.

Think of the way sound travels, it makes spherical waves out from where your guitar is. If you're in a big open space, some of those waves are going to go straight to your ear without bouncing off anything.
On the other hand, if you are indoors in your room, the waves will travel out, bounce off the walls, and then hit new waves coming from your guitar. This causes something called wave cancellation, but the point is, depending on the shape of your room, you will lose a lot of the sound quality.
The reason that studios have cork on their walls is not only to keep the recording room quiet, but also to elminate any bouncing of the sound waves off the walls. If there is no bouncing waves to hit the sound waves that you're presently making, there is no wave cancellation and thus a pure sound.

w00t. guitar geek represent


You have no idea what you're talking about.
Wave cancellation only happens when you have another source of sound that has a wave that is identicle to the original wave form, then, and only then, will 2 Sine waves cancel out.
There is a proper term for it, but I can't bloody remember it.

Sometimes if I'm sufficiently hammered and the music is sufficiently awesome I will play air guitar...does that count?

You have no idea what you're talking about.
Wave cancellation only happens when you have another source of sound that has a wave that is identicle to the original wave form, then, and only then, will 2 Sine waves cancel out.
There is a proper term for it, but I can't bloody remember it.


ok smartass.
heres what happens:


event 1. sound wave leaves ur guitar. It is immediately followed by other sound waves caused by the subsequent vibration of the string.
2. it arrives at a wall, and is deflected back along an angle equal to its angle of incidence.
3. the sound wave that is reflected backward has a vector which is roughly opposite to that off the original guitar waves, and where the vector of the reflected waves coincides with the vector of the original waves, there is sine wave cancellation. The wall effectively acts as a new source of sound.

Because the sound wave that was reflected has an extremely similar (for all practical purposes identical) wavelength as the original soundwaves that have not yet been deflected, they will cancel out. Waves cancellation causes a wave to break apart because crests combine with valleys.

And also, sound waves are not sine waves.
sine waves look like ..-''-..-''-.. and they are caused by perpetuating magnetic and electronic fields.
Sound waves are not electromagnetic waves, although they do fall under the same wave theory (i.e. of reflection, cancellation, etc.)

Sorry for the rant hah, just cant let people go thinking i dont know what im talking about because of soem smartass

EDIT: oh and the term you were trying to think of is destructive interference

ok smartass.
heres what happens:


event 1. sound wave leaves ur guitar. It is immediately followed by other sound waves caused by the subsequent vibration of the string.
2. it arrives at a wall, and is deflected back along an angle equal to its angle of incidence.
3. the sound wave that is reflected backward has a vector which is roughly opposite to that off the original guitar waves, and where the vector of the reflected waves coincides with the vector of the original waves, there is sine wave cancellation. The wall effectively acts as a new source of sound.

Because the sound wave that was reflected has an extremely similar (for all practical purposes identical) wavelength as the original soundwaves that have not yet been deflected, they will cancel out. Waves cancellation causes a wave to break apart because crests combine with valleys.

And also, sound waves are not sine waves.
sine waves look like ..-''-..-''-.. and they are caused by perpetuating magnetic and electronic fields.
Sound waves are not electromagnetic waves, although they do fall under the same wave theory (i.e. of reflection, cancellation, etc.)

Sorry for the rant hah, just cant let people go thinking i dont know what im talking about because of soem smartass

EDIT: oh and the term you were trying to think of is destructive interference

maybe they would take you seriously if you spelled some right?

and please dont start another flame war. we have had too many the past few days and its getting old

To get this thing back on subject...yes i play guitar, and yes different settings make for different sounds. Gotta love natural reverb. Sorry to advertise, but you can just look at the pics if you want to.

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ive played guitar since i was 4, over 14 years now. i also work at tweeter center concert hall and honestly id rather listen to an indoor concert, gives off a much better vibe. outside loses alot of tone. when your inside you can feel the bass thumping your chest not so much inside.

You going to see Clapton on the 4th?

nope i got work, therefore ill be seeing blue oyster cult, zztop, tesla, and the doors which makes no sense w/o morrison

I know your questions probably already answered, but...I play guitar. Fender Strat.

fender= worst guitar ever

fender= worst guitar ever

Oh come on, its not that bad. I admit, its not the best, but its alright for beginners. I mean come on, of course I would rather have a Gibson. But I don't have that much pocket change
:biggrin:

fender= worst guitar ever


eh theyre not bad, but theyre like civics.

Everyone even their grandpa has one, and no matter what color you paint it or shit you install in it, its still a Strat and it'll never perform like a esp or jackson

fender doesnt really equal civic. fender more or less equals BMW. your payin for the name. everyone wants one so bad they get the shittiest one just to say they have one

What about Takamine? I think it's a good guitar......but I'm only a noob at it, what do i know :biggrin: .

no takamine is decent, for that money however you could get a martin that sounds 20 times better

no takamine is decent, for that money however you could get a martin that sounds 20 times better

Acoustic electric, acoustic or electric? 'Cuz I have an acoustic electric Jasmine by Takamine.

jasmine blows, one of the worst guitars ever. and martin and takamine only make acoustic guitars

jasmine blows, one of the worst guitars ever. and martin and takamine only make acoustic guitars


I've been ripped off..........is that what you're saying?

no not if your a begginer, but once you learn to actually play youll realize its a shitty guitar

ok smartass.
heres what happens:


event 1. sound wave leaves ur guitar. It is immediately followed by other sound waves caused by the subsequent vibration of the string.
2. it arrives at a wall, and is deflected back along an angle equal to its angle of incidence.
3. the sound wave that is reflected backward has a vector which is roughly opposite to that off the original guitar waves, and where the vector of the reflected waves coincides with the vector of the original waves, there is sine wave cancellation. The wall effectively acts as a new source of sound.

Because the sound wave that was reflected has an extremely similar (for all practical purposes identical) wavelength as the original soundwaves that have not yet been deflected, they will cancel out. Waves cancellation causes a wave to break apart because crests combine with valleys.

And also, sound waves are not sine waves.
sine waves look like ..-''-..-''-.. and they are caused by perpetuating magnetic and electronic fields.
Sound waves are not electromagnetic waves, although they do fall under the same wave theory (i.e. of reflection, cancellation, etc.)

Sorry for the rant hah, just cant let people go thinking i dont know what im talking about because of soem smartass

EDIT: oh and the term you were trying to think of is destructive interference


I realised I still have my uni text book.
So here it is.

This quote is taken from The Acoustical Foundations of Music by Backus Page 48-49, DESTRUCTIVE INTERFERENCE.

A tuning fork provides a good example of destructing interference. The two prongs of the fork oscillate with the same frequency and amplitude, and so provice two identical sound sources. If the fork is sounded, put close to the ear, and rotated slowly about its handle, positions can be found for which no sound is heard. Since the fork is symmetrical about two axes, there must be four such positions.
In other words, the sound waves cancel out because they are the same frequency and amplitude. Also, the opposite can happen, called 'constructive interference'.

If two waves of the same frequency and amplitude proceed from two separate sources, there will be regions where the crests of one set of waves coincide with the other set, so the resulting amplitude will be twice that of either wave. Conversely, there will be other regions where the crests of one set fall on the troughs of the other, and the two will cancel. This is destructive interference.

And that's what I'm talking about. And the only reason I mentioned it was because the other dude said that when there is a lot of sound in one room, waves hiting other waves will cancel each other out, which is entirely not the case. I was just correcting him.

I am studying this shit at University, although I have a hard time understanding it at sometimes, some stuff gets through.

I realised I still have my uni text book.
So here it is.

This quote is taken from The Acoustical Foundations of Music by Backus Page 48-49, DESTRUCTIVE INTERFERENCE.


In other words, the sound waves cancel out because they are the same frequency and amplitude. Also, the opposite can happen, called 'constructive interference'.



And that's what I'm talking about. And the only reason I mentioned it was because the other dude said that when there is a lot of sound in one room, waves hiting other waves will cancel each other out, which is entirely not the case. I was just correcting him.

I am studying this shit at University, although I have a hard time understanding it at sometimes, some stuff gets through.
so um....where am i wrong?

Were did I say you were wrong?
I posted that to prove to you I knew what I was talking about, and that I knew I was right, because you seemed to think I wasn't.

Fenders are not bad guitars at all... they are just more designed for like punk music and that type where as gibson is more like crisp clean music... thats my opinion anyways... if your in a punk band then a fender strat is one of your best choices... if you play like santana or something get a gibson or the like

and I play an Ibanez electric acoustic which is very nice... a friend of mine has a Yamaha and it sounds pretty good too, he used to play a takamine and the difference is amazing

oh and buy elixir strings, I've never used or heard anything better and I know a lot of people that play... I prefer the extra lights, but thats on acoustic... if I had an electric I'd probably get mediums so I could play them a little heavier

Well, I am completely obsessed with Jimmy Page. He is my dad of guitar playing. He personally taught me everything. And Fenders are okay just depending on what sound you want. Gibsons are simply just thicker, beefier, heavier, better, meaner, prettier, and better. Old school Danelectros are cool too.

Ibanez all the way! :)

the best guitars out there are PRS, gibson of course(however not a fan of the neck), ibanez of course, rickenbacker, and gretsch. i would almost kill for a white falcon

I have a fender, I like playing it everynow and then. The strings keep snapping on it, so I got me a new one, here it is
It's an XCort 900, 24 frets, 6 string, floyd rose (licenced), EMG pickups, double locking tremolo system.
My only complaint is that from frets 17 up they're small, and playing fast and accurate is a challenge.

http://members.lycos.co.uk/revoke/images/YouthRock-2004/Youth5.JPG

I can't find a better pic
Except maybe this one:
http://members.lycos.co.uk/revoke/davesolo2.htm

It was taken last April, on the 9th (2003) in a competition called "YouthRock". It's a pretty big one, bands from all over NSW join in.
I had short hair then. We went in again this year.
Last year a shity hip-hop/rap band who stole the song 'eye of the tiger' won. This year a shitty all-girl punk (worse than blink 182) won.
I honestly have no idea how these shit bands get through.

PRS's used to be fantastic guitars for there price... the guitars they build now are nothing compared to what they used to make(pre 96 IIRC). They are not handbuilt anymore.
Gibson's are really over priced aswell.
Both are still great guitars mind you, just overpriced.

If you get the chance check out Heritage Guitars. Heritage Guitars was founded by a number of very talented Gibson Employees in the mid 1980's. When Gibson moved their guitar factory to Nashville Tennessee, a number of employees wanted to stay in Kalamazoo Michigan and continue to build quality, handmade guitars. Heritage Guitars was born!! Operations are still in the original Gibson Factory where Orville Gibson made his first guitars, Lloyd Loar developed the F Style Mandolin and L Series Guitars, Ted McCarty developed the infamous PAF pickups, and Rendal Wall developed the Heritage HRW pickup. I thought it was interesting.. (http://www.jhalemusic.com/Heritage%20Guitars/heritage_guitars_from_j_hale_mus.htm)
I had the chance to play a few Heritage H-150's at guitar show and holy crap are they nice. :biggrin:

nbw - i was actually at the PRS factory in maryland 2 years ago, it looks like alot of them actually are handmade. But maybe not the cheaper ones. The only guitars I saw being made were customs, like the paul mccartney custom model.

And, I can honestly say the best guitar I've ever played is a $1400 Musicman John Petrucci Custom. let me pull up a link... http://www.ernieball.com/mmonline/specs/instruments_jp6.html

they'll have one at your local Guitar Center, check it out seriously

nbw - i was actually at the PRS factory in maryland 2 years ago, it looks like alot of them actually are handmade. But maybe not the cheaper ones. The only guitars I saw being made were customs, like the paul mccartney custom model.

And, I can honestly say the best guitar I've ever played is a $1400 Musicman John Petrucci Custom. let me pull up a link... http://www.ernieball.com/mmonline/specs/instruments_jp6.html

they'll have one at your local Guitar Center, check it out seriously

played it meh just decent

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HA! and im Tom Morello

yngwie is such a ass

have you ever seen the mag interviews w/ him?

The man is a guitar genius, fuck his attitude

Yngwie Malmsteen - Black star
Yngwie Malmsteen - Far Beyond the Sun

He wrote the riffs for these songs when he was like 16. He uses a Fender Strat with DiMarzio pickups.

Anyone ever see that episode of "Big" or sumthing like that, where they make super-sized objects, one episode they made a giant electric guitar. heheh, it was cool. It was on the discovery channel. It was on this show: http://media.dsc.discovery.com/fansites/big/episode/episode.html